Turbo covered by engine only warrenty??

Skuxx

I bought a '01 Golf about a month ago and while I was driving it yesterday I lost all turbo power once I reached about 85mph! After looking on the internet this seems to be a thing called limp mode which is designed to protect the turbo if it overboosts!
Anyway I got a 3 month engine warrenty with the car from the dealer so should this be covered??
I'm going to go talk to him tomorrow anyway but I'd like to know if I have some thing to go on, incase he turns around and just says no its not his problem!!

Divorce Referendum

Just as well you lost turbo power at that speed.:cool:

thenightrider

It depends on were the turbo is on the car.

Some turbo's arpart of the engine and others are part of the exhaust.

If your turbo is part of the engine then it should be coverd.

kildare.17hmr

Eghaust, i wouldnt cover it anyway and i wouldnt tell the lad what you said in your first post because it sounds like you were drivin the sh!t out of it in which case he'll prob tell you where to go

Skuxx

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Eghaust, i wouldnt cover it anyway and i wouldnt tell the lad what you said in your first post because it sounds like you were drivin the sh!t out of it in which case he'll prob tell you where to go

I wouldn't call that driving the sh!t out of any car! Volkswagens are built in Germany where they are well capable of driving at over 100mph on the Autobann!

ottostreet

alan1990 wrote: »

I wouldn't call that driving the sh!t out of any car! Volkswagens are built in Germany where they are well capable of driving at over 100mph on the Autobann!

yes, but we're not in germany.

kildare.17hmr

alan1990 wrote: »

I lost all turbo power once I reached about 85mph

that sounds like you planted the foot all the way up through the gears and it went pear shaped at about 85mph

alan1990 wrote: »

I wouldn't call that driving the sh!t out of any car! Volkswagens are built in Germany where they are well capable of driving at over 100mph on the Autobann!

I think you took me up wrong, thats what it'll sound like to the guy who sold you the car, if it was me id tell ya where to go and just because its capable of doing something doesnt mean you sould

peasant

My opinion:

You bought a Golf turbo and not a standard Golf ...ergo the turbo is part of your particular engine (btw, to my knowledge the turbo is never inside the engine, but alwys in the exhaust, near the engine)

Secondly, putting your foot down and slightly exceeding the speed limit (but not the design limits) does not harm a functioning turbo ...that's what it's built for. Yours is obviously faulty.

Personally I would not be prepared to be fobbed off by the dealer on these issues.

Skuxx

ottostreet wrote: »

yes, but we're not in germany.

I don't remember saying we were!!

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

that sounds like you planted the foot all the way up through the gears and it went pear shaped at about 85mph

Might sound like that but thats not the case! I was talking to a lad in work about it today and his Passat used to do it at 65mph! Its a problem with the turbo, nothing to do with driving the ring out of it up through the gears!

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

I think you took me up wrong, thats what it'll sound like to the guy who sold you the car, if it was me id tell ya where to go and just because its capable of doing something doesnt mean you sould

I know and I usually wouldn't! But I only got the car and I never got the chance to take it for a proper good run since getting it! It wouldn't bother me because I wouldn't be driving at 85mph but since I was talking to a lad who's used to go at 65 I want to get it sorted incase it gets worse!

kildare.17hmr

peasant wrote: »

My opinion:

You bought a Golf turbo and not a standard Golf ...ergo the turbo is part of your particular engine (btw, to my knowledge the turbo is never inside the engine, but alwys in the exhaust, near the engine)

Secondly, putting your foot down and slightly exceeding the speed limit (but not the design limits) does not harm a functioning turbo ...that's what it's built for. Yours is obviously faulty.

Personally I would not be prepared to be fobbed off by the dealer on these issues.

but i think your missing the point peasant, he got and obviously agreed to engine only warranty. the dealer has no obligation to replace or repair the turbo as its not part of the engine.

EDIT: iv had this come up a few time with DPF when iv givin engine and gearbox warranty, as its part of the eghaust its not covered

Slidey

thenightrider wrote: »

It depends on were the turbo is on the car.

Some turbo's arpart of the engine and others are part of the exhaust.

If your turbo is part of the engine then it should be coverd.

Really?

I think I better do my apprenticeship all over again. I must have missed this the day I was off

Skuxx

peasant wrote: »

My opinion:

You bought a Golf turbo and not a standard Golf ...ergo the turbo is part of your particular engine (btw, to my knowledge the turbo is never inside the engine, but alwys in the exhaust, near the engine)

Secondly, putting your foot down and slightly exceeding the speed limit (but not the design limits) does not harm a functioning turbo ...that's what it's built for. Yours is obviously faulty.

Personally I would not be prepared to be fobbed off by the dealer on these issues.

Finally someone thinking along the same lines as meself!!

peasant

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

but i think your missing the point peasant, he got and obviously agreed to engine only warranty. the dealer has no obligation to replace or repair the turbo as its not part of the engine.

On a turbo engine the turbo is part of the engine ...imo, anyway
ECU settings, timing, etc are all set to include the working turbo. Turbo no worky - engine no worky

Different story if the clutch or gearbox were failing, they're definitely not part of the engine

Slidey

IMO it is part of the engine.

What exhaust gets an oil supply?

kildare.17hmr

peasant wrote: »

On a turbo engine the turbo is part of the engine ...imo, anyway
ECU settings, timing, etc are all set to include the working turbo. Turbo no worky - engine no worky

In an ideal world! but no turbo is a part of the eghaust and i wouldnt cover it.

OP if the car is going into limp mode the engine managment light should be comming on, which would be covered, in which case id go back with that problem and see what they diagnose the problem as.

kildare.17hmr

Slidey wrote: »

IMO it is part of the engine.

What exhaust gets an oil supply?

The turbo part of exhausts on turbo charged cars

peasant

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

The turbo part of exhausts

Oh great ...anyone can go and order an exhaust with turbo then on their next visit to Kwik-Fit ...breathe a bit of life into their non-turbo car ? :D:D

kildare.17hmr

peasant wrote: »

Oh great ...anyone can go and order an exhaust with turbo then on their next visit to Kwik-Fit ...breathe a bit of life into their non-turbo car ? :D:D

edited so smart arse:p

Big Nasty

And don't say you were doing 85 when you tell the dealer because even if you were not ringing it he will think / say you were.

By the way it's EXHAUST! :pac:

EDIT: way too late being a smart arse!

shamwari

I think there seems to be a lot of conclusion jumping here. This fault is not necessarily the turbo, and there are a number of components which could cause these symptoms if they go faulty. You need a proper diagnostic scan on the car, to read what codes (if any) are there.

Also the overboost fault only affects those cars fitted with a VGT.

ltdslipdiff

A turbo runs off exhaust gasses, therefore its outside the engine, ALWAYS. What mileage is on the car? Is it a TDi? BEFORE you go in all guns blazing, ask the dealer you bought it from to give you a list of items covered by the Warranty, a turbo could be interpreted as a wear and tear item by one delaer and an essential engine part by another. Get more info!!!

ShadowHearth

thenightrider wrote: »

It depends on were the turbo is on the car.

Some turbo's arpart of the engine and others are part of the exhaust.

If your turbo is part of the engine then it should be coverd.

lol what?

that is actually funny