No show lecturers

charlie_says

This really gets up my nose.

Lecturers who don't show up for classes in the first two weeks. Out of the 14 hours of scheduled lectures from the start of term 20 mins was spent actually looking and listening to a lecturer. The rest didn't show up and have the common courtesy to email students in advance to tell them the lecture is not on.

I costs me money to travel in to uni and to eat there. I have to get up at 7 to get the bus for a 9 o'clock lecture. ****en ****.....no respect.

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filmbuffboy

was this is nuig? what year you in? im surprised that this happens. you should complain to whatever dept is relevant.

RolandIRL

yes it happened to me monday. was supposed to have a maths lecture. guy never showed, though i left after 10mins. i know he didn't show up after cos others came out later. but it is kinda annoying that they don't show up. think it happened to me last year in maths as well.

poisonated

It is a disgrace. You would think that with the considerable amount of money they are paid, they would have the decency to send out a quick email.

Ficheall

I hope ye'd all feel the same about students not turning up to class etc.
And aye, someone'll bring up the "money" issue, but surely the same common courtesy ought to be expectable from either side...

challengemaster

While I'm not defending them not showing up - say something does actually come up last minute and they can't show up, what use is sending an email at 10:45 for a 11 lecture. It's actually unlikely that ANYONE would get the email until later on that day. Then you'd be complaining "what use was it sending an email then"

poisonated

In fairness, that's completely different. A lecture can still be carried out with 1 student missing. The lecture cannot, however, be thought if the lecturer is missing.

That is in response to Ficheall btw

RolandIRL

Ficheall wrote: »

I hope ye'd all feel the same about students not turning up to class etc.

i show up to a lecture, i expect the lecturer to do the same. they're not going to lose out if they don't show up but if i don't show, then i've lost out on something.
students not turning up, it will eventually come back to bite them on the arse. not the case with lecturers.

poisonated

I see where you're coming from but if it stops 1 person from wasting their money/time going to the lecture, I think it is worth it.

(In response to challengemaster)

Ficheall

whiteman19 wrote: »

i show up to a lecture, i expect the lecturer to do the same. they're not going to lose out if they don't show up but if i don't show, then i've lost out on something.
students not turning up, it will eventually come back to bite them on the arse. not the case with lecturers.

Obviously if you show up to a lecture you expect the lecturer to do the same :-/
Not quite as tautological(sic?) is that a lecturer expects their students to turn up to a lecture.
That point is hardly a factor.

Similarly the "you losing out on something if you don't show up" is no extra reason for a lecturer to turn up to a lecture or not. Is it supposed to be some consolation to them that you fail? No.

I do agree with you - the lecturers should try to make it to their lectures.
I was just trying to point out that hopefully students will realise that lecturers may feel similarly a little let down if students don't show up.
Also - the complaint was made too early - the lecturer may well have had a genuine excuse. (Not necessarily the case, but it's nice to give people the benefit of the doubt.)
And lastly - ye'd be better off taking things easy this week. Ease your way into it - things get tough enough later on. Though I do know how fun it is to complain about silly things on the internet...

K4t

Ficheall wrote: »

Obviously if you show up to a lecture you expect the lecturer to do the same :-/
Not quite as tautological(sic?) is that a lecturer expects their students to turn up to a lecture.
That point is hardly a factor.

Similarly the "you losing out on something if you don't show up" is no extra reason for a lecturer to turn up to a lecture or not. Is it supposed to be some consolation to them that you fail? No.

I do agree with you - the lecturers should try to make it to their lectures.
I was just trying to point out that hopefully students will realise that lecturers may feel similarly a little let down if students don't show up.
Also - the complaint was made too early - the lecturer may well have had a genuine excuse. (Not necessarily the case, but it's nice to give people the benefit of the doubt.)
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You have a strange perspective on things I must say. The parts in bold reflect the kind of attitude rampant in many public sector jobs that those in the private sector complain about on a daily basis. It's the lecturers job to turn up to all his/her lectures unless sick etc. His/Her feelings about student attendance shouldn't affect his/her attendance. They have few enough hours for what they earn, the least they can do is try and show up for lectures.

brianthebard

K4t wrote: »

You have a strange perspective on things I must say. The parts in bold reflect the kind of attitude rampant in many public sector jobs that those in the private sector complain about on a daily basis. It's the lecturers job to turn up to all his/her lectures unless sick etc. His/Her feelings about student attendance shouldn't affect his/her attendance. They have few enough hours for what they earn, the least they can do is try and show up for lectures.

Nothing to do with NUIG brah.

OP, its frustrating but I wouldn't be too hard on them yet, there is a lot going on at this time of the year in the departments getting ready for the new year, working with postgrads on dissertations, etc. You can always email a lecturer to complain/ask why they were missing, or contact their department. Of course, if they come back and say they weren't there cause they didn't feel like it then you have every right to be angry.

Ficheall

K4t wrote: »

It's the lecturers job to turn up to all his/her lectures unless sick etc.

That's what I meant when I said they should try to make it to all their lectures, aye.

K4t wrote: »

His/Her feelings about student attendance shouldn't affect his/her attendance.

Of course not - I was merely pointing out that students annoyed by the "lack of respect" shown by lecturers should realise it's something of a two-way street.
As far as actual job/responsibility etc. goes, then of course there is a difference...

natman2007

I think i know the actual reason the lecture did not show up. The maths dept only came up with their timetables on Monday ( you may have seen times earlier but for a lot of lectures they wait till maths gets the times. for example a lot of times Eng dept will just assume a class is happening at a given time, but maths have to make sure,book rooms,etc.. hence the delay )
Thats what i think happened, might have just been an honest mistake - most people in maths are good.

On the other hand, some lectures just assume first week back, so few will attend no point in me turning up - personally i think its wrong.

qazwsx

no use complaining if you don't make a complaint to the university these guys are well paid and should do the job. I hear that they teach 5 hours a week for gods sake. send a complaint to the head or dean or whoever is in charge down there

QueenOfLeon

For the first week there may just be confusion over timetables, even CAO offers aren't fully finished so numbers and timetables mightn't be fully sorted out. I don't think I had any lecturer last year who didn't turn up, so its probably just a first week back type thing.

theintern

There was an attempt within the Engineering department to fix this problem by sending texts to students if a lecture was to be canceled at short notice.

To be honest though, you're in the college and have a free hour, head up to Smokeys and chill, it's no big deal. There's usually a good reason for it and the lecturer will apologise in the next class.