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Whats in your kit?

  • 09-09-2010 7:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭


    Hey guys, I'm starting to get a bit more paranoid than normal, I think its the lack of nicotine. However, I am putting together a survival bag that I can grab and run with, should the worse happen.

    I'm looking to keep it light enough to be mobile with, but have all that I would practically need.

    I'm thinking something like this:

    Matches, Box. (In a plastic ziploc to keep dry)
    Flint (For when the matches are gone)
    Fuel of some sort. (Thinking a canister of lighter fluid, again in a ziploc, to keep safe from everything else)
    Fishing line & hooks. (Even though I don't eat fish, its better to have and not use, than want and not have)
    Torch, & spare batteries (4 cell Maglight is the choice here, can also be used as an impromptu weapon if needed. Plus not overly heavy.)
    Compass. (Just in case)
    Swiss Army Knife. (That badboy has everything. What if I need to get a stone out of a horses hoof?)
    Box of painkillers. Ibuprofen, x 24. Ponston, x24.
    General antibiotic. (I get kidney infections, so its a no brainer.)

    What have I not thought of?
    Quoted the list, and add at the bottom.
    Remember, its not an all inclusive list, and it had to fit into a backpack.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Bucklesman


    You need an army-style poncho or a bivvy bag for shelter, and a sleeping bag if space permits. Last thing you need in a Zombie apocalypse is a head cold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Bucklesman wrote: »
    You need an army-style poncho or a bivvy bag for shelter, and a sleeping bag if space permits. Last thing you need in a Zombie apocalypse is a head cold.

    I'm adding the poncho/bivvy, as thats a good suggestion.
    Sleeping bag, I'm putting on a long finger, as it would restrict movement too much. Last thing I want to be doing if I hear a *UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH* is trying to fight my way out of sleeping bag. I hear that, and boom, I'm running.

    So

    Matches, Box. (In a plastic ziploc to keep dry)
    Flint (For when the matches are gone)
    Fuel of some sort. (Thinking a canister of lighter fluid, again in a ziploc, to keep safe from everything else)
    Fishing line & hooks. (Even though I don't eat fish, its better to have and not use, than want and not have)
    Torch, & spare batteries (4 cell Maglight is the choice here, can also be used as an impromptu weapon if needed. Plus not overly heavy.)
    Compass. (Just in case)
    Swiss Army Knife. (That badboy has everything. What if I need to get a stone out of a horses hoof?)
    Box of painkillers. Ibuprofen, x 24. Ponston, x24.
    General antibiotic. (I get kidney infections, so its a no brainer.)
    Poncho/Bivvy bag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    cereal bars, I'd prefer the ones with the jam/jelly in the centre, they seem more filling and a strong taste is nice once in a while,it'll be worth it once the foraging comes in.

    shelter is nice,but you'll get damn hungry and a reliable energetic food that won't go off any time soon is a godsend

    Also, needle and thread, sutures in a pinch and just handy for keeping your sh*t together as you go

    as dumb as it sounds a balaclava/ beany hat, it's as good as a wool jumper as you lose most of your bodyheat through your scalp.I'd say a hat is the last thing on you rmind when you need to grab and run,but it'll be worth it in the long run


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭ShadowGal


    my survival bag would contain

    little food bags
    plastic spoon and fork
    little frying pan
    lighters
    knife and little saw
    map
    small wind up radio
    compass
    water purifying tablets
    poncho
    map
    first aid kit
    sleeping bag (if i can fit it)

    i reserve the right to change at any time (after ive heard others cool ideas)


    edit : woops forgot a torch
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Matches, Box. (In a plastic ziploc to keep dry)
    Flint (For when the matches are gone)
    Fuel of some sort. (Thinking a canister of lighter fluid, again in a ziploc, to keep safe from everything else)
    Fishing line & hooks. (Even though I don't eat fish, its better to have and not use, than want and not have)
    Torch, & spare batteries (4 cell Maglight is the choice here, can also be used as an impromptu weapon if needed. Plus not overly heavy.)
    Compass. (Just in case)
    Swiss Army Knife. (That badboy has everything. What if I need to get a stone out of a horses hoof?)
    Box of painkillers. Ibuprofen, x 24. Ponston, x24.
    General antibiotic. (I get kidney infections, so its a no brainer.)
    Poncho/Bivvy bag
    Balaclava/Beanie hat.
    Cereal bars.
    Purification tablets. (Should I add in my Iodine tablets our Gubbermint so generously provided incase of Nuclear War...Oh wait, they're out of date. :pac:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭ShadowGal


    haha @ the iodine tablets. we really know how to mess things up here dont we :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,766 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Purely for expeditionary usage, will otherwise be travelling extremely light.

    1 large Machete
    backpack with the following:
    1 pair jeans
    2 t-shirts
    1 heavy jumper
    1 Towel
    2 bars of soap
    1 pack disposable razors
    3 pack of neurofen(+) excess can be traded
    2 pounds of makeshift bandages
    1 bottle vodka (as boredom relief and antiseptic)
    200 cigarettes (will not be trading, sorry)
    14 shotgun shells (no shotgun) can be used to trade
    1 nailclipper
    1 portable stove, incl. 1 butane canister
    1 pack firelighters & pouch of tinder
    20 foot lenght of rope (washing line or better)
    1 waterproof sleeping bag
    1 tin mug
    15 standard size packs of various dehydrated soups
    4 average sized tinned foods
    4 litres water & 1 filled hip canteen
    1 pocket knife (swiss army preferably)
    1 set small screw drivers (philips and flathead)
    1 tire iron
    *1 pack 20 bangers (from hallow'een) to be used as diversionary devices
    (or lures)/ signals, alternatively can be opened and used to create a crude small blackpowder bomb etc..

    this all amounts to a fairly hefty weight, decreasing my chances of survival per pound of extra weight.

    *the bangers are in place of flares, which would serve the same purpose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭ShadowGal


    wow. impressive list there grassy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    My Fubar and 2 ounces of cocaine, it's not so much a survival bag as a go out with a bang bag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭DakotaYoda


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭anomalous


    walkie talkies and an omni-tool are must haves
    i agree with packing food but only long lasting stuff - you have to scavenge as you go out to make it in the big bad zombified world

    i recommend reading The road by Cormac McCArthy (i know its a nuclear apocalypse not a zombie apocalypse but it has some very relevant issues and gives good tips for scavenging)

    the cart they have may not be viable in the early days when the zombies are everywhere - before we start thinning their numbers - but later and in more isolated areas a cart would be handy (most essential things of course stored in the back pack though for quick get aways)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Hivemind187


    Based on a 3-day reconaisance load out.

    General kit
    1) MilSpec UK Bergen with daypacks.
    2) Bed Roll and bivy bag
    3) 50ft of paracord
    4) Sturdy hiking boots (Magnums or better)
    5) 1 set dry clothes (military surplus)
    6) 1 set wet clothes (military surplus identicle)
    7) Sheemagh or other scarf
    8) Hard wearing, full finger, slash proof gloves (German leather soldiers gloves or better)
    9) Thermal underwear (long)
    10) 3 pairs of norweigian socks (trench foot is not our friend)
    11) 3 pairs of regular underwear (trench crotch is less our friend)
    12) 2 pairs of ballistic glasses with replaceable lenses (yellow for low light, smoke for bright light and clear for dusty medium light conditions).
    13) Cameraman or Medical-Tactical-Vest (plenty of pouches and loops for carabiners).
    14) half dozen carabiners.
    15) Boonie or other wide-brimed hat
    16) Parka or field jacket with a replaceable inner lining for warmth (mathed to the colour of your clothes).
    17) Camel-bak or other hygienic water bladder.
    18) Patrol belt


    Survival equipment
    1) Mess tin
    2) Hexamine burner with 5 days of Hexamine
    3) Water purification tablets
    4) Sewing kit capable of repairing any rips/tears etc in the clothing, bivy, pack etc
    5) 10" Knife and sheath (preferrably a Ka-Bar or similar but any decetn full tang survival knife or machette should to the job) and wet stone.
    6) Roll of Zip-Loc bags
    7) Water proof matches
    8) Zippo and lighter fluid
    9) 3 packs of MRE's
    10) Small box of pencils
    11) Ordinance Survey Map and Road system map complete with "points of interest" marked clearly
    12) Notepad
    13) Hand axe
    14) Flint
    15) D-Cell Flashlight with coloured filters (protects natural night vision)
    16) Compass with glow in the dark symbols
    17) Wrist watch
    18) Cable-ties
    19) Rubber bands
    20) Condoms

    Medical
    1) Box of latex gloves
    2) Surgical thread and needles
    3) Good selection of bandages and plasters
    4) Bottle of Iodine
    5) Bottle of De-Ionized water
    6) 3 packs of painkillers (codiene and ibuprofen)
    7) 3 packs of painkillers (paracetemol)
    8) 14 day supply of broad spectrum anti-biotics
    9) Antiseptic cream (preferrably with anesthetic in it)
    10) Scalpels or razor blades


    Personal Protection & hunting
    1) 35lb Recurve bow and spare bow strings.
    2) Quiver with two dozen arrows
    3) Baton, nunchucks, truncheon, tonfa or other bludgeoning item (less lethal)
    4) Cat-gut (40lb weight)
    5) Various sized fishing hooks


    Communications technology
    1) 2 packs of AA batteries
    2) scanning radio
    3) PMR Radio (Motorola XTN/XTR) for communicating
    4) Shatterproof Hand mirror
    5) Smoke markers (various colours)
    6) White flag


    Security
    1) Lock picks
    2) Screwdriver
    3) Crowbar (can double as a bludgeoning tool for personal protection)

    There is a method to this kit. It's about getting out of where ever you are stuck at the start of your disaster and giving you the best chance of finding better supplies as you go such as transport, shelter, fuel or firearms. You should be able to survive about 2 weeks on this kit with rationing and supplemental hunting so that gives you breathing space on the 3 days the kit is intended to provide comfort for.

    Edit: And fecking Duct-Tape :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Based on a 3-day reconaisance load out.

    General kit
    1) MilSpec UK Bergen with daypacks.
    2) Bed Roll and bivy bag
    3) 50ft of paracord
    4) Sturdy hiking boots (Magnums or better)
    5) 1 set dry clothes (military surplus)
    6) 1 set wet clothes (military surplus identicle)
    7) Sheemagh or other scarf
    8) Hard wearing, full finger, slash proof gloves (German leather soldiers gloves or better)
    9) Thermal underwear (long)
    10) 3 pairs of norweigian socks (trench foot is not our friend)
    11) 3 pairs of regular underwear (trench crotch is less our friend)
    12) 2 pairs of ballistic glasses with replaceable lenses (yellow for low light, smoke for bright light and clear for dusty medium light conditions).
    13) Cameraman or Medical-Tactical-Vest (plenty of pouches and loops for carabiners).
    14) half dozen carabiners.
    15) Boonie or other wide-brimed hat
    16) Parka or field jacket with a replaceable inner lining for warmth (mathed to the colour of your clothes).
    17) Camel-bak or other hygienic water bladder.
    18) Patrol belt


    Survival equipment
    1) Mess tin
    2) Hexamine burner with 5 days of Hexamine
    3) Water purification tablets
    4) Sewing kit capable of repairing any rips/tears etc in the clothing, bivy, pack etc
    5) 10" Knife and sheath (preferrably a Ka-Bar or similar but any decetn full tang survival knife or machette should to the job) and wet stone.
    6) Roll of Zip-Loc bags
    7) Water proof matches
    8) Zippo and lighter fluid
    9) 3 packs of MRE's
    10) Small box of pencils
    11) Ordinance Survey Map and Road system map complete with "points of interest" marked clearly
    12) Notepad
    13) Hand axe
    14) Flint
    15) D-Cell Flashlight with coloured filters (protects natural night vision)
    16) Compass with glow in the dark symbols
    17) Wrist watch
    18) Cable-ties
    19) Rubber bands
    20) Condoms

    Medical
    1) Box of latex gloves
    2) Surgical thread and needles
    3) Good selection of bandages and plasters
    4) Bottle of Iodine
    5) Bottle of De-Ionized water
    6) 3 packs of painkillers (codiene and ibuprofen)
    7) 3 packs of painkillers (paracetemol)
    8) 14 day supply of broad spectrum anti-biotics
    9) Antiseptic cream (preferrably with anesthetic in it)
    10) Scalpels or razor blades


    Personal Protection & hunting
    1) 35lb Recurve bow and spare bow strings.
    2) Quiver with two dozen arrows
    3) Baton, nunchucks, truncheon, tonfa or other bludgeoning item (less lethal)
    4) Cat-gut (40lb weight)
    5) Various sized fishing hooks


    Communications technology
    1) 2 packs of AA batteries
    2) scanning radio
    3) PMR Radio (Motorola XTN/XTR) for communicating
    4) Shatterproof Hand mirror
    5) Smoke markers (various colours)
    6) White flag


    Security
    1) Lock picks
    2) Screwdriver
    3) Crowbar (can double as a bludgeoning tool for personal protection)

    There is a method to this kit. It's about getting out of where ever you are stuck at the start of your disaster and giving you the best chance of finding better supplies as you go such as transport, shelter, fuel or firearms. You should be able to survive about 2 weeks on this kit with rationing and supplemental hunting so that gives you breathing space on the 3 days the kit is intended to provide comfort for.

    Edit: And fecking Duct-Tape :p

    Now thats what I'm talking about.
    i <3 u.

    Also
    20) Condoms
    Because you can never be too careful. Last thing you want when Zed's are trying to eat your brains in a dose of the clap.
    :P
    I know there's a practical use for them, but the durty bugger in me is just :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Hey guys, I'm starting to get a bit more paranoid than normal, I think its the lack of nicotine. However, I am putting together a survival bag that I can grab and run with, should the worse happen.

    You can add cigarettes to your list, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes you might as well enjoy the simple pleasures.
    Based on a 3-day reconaisance load out.

    General kit
    1) MilSpec UK Bergen with daypacks.
    2) Bed Roll and bivy bag
    3) 50ft of paracord
    4) Sturdy hiking boots (Magnums or better) Magnums suck, get something with ankle support
    5) 1 set dry clothes (military surplus)
    6) 1 set wet clothes (military surplus identicle)
    7) Sheemagh or other scarf
    8) Hard wearing, full finger, slash proof gloves (German leather soldiers gloves or better)
    9) Thermal underwear (long)
    10) 3 pairs of norweigian socks (trench foot is not our friend) (add foot powder)
    11) 3 pairs of regular underwear (trench crotch is less our friend) (Not cotton, bike shorts would be best)
    12) 2 pairs of ballistic glasses with replaceable lenses (yellow for low light, smoke for bright light and clear for dusty medium light conditions).
    13) Cameraman or Medical-Tactical-Vest (plenty of pouches and loops for carabiners). Is this in the bergan or are you wearing it?
    14) half dozen carabiners.
    15) Boonie or other wide-brimed hat
    16) Parka or field jacket with a replaceable inner lining for warmth (mathed to the colour of your clothes).
    17) Camel-bak or other hygienic water bladder.
    18) Patrol belt

    Is it lined to be waterproof?

    Survival equipment
    1) Mess tin Cups are smaller and heat faster, take less cleaning too
    2) Hexamine burner with 5 days of Hexamine
    3) Water purification tablets
    4) Sewing kit capable of repairing any rips/tears etc in the clothing, bivy, pack etc
    5) 10" Knife and sheath (preferrably a Ka-Bar or similar but any decetn full tang survival knife or machette should to the job) and wet stone.
    6) Roll of Zip-Loc bags
    7) Water proof matches
    8) Zippo and lighter fluid Butane would work better, I think, burns hotter.
    9) 3 packs of MRE's
    10) Small box of pencils
    11) Ordinance Survey Map and Road system map complete with "points of interest" marked clearly
    12) Notepad
    13) Hand axe
    14) Flint
    15) D-Cell Flashlight with coloured filters (protects natural night vision) LED torches last MUCH longer and are far brighter, the bulbs last way longer too, D-Cell are only really good for clocking people over the head
    16) Compass with glow in the dark symbols
    17) Wrist watch
    18) Cable-ties
    19) Rubber bands
    20) Condoms

    Medical
    1) Box of latex gloves
    2) Surgical thread and needles
    3) Good selection of bandages and plasters
    4) Bottle of Iodine
    5) Bottle of De-Ionized water
    6) 3 packs of painkillers (codiene and ibuprofen)
    7) 3 packs of painkillers (paracetemol)
    8) 14 day supply of broad spectrum anti-biotics
    9) Antiseptic cream (preferrably with anesthetic in it)
    10) Scalpels or razor blades Another reason for butane lighter, will sterilise better given a hotter flame


    Personal Protection & hunting
    1) 35lb Recurve bow and spare bow strings.
    2) Quiver with two dozen arrows
    3) Baton, nunchucks, truncheon, tonfa or other bludgeoning item (less lethal)
    4) Cat-gut (40lb weight)
    5) Various sized fishing hooks Box or pack to keep this in?


    Communications technology
    1) 2 packs of AA batteries
    2) scanning radio
    3) PMR Radio (Motorola XTN/XTR) for communicating
    4) Shatterproof Hand mirror
    5) Smoke markers (various colours)
    6) White flag


    Security
    1) Lock picks
    2) Screwdriver
    3) Crowbar (can double as a bludgeoning tool for personal protection)

    There is a method to this kit. It's about getting out of where ever you are stuck at the start of your disaster and giving you the best chance of finding better supplies as you go such as transport, shelter, fuel or firearms. You should be able to survive about 2 weeks on this kit with rationing and supplemental hunting so that gives you breathing space on the 3 days the kit is intended to provide comfort for.

    Edit: And fecking Duct-Tape :p

    Since yours is the longest list I have decided to pick holes where I see them! :D

    The kit you have seems WAY too heavy though, the first time you see a Z you are caught because you won't be able to move fast enough away if the Z's are infected with a strain that allows them to move quickly.

    I think your pack depends on you being in the countryside when the outbreaks start too much.

    Also, invest in a leatherman! They are worth their weight in gold!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,021 ✭✭✭Hivemind187


    You can add cigarettes to your list, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes you might as well enjoy the simple pleasures.



    Since yours is the longest list I have decided to pick holes where I see them! :D

    The kit you have seems WAY too heavy though, the first time you see a Z you are caught because you won't be able to move fast enough away if the Z's are infected with a strain that allows them to move quickly.

    I think your pack depends on you being in the countryside when the outbreaks start too much.

    Also, invest in a leatherman! They are worth their weight in gold!

    Interesting analysis

    re: weight of the kit. Its actually not. nearly everything, other than the stuff you need always to hand goes in the bergin which is secured using fast-tex clips so a ditch-and-run maneuver is always an option.

    Secondly, regarding the vest, this is where the absolute essentials go, hence the choice of a cameraman or medics vest, more ability to carry the absolute essntials like med supplies etc.

    Lighter fluid, well we dont need to worry about campfires since we have Hexamine - a military stove fuel available in camping stores. The fluid is for the zippo and for starting kinling should you run out of hexy.

    Torch - good point but I havent seen an LED one with filters yet. If there is then hell yes switch them out.

    Clothing - two sets one dry and one wet. If you dont have the luxury of weather proof kit (which is never really weather proof) its best to have kit that stays wet all the time and kit that stays dry all the time. You wear your wet kit when its wet (most of the time) and your dry kit when its dry. Admitedly this system works better in a more humid, warm climate but its always good to know that when you do find shelter you have a nice dry pair of keks.

    Steralising with flame isnt always the best idea. It will cause the metal to expand damaging the edge of the implement which can make any work much more dangerous. Hence the bottle of iodine, very useful for killing microbugs.

    I live in the suburbs so the pack isnt meant for rat-running in the city. I'd most likely have a different set up for that contingency.

    Edit: I should clarify the weight issue. The load is evenly distributed over the body to make walking easier. The heaviest items are things like the MRE supplies which you cant do much about and the Camel-Bak (ditto). the upshot is these are expendable items which will lower the weight of the kit as they are consumed.

    Edit Edit: Leatherman ... I knew I forgot something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Ginja Ninja


    The zippo is a must, it can burn on diesel[a bit handier than butane to find] will hold out for years if you know how to mind one and is generally a better all rounder, with a viable light source you can leave down to have free hands, worth so much for night time actions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 humanpunchbag


    Some form of water purification system.
    Preferablly light because all of those zombies rotting in your water source is going to make it difficult to get clean ater otherwise and you can't live that long without water. Zombies or no zombies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Kromdar


    thinking about a city kit:

    light, mil surplus bag. i have a decent one with loops for attaching extra stuff to it, no bigger than you're average schoolbag but is waterproof canvas/plastic mix.

    maybe double the rope, add in a rock climbing harness, grapple hook? good for getting indoors, or use in place of a rope ladder.

    leatherman a definite, especially with a sharp blade, but something like the fubar would be great for opening stuff, or a crowbar if you're strong enough [i'm thinking of the wrench parts on the fubar]

    what about a headlamp instead of a torch? handy when scavving buildings.

    lockpicks etc all good, keep em on the vest.

    some form of steel toe runner/boot hybrid, seen a few about in workclothes shops. can save a bit of weight, extra mobility.
    slashproof hoodies if ya can, if not a thick leather coat or biker coat.
    headwear perhaps a rugby helmet or my favourite, paratrooper hat. when scavving indoors this can prevent some nasty knocks to the head by fallign debris.

    a small first aid kit,stock as necessary, not necessarily a survival kit as most food/water can be found in looted shops etc.

    a battery and some wires,or i dunno how legit this is, something like a multimeter but it can power devices. can be handy for a quick power up of an electronic lock or radio. any radio experts out there know the operations limits of short wave radios in the city? i know most cant work without a repeater outside 10km.

    a hammock. zombies cant climb trees.

    spraypaint. cause we could leave those cool lamda symbols around to mark survivor points [lol]

    as for the rest, bits of hiveminds kit, map, pencil, clothes, cable ties, lighter &fuel, small axe [read:crowbar?], screwdriver, all the other scavving essentials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Kromdar wrote: »
    maybe double the rope, add in a rock climbing harness, grapple hook? good for getting indoors, or use in place of a rope ladder.
    For all the use you'd get out of the rope it may be a burden to carry around. Large, heavy and prone to snagging. Unless you think you'll use it on a daily basis I don't see the point most Irish buildings are easy enough to break into.


    what about a headlamp instead of a torch? handy when scavving buildings.
    The problem with headlamps is the newer ones run off LEDs which is grand but for the most part they're designed to work in tight spaces not over distance. It will give adequate light indoors and more than likely last a hell of a lot longer than a standard torch but outdoors it may be no more than a beacon highlighting the position of your head.
    lockpicks etc all good, keep em on the vest.
    You won't need lockpicks if you have a fubar.


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