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Denzil2222

I am very angery at the things my children are being told by teachers about the economy in school, they are being told that teachers should be getting a pay rise not pay cuts, they are being told the economy is not all that bad, they are being told that its ok if somebody got a very high morgage during the boom and lose their job that all they have to do is "talk to the bank", they are being told if the banks were let fall back in september 08 that the eu would have "fixed them" in a few hours, they are being told that its only people that left school early that are jobless and that people who stayed in school and went to college are all fine.

Sea Sharp

Denzil2222 wrote: »

I am very angery at the things my children are being told by teachers about the economy in school, they are being told that teachers should be getting a pay rise not pay cuts, they are being told the economy is not all that bad, they are being told that its ok if somebody got a very high morgage during the boom and lose their job that all they have to do is "talk to the bank", they are being told if the banks were let fall back in september 08 that the eu would have "fixed them" in a few hours, they are being told that its only people that left school early that are jobless and that people who stayed in school and went to college are all fine.

They are being told that it's good practice to separate a paragraph into sentences.

ei.sdraob

Denzil2222 wrote: »

I am very angery at the things my children are being told by teachers about the economy in school, they are being told that teachers should be getting a pay rise not pay cuts

Ah sounds like the teachers are following the Catholic Church tactic of "get em young" :eek:

Denzil2222 wrote: »

they are being told the economy is not all that bad.

teachers are a overpaid, deluded and a protected section of our society
news at 11

Denzil2222 wrote: »

they are being told that its ok if somebody got a very high morgage during the boom and lose their job

its ok your children will be paying for the "boom" for a very long time to come, thats what you should really be angry about

Denzil2222 wrote: »

they are being told if the banks were let fall back in september 08 that the eu would have "fixed them" in a few hours, .

Anglo should have failed, and yes we need the EU to step in, FF are making a bigger mess as time goes by

Denzil2222 wrote: »

they are being told that its only people that left school early that are jobless and that people who stayed in school and went to college are all fine.

the unemployment rate among the higher educated is much less thank less educated, see CSO
alot of the unemployed came mostly from the now extinct construction sector

the same people who were laughing at engineers for staying in education claiming they can make more (and they did) as brickies

20Cent

If you want to bash teachers there is no need to make up stories about your kids just say it yourself plenty of people will join in. Otherwise post in one of the 50,000 other teacher bashing threads.

mikemac

When I went to school when dinosaurs roamed the earth I do remember similar talk

Back then there was some system, if the gardai or nurses got an increase then other sectors expected an increase. There was precedent over it.

I believe benchmarking did away with that system.

OP, maybe talk to the principal or better still the board of management.
I've no idea will anything be done but sure make your views heard

tara73

firstly, can't believe all the silly comments, think the op was genuinely asking for advice and she has a reasonable enough point.
it's a disgrace and almost criminal to tell schoolchildren lies like that!!

op, did you had a chat with other parents, probably there are some out there who are upset about the teachers as well. It's always better to find a group who is going to adress the issue with the principal/management of the school than doing it on your own.

dunsandin

Considering all the other guff that teachers shovel down our kids throats, this is probably just par for the course. (Irish, the "past", religion, a sense of isolation, catholic guilt, subservience, GAA worship and deference to our "betters" being just a few). I wouldn't worry about it, it will condition them nicely for when they are older and the politicians take over as the hand on the shovel.

The_Thing

20Cent wrote: »

If you want to bash teachers there is no need to make up stories about your kids just say it yourself plenty of people will join in. Otherwise post in one of the 50,000 other teacher bashing threads.

Couldn't agree more with you on that one, 20Cent.

Mackerel will bite at anything that is shiny - be it nourishing spratt or deadly hook, and people are no different, they will agree with all sorts of public sector bashing nonsense no matter how implausible because it feeds into their jaundiced mindset.

dunsandin

The_Thing wrote: »

Couldn't agree more with you on that one, 20Cent.

Mackerel will bite at anything that is shiny - be it nourishing spratt or deadly hook, and people are no different, they will agree with all sorts of public sector bashing nonsense no matter how implausible because it feeds into their jaundiced mindset.

Not a teacher by any chance, Mr Thing? Thanks for the mackerel reference, I'd hate it if you compared my jaundiced mindset to somthing bad, like a , damn, can't think of anything-should've paid more attention in school. Should've joined the public sector, you can be thick and still get on there.

orourkeda

Why are teachers even discussing their pay levels and economic matters with their students?

Shouldnt they be teaching important stuff like coordinate geometry of the line and irish poetry.

dan_d

When you say "children" what are you referring to?

Primary school kids? Do they even understand half of that?Other than things are bad due to "The Recession", as my 10 year old cousin likes to say - without knowing what it means.

Secondary school? Well, to be honest, you're going to find bitter teachers everywhere. I did my LC in 2001, when the ASTI were striking over - something or other...causing me to miss a substantial amount of class. And there were one or two teachers in there passing snide remarks on how little they got paid, and how hard their jobs were, etc, etc. By and large however, most of them just got on with it. Being the child of a teacher myself, I personally dealt with it by noting exactly how unprofessional these particular teachers were compared to those who gave us the extra classes during lunch hour or on Wednesday afternoons (half day) to make up for what we missed covering during the strike days, and lost any respect for them...and moved on.

I find it highly unlikely that every teacher your child has is making these comments. I would imagine, particularly in the case of secondary school kids, that it is only one or two. In which case I would have a quiet word with the principal, (and I'd do the same if it's primary), taking the approach that you'd prefer that these things aren't discussed in class because your child worries enough about things like losing your house, because of the recession - there's enough talk of it all over the news. If they're older secondary kids, I'd be taking the approach that this is not relevant to the class, particularly if it's an exam year, and could they have a word with the teacher in question.It's highly unprofessional, asides from anything else.It's irrelevant whether what they are saying is right or wrong - they just shouldn't be saying it.

RichardAnd

The OP proves that parents need to pay close attention to what their teachers tell them. Remember, just because a teacher has qualifications and experience doesn't mean they are decent tutors or even intelligent mature people. If ever I have children, I will pay very close attention to what they learn in school and I will be more than willing to re iterate or even rebuke a teacher's lesson if I find it to be false or misleading.