gardai stopped by african mob in paris,cunning asylum deportee returns to eire

moonpurple

1. how much will it cost us to charter a plane to congo?

2. will the garda have to pay gifts to get the congo airport people to accept delivery of this skillful man

3. could this money be taken from our africa aid budget?

4. am I racist for posting this thread?

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/congolese-man-starts-plane-riot-to-avoid-deportation-2333761.html

By Tom Brady Security Editor
Saturday September 11 2010
A Congolese asylum seeker, who was being deported from Dublin to Kinshasa, created a riot on a plane in Paris and had to be escorted back here.

Three members of the Garda National Immigration Bureau accompanied the 44-year-old man on a 6.40am flight from Dublin to Paris on Thursday.

When they arrived at Charles de Gaulle Airport, the four transferred to a flight from Paris to Kinshasa, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Congo. However, the man began to incite other passengers and some of them started to abuse and spit at the three gardai.

Gardai alerted the French authorities, who sent riot police on to the plane and removed the Congolese man from the flight.

Last night the asylum seeker was back in Wheatfield Prison where he had been held, prior to his deportation attempt.

He has been in this country for the past seven years and is understood to have criminal convictions for shoplifting and public order offences. It is now likely that he will be deported on a specially chartered flight.

Most deportations are now carried out on charter flights with the costs shared by EU member states.

In the past year, the deportation rate for failed asylum seekers has almost doubled, resulting in a total of 236 being sent back to their home countries, compared with 129 the previous year.

- Tom Brady Security Editor

rugbyman

I cannot answer questions 1 and 2.

q 3, i hope it is

q4, def not !

Rugbyman

RoundyMooney

moonpurple wrote: »

1. how much will it cost us to charter a plane to congo?

Cannot predict now.

moonpurple wrote: »

2. will the garda have to pay gifts to get the congo airport people to accept delivery of this skillful man

Without a doubt.

moonpurple wrote: »

3. could this money be taken from our africa aid budget?

Outlook not so good.

moonpurple wrote: »

4. am I racist for posting this thread?

My reply is no.

Sorry, I just borrowed the 8 ball that seems to be used to formulate irish immigration policy. Works quite well...

Why does the plane have to land?

Give him a parachute, overfly the Congo border, and f*ck him out the back.

ilovelamp2000

This is my favourite asylum story from this week:

A CHINESE national who sought refugee status in Ireland after claiming to be a persecuted Christian has been described by a judge as "audacious" in his claims.

Mr Justice Brian McGovern said the asylum seeker, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had ultimately admitted he knew nothing about Jesus, the name of Jesus's mother, or where he had been born.

In a statutory questionnaire, he had been unable to state how or where Jesus had died, what miracles he had performed, or anything about the Bible or gospels.

Mr Justice McGovern told Anthony Moore, counsel for the Refugee Appeals Tribunal, that the applicant for asylum had been unable to demonstrate how to bless himself or say the Lord's Prayer, yet he had claimed to have been a Christian in his home country.

The applicant said he had attended "home churches", one of which he had escaped from when Chinese police had raided it and made arrests.

Refusing the 31-year-old chef leave to judicially challenge the tribunal's refusal to grant him asylum, Mr Justice McGovern said the application was devoid of substantial merit.

"The credibility issues are very significant in this case, and his application for refugee status was somewhat audacious to say the least," the judge said.

Jonathan Kilfeather, who appeared with barrister Karl Monahan for the Chinese national, earlier told the court the applicant had left school when he was 14. He had fled his homeland for fear of state persecution because of his Christian beliefs.

Mr Justice McGovern is one of a number of judges sitting during the High Court holidays in an attempt to deal with a backlog of asylum applications.

He awarded legal costs against the Chinese national.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0908/1224278450331.html

ScissorPaperRock

moonpurple wrote: »

3. could this money be taken from our africa aid budget?

Why would it be? This is in no way related to aid in Africa!

lynski

send him back the way he came - boat, whatever!
Seriously, why cant they just bind and gag him hannibal lector style for next trip? he is obviously a danger if he can speak so they can justify it. or sedate him?
Of just book out 2 rows at the back of the airplane to keep him away from the other passengers, has to be cheaper then the charter option.
1. how much will it cost us to charter a plane to congo? we should not have to do that.

2. will the garda have to pay gifts to get the congo airport people to accept delivery of this skillful man. they should just release him into their tender mercies.

3. could this money be taken from our africa aid budget? unlikely

4. am I racist for posting this thread? no

moonpurple

Rosco1982 wrote: »

This is my favourite asylum story from this week:



http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0908/1224278450331.html

how much in legal aid would this have cost us?
barrister and solicitor both sides of this man's audacity, the loveable rogue
1000-3000 euros
3000-6000 euros
6000-9000 euros

ilovelamp2000

moonpurple wrote: »

how much in legal aid would this have cost us?
barrister and solicitor both sides of this man's audacity, the loveable rogue
1000-3000 euros
3000-6000 euros
6000-9000 euros

Nothing. Costs were awarded against him according to the article.

changes

He should be woken every half hour and fed min sustenance till his next flight to congo accompanied by armed officers. The country can't afford this sort of carry on.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'd love to be given a free hand in escorting a prick like that back to The Congo, its hard to spit & drool at the same time.

AckwelFoley

Id post him home.

arybvtcw0eolkf

'Bring out the Gimp'.

Bazzy

Who'll drive his taxi when they finally get rid of him?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Bazzy wrote: »

Who'll drive his taxi when they finally get rid of him?

lol, thats hilarious because I've just been talking to someone who was out with me last night.

We were saying the Dublin city centre was like Lagos last night!.

CarrickMcJoe

At least the chartered plane would be full of guards, let him try to spit then.
They can blame the bruising on bad turbulance:D

mikom

moonpurple wrote: »

1. how much will it cost us to charter a plane to congo?

Way down deep in the middle of the Congo,
A hippo took an apricot, a guava and a mango.
He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango.
The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo"
Um Bongo, Um Bongo, They drink it in the Congo.

That's all the cunt deserves tbh.

RoundyMooney

Wonder what he said to de brudders to cause such a turn of events?

fonecrusher1

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Wonder what he said to de brudders to cause such a turn of events?

"This guy eats da poo poo"!! ????

CarrickMcJoe

Told them that the guards were trying to get into Congo illegally:D

Dionysus

Rosco1982 wrote: »

Nothing. Costs were awarded against him according to the article.

It is highly unlikely (to understate things) that the aforesaid asylum seeker has the finances to pay these costs.

In this most likely of events, who will then have to pay the costs of his action (and all attendant costs)?

Let me guess: the Irish taxpayer? (or will our wig-wearing barristers with affected accents accept their loses and refuse to be bailed-out by this republic?)

Son Of A Vidic

If the roles were reversed and an Irishman was being deported by Congolese police? He'd probably get a bullet in the back of the head, if he behaved the same way.

ilovelamp2000

Dionysus wrote: »

It is highly unlikely (to understate things) that the aforesaid asylum seeker has the finances to pay these costs.

In this most likely of events, who will then have to pay the costs of his action (and all attendant costs)?

Let me guess: the Irish taxpayer? (or will our wig-wearing barristers with affected accents accept their loses and refuse to be bailed-out by this republic?)

Well I think it's clear from the article that he was working here, maybe he does have money.

R P McMurphy

I wonder did the French police arrest the spitters.

Andy-Pandy

The cops should have given him some Um Bongo, i hear they drink it in the Congo.

moonpurple

Rosco1982 wrote: »

Nothing. Costs were awarded against him according to the article.

the irish taxpay paid for all fees

the sol and barr for him and for the state
legal aid fees for him

I would expect it cost you around 10,000 euros as preliminary mentions in the high court before hearing will be billed as a day in court:eek:

ilovelamp2000

moonpurple wrote: »

the irish taxpay paid for all fees

the sol and barr for him and for the state
legal aid fees for him

I would expect it cost you around 10,000 euros as preliminary mentions in the high court before hearing will be billed as a day in court:eek:

I'll bet a penny to a pound he wasn't legally aided for the JR.

If he was he would have been represented by the Refugee Legal Service and they don't take on many JR cases and they would not have taken this joker on.

I'll bet he went to a private solicitor who either was put in funds or took a chance on the case hoping that the state would end up footing the bill when it succeeded. If he didn't put his solicitor in funds, that solicitor will be out of pocket.

The state will naturally have to cover the cost of their representation if they can't reclaim the money from failed applicant.

Muckie

"Won't some one think of he's children!"

He'll be on to that woman(can't think of her name) where anytime

theres an African bein deported she'll be out protesting their innocence.

Stick her on the same plane with him next time.

giles lynchwood

Prevention is the best medicine.
He should be Flayed alive in o'connell street,3pm on a sunday.
Broadcasted on sky news,on the hour,every hour.

Celly Smunt

R P McMurphy wrote: »

I wonder did the French police arrest the spitters.

spitting is a word for general distaste in french