shotgun in all weather

ferrete

dont mind if i ask but is it healthy to have a shotgun out in all weather even heavy rain. i was wondering if you got cover like a sock to put over them which you can still operate them while the cover is on in my case asemi auto. how bad is it to have the gun out in the rain??

ANY ADVICE WILL BE MORE THAN WELCOME

FISMA

What's your game: sitting and waiting for deer, ducks, boat, ...?

When I am sitting and waiting for long periods of time, exposed to rain, I often keep my firearm covered, either by some material or wearing a rain poncho.

Rain is not good, the water will get into places that are difficult to clean and get at. There's no healthy dose of water for firearms.

If your firearm gets soaked (like dropped in bog hole), use some WD-40. WD standing for water-displacement. WD-40 is a penetrant and not a lubricant. It will remove the good grease and protective lubricants as well as getting water out. Thus, you'll need to get some protectant back in/on the firearm.

Be especially careful if you are waterfowling in sea-water. The salt adds another dimension to an already bad situation.

What kind of firearm are we talking? I would never take a Merkel out on a bad day. However, my field gun is just that - the one that's going to get scratched and used, just not abused. Are we talking about a "game-day" gun or an heirloom?

Tackleberrywho

ferrete wrote: »

dont mind if i ask but is it healthy to have a shotgun out in all weather even heavy rain. i was wondering if you got cover like a sock to put over them which you can still operate them while the cover is on in my case asemi auto. how bad is it to have the gun out in the rain??

ANY ADVICE WILL BE MORE THAN WELCOME

The Sock will hold water like a spong, I had one. Sock not very effective IMNHO slides all over the place.

I got a roll of camo tape £7 from Intershoot the other day, it sticks to itself not the gun, but will not slide about like a gun sock will.

In rain prevention is better than cure, Spray on oil on all metal surfaces before you go out.
Wear gloves if possible, our hands are salty and wet, 2 prime requirements for rust.

I think there is a thing called armourclad. J.R on here has a link for it.

If you want to keep the gun dry you should consider a waterproof poncho

Tackleberrywho

FISMA wrote: »

What's your game: sitting and waiting for deer, ducks, boat, ...?

When I am sitting and waiting for long periods of time, exposed to rain, I often keep my firearm covered, either by some material or wearing a rain poncho.

Rain is not good, the water will get into places that are difficult to clean and get at. There's no healthy dose of water for firearms.

If your firearm gets soaked (like dropped in bog hole), use some WD-40. WD standing for water-displacement. WD-40 is a penetrant and not a lubricant. It will remove the good grease and protective lubricants as well as getting water out. Thus, you'll need to get some protectant back in/on the firearm.

Be especially careful if you are waterfowling in sea-water. The salt adds another dimension to an already bad situation.

What kind of firearm are we talking? I would never take a Merkel out on a bad day. However, my field gun is just that - the one that's going to get scratched and used, just not abused. Are we talking about a "game-day" gun or an heirloom?

You beat me to it FISMA!!

Here is something Ferrete that may be useful

http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-ENHANCED-WOODLAND-DIGITAL-RIP-STOP/dp/B001TA7N6E/ref=pd_sbs_a_1

Tackleberrywho

If you want to offer a small bit of bump protection to wood
http://www.cachezone.eu/epages/61250948.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61250948/Products/CZ-RR-HFT

deeksofdoom

In heavy rain, mist or fog from a safety point of view you shouldn’t be out shooting. Last January there were a number of accidents around the country when fellahs went out shooting in thick fog this was the weekend just after the cold snap.

The best advice you could be given is to leave your shotgun in the gun cabinet on wet days, that way it won’t get rusty and you have less chance of having an accident.

jwshooter

rain will have no affect on your shot gun ,dry it properly and re oil it .

from a safety point of view ,barrels should be checked as a matter of course over a days hunting .a build up of rain/water is possible in the barrel ,but again in the course of a hunt you will not always have the gun pointing up .

my biggest concern is wet/cold hands on safety catches and triggers .

also dont use WD-40 on your pride and joy as its known to strip the bluing over time .

Eddie B

deeksofdoom wrote: »

In heavy rain, mist or fog from a safety point of view you shouldn’t be out shooting. Last January there were a number of accidents around the country when fellahs went out shooting in thick fog this was the weekend just after the cold snap.

The best advice you could be given is to leave your shotgun in the gun cabinet on wet days, that way it won’t get rusty and you have less chance of having an accident.

If we stayed home on the wet day's, with the weather we get in this country, we wouldn't get out much at all!!!!:D:D

You should know yourself, it's almost impossible to spend a day on the lake, without ending up with a wet gun!!;)

pedroeibar1

jwshooter wrote: »

rain will have no affect on your shot gun ,dry it properly and re oil it .

from a safety point of view ,barrels should be checked as a matter of course over a days hunting .a build up of rain/water is possible in the barrel ,but again in the course of a hunt you will not always have the gun pointing up .

my biggest concern is wet/cold hands on safety catches and triggers .

also dont use WD-40 on your pride and joy as its known to strip the bluing over time .

Good advice except for the last comment on WD40 - that is an old wives' tale - same as the one that it is made from fish oils. Guns are built to get wet, but not immersed.

They should not be dried out over a stove, and as jws says, dry them off and rub all-over with a slightly oiled rag. If your stock is wooden do not use gun oil on it.
P.

deeksofdoom

Eddie B wrote: »

You should know yourself, it's almost impossible to spend a day on the lake, without ending up with a wet gun!!;)

Try not to use the gun to paddle the boat.;)

CJhaughey

Thats why I have a synthetic stock Remmy. Water doesn't phase it.
Stick a condom on the muzzle if you are worried about the barrel filling with water. It will burst before the load hits it:D
And if you need to paddle the canoe it will work fine.
Lots of people don't like the look of a black synthetic stock but If you look at it in terms of practicality they are hard to beat, riot gun look or not.

cavan shooter

I have a standard urika 391 for game shooting and it gets wet and mucky on occassion best thing to do is wipe it off a small cloth (old face cloth oily) tucked into the shooting jacket is handy and out of the way.

Wipe it off again putting it in the car for travel and a good clean that night

johngalway

Bought my shotgun in the full knowledge it'd get wet, dirty, scratched I dry and clean the hell out of it once home.

ferrete

i have a brettera a391 and just like to keep it good

elius

johngalway wrote: »

Bought my shotgun in the full knowledge it'd get wet, dirty, scratched I dry and clean the hell out of it once home.

Same as lad. Dont see the point in spending KKK on a shoty knowing full well it will get bashed and bruised!

foxer 204

i have a snythetic 870 remington pump and you could leave it at the pond ,there easy to wipe down and reliable in all weather plus the safety is a button behind the trigger gaurd so cold fingers arent as much of a problem,there is a new one out the 887 nitro mag armour clad , it looks like a nice shotgun !

ferrete

well i aintlooking for a new gun just lookin to keep my own in good condition

Tackleberrywho

ferrete wrote: »

well i aintlooking for a new gun just lookin to keep my own in good condition

The waterproof poncho is the way to go, that and plenty of WD40

ferrete

wouldn go asfar as wd40 an a poncho il look lik a nob but its better than wrecking my gun

LongRifle

Birchwood Casey Barricade is fantastic stuff. I use it on every metal part of all my firearms. It evaporates to leave a dry lube which causes water to bead off the metal and makes the bolt on the rifle or the hinge on the shotty work that bit smoother. You should be able to pick it up in any good dealers.

meathstevie

Shotguns are designed to be used, a bit of moisture won't kill them. If your shotty has gotten wet and damp during a days hunting take it apart, clean it ( easier when carbon deposits are still fresh ) , let it dry out at room temperature ( bit of a draught wont hurt either ) and clean it again and that should be the gun ready for another rainy hunting day.

greenpeter

If i am leaving mine idle for a few weeks i cover the barrels in new engine oil and leave them standing barrel down in the gun safe with something to catch the oil under them,
when going shooting give them a rub of a rag to take excess oil off,
don't get oil on the timber it soften it.

I think its a great job, i don't like using wd40 unless i have a squeaky door:)

worsel

Sorry for jumping in on this Tread !
BUT i need some advise ??
Took my Shotgun out yesterday only to notice it is all rusty Spots !!
Must have been WET when i put in back in the Sleave on the 3rd September !!
What should I Do ??
I have been soaking it with Gun Oil - Do i use Sand Paper ?? Or just an Oily rag ??/ Should i Get it re-Blued ???
Any Advice Welcome - Thanks Lads...

dan17

elius wrote: »

Same as lad. Dont see the point in spending KKK on a shoty knowing full well it will get bashed and bruised!

ya with ya on that one. have an o+u baikil with years...there indestructable and knock a bird same as any fancy berreta

sikastag

If you can manage it, try drying the firearm before you put it back into the slip/case or better still dont put it back if it is drenched, leave it on top. The material in them can hold a lot of moisture and hang around to bite ya in the ass another day. Obviously do not leave it in open view in an unattended vehicle. I realise this may conflict with the current laws as regards storage and transport but who wants a rust bucket for a firearm. As already said give it a wipe in the field if possible and a 'proper' going over when ya get back to base.

pedroeibar1

worsel wrote: »

Sorry for jumping in on this Tread !
BUT i need some advise ??
Took my Shotgun out yesterday only to notice it is all rusty Spots !!
Must have been WET when i put in back in the Sleave on the 3rd September !!
What should I Do ??
I have been soaking it with Gun Oil - Do i use Sand Paper ?? Or just an Oily rag ??/ Should i Get it re-Blued ???
Any Advice Welcome - Thanks Lads...

Rub the spots firmly with an oily rag - most will disappear. Do NOT put steel wool or sandpaper near it. Bluing is actually rust, 'grown' in a specific controlled manner. A few spots of ordinary rust will not do any harm, other than to the gun’s appearance. If they are bad you could use a touch-up product, but that probably would also stand out.



You probably put the wet gun into the sleeve at the car and then forgot that the sleeve could have been wet when you stored the gun. That’s what most people do.

Rs
P.

Tackleberrywho

i got a squeezie bottle of Remington rust preventer off Intershoot.

it contains Teflon and i was out in heavy rain Sat evening, when i got home Teflon spray was still on shotty.

Bottle of spray was €8! Worth every penny

meathstevie

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Rub the spots firmly with an oily rag - most will disappear. Do NOT put steel wool or sandpaper near it. Bluing is actually rust, 'grown' in a specific controlled manner. A few spots of ordinary rust will not do any harm, other than to the gun’s appearance. If they are bad you could use a touch-up product, but that probably would also stand out.



You probably put the wet gun into the sleeve at the car and then forgot that the sleeve could have been wet when you stored the gun. That’s what most people do.

Rs
P.

And if you really need to take something to it a steel wool ( as in the really non soapy soft variety to clean pots and pans ) and very liberal quantities of fine machine oil or gun oil will be far better than sanding paper which is far too coarse to use on gun barrels for cleaning purposes.

CJhaughey

I have used OOO grade steel wool with light machine oil to successfully remove rust spots from Blueing.
Put a few drops of oil on the spot and polish in a circular motion, every so often use a clean rag to wipe away the excess oil if you are removing the rust you will see brown stains on the rag.
Keep polishing until the rust spot has gone.
Just make sure that there is plenty of oil on the rust spot that you are trying to remove, otherwise the steel wool can be hard on the finish.
Never use anything coarser than OO or OOO steel wool it will destroy your finish.
Birchwood Casey sell a cold blueing kit which uses, it works well enough to make a difference but keep an eye on where the spot was, that will be the first place to rust again