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Ireland needs a Judge Andrew Blake

  • 15-09-2010 11:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭


    This is how to treat anti social behaviour

    http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1316005_rangers_fans_jailed_after_manchester_uefa_cup_final_riot?rss=yes&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+menews%2Fnews+%28News+-+Manchester+Evening+News+-+RSS+Feed%29

    If every Judge handed sentences like these people might start to think before they acted

    Scott McSeveney, 22, of Lanarkshire, was found guilty of violent disorder and causing actual bodily harm to Pc John Goodwin, who was attacked by a mob and was saved by a female Rangers' fan, Sharon Gibson, who threw herself on top of him.

    McSeveney was ordered to serve three-and-a-half years in jail, with a football banning order of eight years.

    Mark Stoddart, 26, of Glasgow, was part of a baying mob who attacked Pc Mick Regan. He pleaded guilty to two counts of violent disorder and assault causing actual bodily harm and was ordered to serve two-and-a-half years behind bars with an eight-year football banning order.

    John Saunders, 32, of Glasgow, who threw missiles, charged at police officers and attacked a police van pleaded guilty to two offences of violent disorder, was given a 15-month sentence and a football banning order of six years.

    Gordon Forrest, 36, of Glasgow, was jailed for 14 months and given a football banning order for six years. He incited others to violence and kicked a police officer's shield and a punched a coach.

    Thomas Murphy, 28, of Greenock, admitted two offences of violent disorder after throwing items towards lines of police. He was jailed for 14 months and given a six-year football banning order.

    Brian McVicar, 23, of East Kilbride, who admitted violent disorder, threw bottles and urged rioters on. The 20-year-old was given 21 months in a young offenders' institution and a six year banning order.

    McVicar's brother-in-law, Greg McKenna, 23, East Kilbride, also threw a bottle and was jailed for 18 months, with a banning order of six years, after being found guilty of violent disorder.

    David McCullogh, 21, of Moorcroft Drive, Burnage, Manchester, joined the violence on his way home from work by throwing a bottle, and handed himself in after seeing his picture in the MEN. He was jailed for six months and handed a six-year banning order.


    Michael Hindle, 22, a Blackburn Rovers fan from Leyland who has previously been subject to a football banning order, threw a bottle at a line of officers and was jailed for eight months with a six-year football banning order after admitting violent disorder.

    William McSporran, 18, of Glasgow, was just 15 when he threw bottles at police and urged on the violent crowd. The teenager, who has a previous conviction for taking a knife to an Orange Order march, was given 12 months in a young offenders' institution and a six-year football banning order after admitting violent disorder.

    James Bell, 43, of Glasgow, threw missiles at police after being knocked over by an officer. He was jailed for 12 months plus a six-year football banning order after admitting violent disorder.

    David Annette, a 35-year-old prison officer and Rangers fan from Chorley, Lancashire, threw three bottles at police, but was spared jail after admitting violent disorder. He was given a six-month prison sentence suspended for a year, plus 180 hours unpaid work and ordered to pay £500 costs.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Johnny Bitte


    Thats great. But what will they actually server. And even then there's the chance that when the look a the prison they are to be sent to and there is no room from they be given suspended sentences.

    Actions like need to have the facilities and will to back them up. Of which Ireland has neither.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Aahm a billie, he's a taaim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭whatnext


    Thats great. But what will they actually server. And even then there's the chance that when the look a the prison they are to be sent to and there is no room from they be given suspended sentences.

    Actions like need to have the facilities and will to back them up. Of which Ireland has neither.

    I totally appreciate what you are saying, but when I read the article and discussed it with some friends we all agreed that they would probably do no time if it were in Ireland, and that it would be more likely that the cop that nocked one of the rioters over would propably be the mose severly punished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Ireland needs Judge Judy. She takes no sh!t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Judge Judy's a cúnt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭clived2


    whatnext wrote: »
    This is how to treat anti social behaviour








    John Saunders, 32, of Glasgow, who threw missiles, charged at police officers and attacked a police van pleaded guilty to two offences of violent disorder, was given a 15-month sentence and a football banning order of six years.



    McVicar's brother-in-law, Greg McKenna, 23, East Kilbride, also threw a bottle and was jailed for 18 months, with a banning order of six years, after being found guilty of violent disorder.

    David McCullogh, 21, of Moorcroft Drive, Burnage, Manchester, joined the violence on his way home from work by throwing a bottle, and handed himself in after seeing his picture in the MEN. He was jailed for six months and handed a six-year banning order.




    David Annette, a 35-year-old prison officer and Rangers fan from Chorley, Lancashire, threw three bottles at police, but was spared jail after admitting violent disorder. He was given a six-month prison sentence suspended for a year, plus 180 hours unpaid work and ordered to pay £500 costs.


    I highlighted in bold parts, the action of any judge, biased, corrupt etc

    So does he seem fair to you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    The former governer of The Joy was on Pat Kenny this morning and he maintained that the majority of inmates came from badly planned and managed housing policies.
    He more or less said that he could foretell the life pattern of children born in the Coombe, Holles St. the Rotunda etc. by the addresses on their birth certs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Thats well known - post code criminality is an undersrtood part of the system in countries that have post codes. You can pretty much throw a banket over certain areas who's residents account for 80-90% of all arrestable crimes. The interesting bit is that the state perfectly knows this and yet continually fails to intervene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    Ahhhhhh yes. A stricter judge is what we need.

    "I'm going to impose the maximum sentence that my powers allow on you for this most heinous crime. Premeditated murder nonetheless. But what with the prison overcrowding and time off for good behaviour, better factor in time served....erm....ok you can go home."


    Sort out the legislation first. Maybe build a few prisons...although we'd need money for that...hmmmmm. I give up.


    /gets coat


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