advice on exporting TO the UK

spray_ball

as it says on the title.... advice on exporting TO the UK... have had a trawl around the net and this forum but everything just seems to go on about importing from the UK :rolleyes:


I'm *thinking* of exporting a van TO the UK (if i can’t find what i want over here....no luck so far) basically I was hoping to fly in, pays me monies and drive back to bonny Scotland, get it MOT'd and UK reg - job done


So anyone done this/got any advice on doing this??

simple enough to register (or if I’m lucky re-register) it in the UK but I’m a bit confused with all this NCT/DOE/VRT etc....

came across this
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055797457&highlight=export

which answers my question about the VLC (I assume that's the registration slip??) but is there anything else I’d need to do??


(van will be around 5-10 years old .... when/if I find the right one)

(not a scam – genuine, serious question from a genuine (not so) serious guy)

Many thanks in advance

Kenny Logins

Have to ask. Why?

dhog4n

I don't know the details but I understand it is a lot less painful than the process here. If I remember correctly, there is a nominal admin fee once you can show the vehicle originated in the EU and is not a one-off or kitcar. If not, it will need to undergo a SVA (single vehicle approval) test before being registered. The SVA is about ensuring the vehicle complies with UK rules and regs, not fleecing you. Vehicles from outside the EU will have a customs charge and VAT applied, but that's irrelevant to an Irish car.

You should be able to find details on the citizens information sites in the uk or through the consumer association/authority/whatever they are called there.

spray_ball

dhog4n wrote: »

I don't know the details but I understand it is.....

Thanks I think i'm aware off all the hoops I have to jump through in the UK (well I hope I am... should be even easier if it was originally registered in the UK before heading over to Ireland)...

just not sure if there's anything i need to do before I get the vehicle to the UK.

I get the feeling it is just a case of taking the vehicle out of Ireland and register it in the UK (the DVLA will notify the authorities in Ireland that it's been exported - as i understand it)

Have to ask. Why?

why not??? loads of people import from the UK - I'm just doing the opposite ......anyway makes sense to me – your roads aren’t heavily covered with salt every time there’s a *chance* of a frost (so hopefully less rust/corrosion?), the exchange rate isn’t too bad so prices are slightly cheaper......... but the main (and really only reason) is because I can't find what I want over here!!!

Kenny Logins

spray_ball wrote: »

why not??? loads of people import from the UK - I'm just doing the opposite ......anyway makes sense to me – your roads aren’t heavily covered with salt every time there’s a *chance* of a frost (so hopefully less rust/corrosion?), the exchange rate isn’t too bad so prices are slightly cheaper......... but the main (and really only reason) is because I can't find what I want over here!!!

Fair enough, all good reasons. I just assumed you'd have a better selection, and for less money in UK.

R.O.R

You may need to get hold of a certificate of conformity for the vehicle, and fill out the most detailed form I've ever seen. Doesn't help when the Certificate of Conformity you are taking info from is in German, and Nein Sprachen ze Deutsche.

We were about to do this with a Passat earlier this year to NI, but didn't need to in the end.

Certificate of Conformity is usally obtained (for a small fee) either from the supplying dealer (if they are still in business) or the vehicle importer.

Out of interest - what are you hoping to find over here that isn't available in the UK?

spray_ball

R.O.R wrote: »

Out of interest - what are you hoping to find over here that isn't available in the UK?

[looks over shoulder] shhhhhh.... tis a VW transporter lwb syncro [/looks over shoulder] quite a lot of swb syncros over here but the lwb version is fairly rare...... the *ahem* Irish version(s) i've seen are a bit more basic than the UK counterparts... but i'm in scotland so aircon (Et. Al.) isn't really a requirement anyway.

spray_ball

Right it’s taken a while but might have finally found one worth my while...(as you can tell from the age of the thread I’ve been in no real hurry!)

... but I’m now having trouble finding an insurance company in the UK who will insure me whilst I’m actually collecting the vehicle... they seem happy enough to insure me once the vehicle is in the UK but not whilst I’m in Southern Ireland.

so I’m thinking of trying to get temporary cover (24hrs or less) through an Irish firm that will cover me for an Irish reg vehicle whilst I’m driving on your roads (or as I understand it 'pot hole bingo')... but it will have to be against a non Irish address. Once I’m in the UK my *other* insurance will kick in and I can carry on my merry way


I've had a trawl around Irish insurance companies but can't see anything about non resident car insurance...

so I thought I’d ask here first to see if anyone has had any experience of this (relatives... visitors Etc) before I start the expensive business of phoning round....

any recommendations on insurers to try???

and paying a company to ship it to England or the docks is just a waste of money imho... and paying someone to drive it for me whilst in Ireland just adds to the complexity (what do you guys do regarding insurance when bringing cars back from the UK??)

delly

My insurance company just did a temporary change to a UK plate when I was over there a while back, no issues at all.

CiniO

spray_ball wrote: »

Right it’s taken a while but might have finally found one worth my while...(as you can tell from the age of the thread I’ve been in no real hurry!)

... but I’m now having trouble finding an insurance company in the UK who will insure me whilst I’m actually collecting the vehicle... they seem happy enough to insure me once the vehicle is in the UK but not whilst I’m in Southern Ireland.

so I’m thinking of trying to get temporary cover (24hrs or less) through an Irish firm that will cover me for an Irish reg vehicle whilst I’m driving on your roads (or as I understand it 'pot hole bingo')... but it will have to be against a non Irish address. Once I’m in the UK my *other* insurance will kick in and I can carry on my merry way


I've had a trawl around Irish insurance companies but can't see anything about non resident car insurance...

so I thought I’d ask here first to see if anyone has had any experience of this (relatives... visitors Etc) before I start the expensive business of phoning round....

any recommendations on insurers to try???

and paying a company to ship it to England or the docks is just a waste of money imho... and paying someone to drive it for me whilst in Ireland just adds to the complexity (what do you guys do regarding insurance when bringing cars back from the UK??)

You were probably talking to someone incompetent from your insurance company.
They can't say your cover is valid in UK and not valid in Ireland.
If they agree to insure you on Irish plates (and that's what I understood from your post), then you are insured whether you are in UK, Ireland, Portugal or Finland.

This applies to third party cover, but that's actually all you need to be road legal.
They can make limitations about fire, theft and comprehensive insurance, but your third party will be valid all over Europe.


PS. You won't find any insurance company in Ireland which would insure you short term, and even more you won't find any insurance company which would insure non-Irish resident. So forget about this option.
Call again to your insurance company, and ask to talk to someone more competent.
Validity of third party insurance all over Europe is required by law in every EU country.

So if they only agree to insure you on Irish plates, you are OK to drive your van.

spray_ball

CiniO wrote: »

So if they only agree to insure you on Irish plates, you are OK to drive your van.

sorry should've been a bit clearer - they'll insure me on the VIN number only... and only if the van is in the UK!!! ... but they won't insure me in Ireland on the VIN.

have tried a few places over here and they all seem to say the same (or no VIN insurance full stop)

CiniO wrote: »

PS. You won't find any insurance company in Ireland which would insure you short term, and even more you won't find any insurance company which would insure non-Irish resident. So forget about this option.
.

Many thanks for that - thought i was being a bit (read VERY) hopeful on that long shot.... hence my post:(

CiniO

spray_ball wrote: »

sorry should've been a bit clearer - they'll insure me on the VIN number only... and only if the van is in the UK!!! ... but they won't insure me in Ireland on the VIN.

have tried a few places over here and they all seem to say the same (or no VIN insurance full stop)

Seems that's true.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/145

Subject to subsection (4) below, the policy—

(a)must insure such person, persons or classes of persons as may be specified in the policy in respect of any liability which may be incurred by him or them in respect of the death of or bodily injury to any person or damage to property caused by, or arising out of, the use of the vehicle on a road [F1or other public place] in Great Britain, and

[F2(aa)must, in the case of a vehicle normally based in the territory of another member State, insure him or them in respect of any civil liability which may be incurred by him or them as a result of an event related to the use of the vehicle in Great Britain if,—

(i)according to the law of that territory, he or they would be required to be insured in respect of a civil liability which would arise under that law as a result of that event if the place where the vehicle was used when the event occurred were in that territory, and

(ii)the cover required by that law would be higher than that required by paragraph (a) above, and]

It looks like that UK policies issued for foreign cars are only valid in UK.

In this case you can't really do anything.
Maybe just ask the seller to drive to the border, and you will drive it further.