high profile converts

georgieporgy

this brief youtube piece surprised me with some of the people in it.

others may find it interesting too...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceWeNFNv4dI&feature=related

Soul Winner

georgieporgy wrote: »

this brief youtube piece surprised me with some of the people in it.

others may find it interesting too...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceWeNFNv4dI&feature=related

It reads at the end: "Welcome home brothers and sisters." A bit smarmy don't you think? Like everything about what they converted from was bad or something. Sad to think that there are people so insecure in their faith that they feel better about it if they know they've nabbed high profile converts. Such is life I suppose...:rolleyes: Oh and by the way, the first one is wrong, the apostle Paul did not convert to Catholicism. Tony Blair though, nice catch...

antiskeptic

georgieporgy wrote: »

this brief youtube piece surprised me with some of the people in it.

others may find it interesting too...

Setting out as it does with St. Paul..

:cool:

Morbert

Ironically, the music in the background has probably deconverted thousands.

mdebets

It also seems the author wasn't too bothered about a-la-cart Catholics in this list as well, which might have done it for convenience of a job or who hold believes that are different to the official Church teachings. I just had a quick look over the video and found the following 4:

• Johann Christian Bach - lived in Italy at the time and became the organist of Milan cathedral (a job he couldn't have get as a Lutheran)
• Carlos Menem - converted shortly before he became President of Argentine (a job that at that time required him to be Roman Catholic)
• Peter Paul Rubens - didn't really convert, but was rather converted (at the age of 12). It also might play a role that at the time he was born Calvinist he lived in a Protestant state, while at the time of his conversion he lived in a Catholic state.
• Anne Rice - while I'm not sure if she is Catholic again or not (but the video claims she is again, so I go with that), but she definitely holds non-Catholic believes, like support of gay rights, abortion and birth control

wolfsbane

mdebets wrote: »

It also seems the author wasn't too bothered about a-la-cart Catholics in this list as well, which might have done it for convenience of a job or who hold believes that are different to the official Church teachings. I just had a quick look over the video and found the following 4:

• Johann Christian Bach - lived in Italy at the time and became the organist of Milan cathedral (a job he couldn't have get as a Lutheran)
• Carlos Menem - converted shortly before he became President of Argentine (a job that at that time required him to be Roman Catholic)
• Peter Paul Rubens - didn't really convert, but was rather converted (at the age of 12). It also might play a role that at the time he was born Calvinist he lived in a Protestant state, while at the time of his conversion he lived in a Catholic state.
• Anne Rice - while I'm not sure if she is Catholic again or not (but the video claims she is again, so I go with that), but she definitely holds non-Catholic believes, like support of gay rights, abortion and birth control

Yes, a real spectrum of 'belief'. Comfort of an organisation, 'Mother Church', is most likely the cause, rather than spiritual truths revealed by the Bible. The monolith in history has an appeal.
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Mark 7:5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?”
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘ This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”
9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.

The Mad Hatter

mdebets wrote: »

• Anne Rice - while I'm not sure if she is Catholic again or not (but the video claims she is again, so I go with that), but she definitely holds non-Catholic believes, like support of gay rights, abortion and birth control

She's actually not any more. In her own words, she "quit."

Anne Rice wrote:

As I said below, I quit being a Christian. I'm out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen.

georgieporgy

Soul Winner wrote: »

It reads at the end: "Welcome home brothers and sisters." A bit smarmy don't you think? Like everything about what they converted from was bad or something. Sad to think that there are people so insecure in their faith that they feel better about it if they know they've nabbed high profile converts. Such is life I suppose...:rolleyes: Oh and by the way, the first one is wrong, the apostle Paul did not convert to Catholicism. Tony Blair though, nice catch...

As far as I know the term "coming home" is one coined by converts to the Faith. They haven't been nabbed or coerced. One converts oneself. It's either totally voluntary or it's meaningless.

As for catholics feeling insecure and feeling they must hold up some big name converts, I feel you may be missing the point of the video clip. We already have plenty of "big" names, eg, St Patrick, St Kevin, St Brigid, OLiver Plunkett, Matt Talbot, just to mention a few locals.

I think those searching for the truth can be compared to the jews wandering in the desert for 40 years searching for the promised land. There was nothing inferior about either the jews or the promised land, the two just hadn't connected yet.

PS there is a disclaimer at the start of the clip about Anne Rice

PS2 I like the background music ...:D