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Smoking

  • 15-09-2010 10:50pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭


    What percentage of smokers really get cancer because of smoking?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    You should probably ask a scientist....not this bunch...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    Denzil2222 wrote: »
    What percentage of smokers really get cancer because of smoking?

    This is after hours...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    every single one of them,including everyone they have ever smoked around,unless they smoke in a place where one wall has been taken down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i dont know,*cough*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭Denzil2222


    You know whats its like when you give out to a teenager for smoking and they can name lots of people over the age of 80 who have smoked all their lifes but are in perfect health


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭Quandary


    Denzil2222 wrote: »
    What percentage of smokers really get cancer because of smoking?

    This might help a bit - interesting enough read.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-some-smokers-get-lung


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Denzil2222 wrote: »
    You know whats its like when you give out to a teenager for smoking and they can name lots of people over the age of 80 who have smoked all their lifes but are in perfect health

    That's what happens when you try to score in a smoking area on Junior Cert night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    6


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    flyton5 wrote: »
    You should probably ask a scientist....not this bunch...
    All of them

    >_>

    <_<

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Denzil2222 wrote: »
    You know whats its like when you give out to a teenager for smoking
    No.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 575 ✭✭✭RockinRolla


    It's better to smoke and fly than drink and drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Sticky_Fingers


    Denzil2222 wrote: »
    What percentage of smokers really get cancer because of smoking?
    Pfft smoking doesn't cause cancer OP, its only effect is to give you that air of fifties cool daddio.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    what % of smokers smoke or 'smoke'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I dunno about the cancer thing but it doesn't take a scientist to know they fùck with your health.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭x in the city


    65.782%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    What % of smokers get knocked down by buses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    While cancer is higher in smokers, it's impossible to tell in individual cases whether the cancer is due to the smoking or whether they would have gotten cancer anyway (plenty of people who haven't touched a cigarete in their lives get cancer). An easier to answer question would be "what percentage of smokers get cancer" (but of course then we need to know the total number of smokers, which is hard to estimate). That question might be better off asked in the Health Sciences forum.

    EDIT: A quick pubmed search shows that 50% lung cancer patients are smokers at the time of their diagnosis, and 83% of those continue smoking after diagnosis. source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭dazftw


    How long is a piece of string

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭30H!3


    Smoking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    What % of ex-smokers die from being punched in the face for being arseholes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Piste wrote: »
    While cancer is higher in smokers, it's impossible to tell in individual cases whether the cancer is due to the smoking or whether they would have gotten cancer anyway (plenty of people who haven't touched a cigarete in their lives get cancer). An easier to answer question would be "what percentage of smokers get cancer" (but of course then we need to know the total number of smokers, which is hard to estimate). That question might be better off asked in the Health Sciences forum.

    EDIT: A quick pubmed search shows that 50% lung cancer patients are smokers at the time of their diagnosis, and 83% of those continue smoking after diagnosis. source

    50/50 for lung cancer in terms of smokers v non-smokers? That's pretty surprising. I would have thought it would be at least slightly higher for smokers. Any numbers for throat and mouth cancer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    In the United States, smoking is estimated to account for 87% of lung cancer cases (90% in men and 85% in women).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_cancer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    FACT: 100% of smokers die.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    FACT: 100% of smokers die.

    100% of non-smokers die also...

    Can we therefore rule out smoking as a pre-requisite for death?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    What percentage of Smoking threads are started by Non Smokers!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Cigarette smoking and exposure to tobacco smoke cause an estimated average of 438,000 premature deaths each year in the United States. Of these premature deaths, about 40 percent are from cancer, 35 percent are from heart disease and stroke, and 25 percent are from lung disease.

    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Tobacco/cessation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    Piste wrote: »
    While cancer is higher in smokers, it's impossible to tell in individual cases whether the cancer is due to the smoking or whether they would have gotten cancer anyway (plenty of people who haven't touched a cigarete in their lives get cancer)

    When it comes to lung cancer (which is what most people erroneously think of when it comes to smoking-related cancers), the vast majority are caused by smoking. Quite few people who have never touched a cigarette in their lives (or at least, who have not been substantially exposed to cigarette smoke) get lung cancer.
    Strobe wrote: »
    50/50 for lung cancer in terms of smokers v non-smokers? That's pretty surprising. I would have thought it would be at least slightly higher for smokers. Any numbers for throat and mouth cancer

    The abstract doesnt say that; it says that 50% of lung cancer patients are current smokers at the time of diagnosis. Big difference, there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    What % of tobacco chewers get tooth cancer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    biko wrote: »
    Cigarette smoking and exposure to tobacco smoke cause an estimated average of 438,000 premature deaths each year in the United States. Of these premature deaths, about 40 percent are from cancer, 35 percent are from heart disease and stroke, and 25 percent are from lung disease.

    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Tobacco/cessation

    Yeah, but you have to add in the fact that most Americans are fat bastards anyway. :D


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