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Non payment from employer

  • 14-09-2010 11:20am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi

    I work for quite a large european company who are based in mainland europe. But just recently we have found out that they have not been paying the payroll company here in Ireland. Due to this they have informed us (the payroll company that is) that they will not be processing our wages, and we will not be getting paid until their invoices for services have been paid. Fair enough i guess.

    But now this leavs me in a tricky situation. If the company i work for, do not pay me on time. What are my rights? Can i refund to go in to work untill i get paid. As it is said our wages will probably be at least 2 weeks short. Possibly have to wait until the following month and get double paid. This would obviously mean less money to me as i will be taxed at a much higher rate.

    My other main concern, is that my rent, phone and all utilities are due out of my account a few days after i get paid. If i am paid a few weeks late this puts me in a bit of a stick situation, last thing i want is hassle from these companies looking for money i dont have. Unfortunately, almost all of these are set up with direct debit, and i am to believe that if a direct debit bounces i will be charged for it, and each subsequent time there after.

    As you can imagine, im a little stressed at this point :o

    I've had a look online for some reference to what im going through, but can not seem to find anything from this country in terms of what my rights are. Would any of you kind people be able to shed some light on this situation, or even be able to provide some links that i can peruse?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    If you are an employee then it is not your problem when or even if your employer gets paid by it's customer or not.

    If you are a member of a union then contact them straight away. Also, contact your HR department and discuss it with them. Don't argue, simply inquire.

    NERA might be helpful as well. http://www.employmentrights.ie/en/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Thanks for the reply :), but im not sure if you got me. I'm the emloyee. Its the employer who has not paid their payroll company, hence us not getting paid. Unfortunately, none of us are in a union. And to be honest, never really had much time for them in the last 10 years due to the lack of power or weight they can throw about.

    Ive just had a look at the payment of wages act 1991, and there seems to be nothing in there about a employer not paying wages on time. I really would have thought there would have been some legalization surrounding this whole area. Also, its very much out dated, still showing the pound sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    I did understand you the first time.

    The payroll company not being paid by your employer should not be your problem. Did they tell you why they haven't been paid and when they will have this situation resolved?

    Your best options are to contact your HR department or NERA. Or both.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭D.McC


    I think you should read the Payment of Wages Act again and / or contact NERA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    The payroll company responsible and that is not getting ther invoices paid by your employer for their services, should not and cannot hold you or other employees of that company to ransom. Unfortunately they can do, as they have done in this instance, refuse to process any more work on behalf of your employer, as such leaving you as the employee at a loss through no fault of your own.
    If you have a HR department, they should make it their business to make sure your wages are paid on time regardless. If you have no HR dept then you'll need to push your employer directly.
    Unions are a waste of time as are Nera or any other suchlike, complete and utter waste of time.
    Best suggestion I'd make, in the first instance have all staff effected approach your HR to have them take hold of the issue and deal with it, making sure you are all paid on time. If no HR exist in Ireland for your company then look to approach via phone and email, your company HQ directly about it all. Be nice, be polite, be professional but be firm and straight to the point.
    If your company resolves the matter, follow up afterwards thanking them and kindly request also that they look to use a different payroll service or alternative arrangement in the future for their Irish staff.
    I've seen this happen before myself and it's either an error, your payroll service company overcharging and as such then your employer being in dispute over same with them or the payroll company raising their service charges again with your employer being in dispute over same. That or your employer being refused credit to pay wages or going through a short-term liquidity issue with funds to pay wages/suppliers. I think I know who you work for and I don't see them going out of business so just hope it's an error somewhere down the line :) Best of luck either way !


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