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Can God reject a commited loving monogamous relationship

  • 05-09-2010 1:37am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭


    Our Christisan members are often at odds with some members of their community, so when Jonathan (not his real name) told his mother he was in love with another man, she panicked and asked her (Catholic) priest what to do.

    He told her that God was happy for them if they were in a commited faithful relationship, and that God was not interested in perving into their bedroom, as long as their love was pure.

    Have others encountered such situations?
    How were they dealt with?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    Our Christisan members are often at odds with some members of their community, so when Jonathan (not his real name) told his mother he was in love with another man, she panicked and asked her (Catholic) priest what to do.

    He told her that God was happy for them if they were in a commited faithful relationship, and that God was not interested in perving into their bedroom, as long as their love was pure.

    Have others encountered such situations?
    How were they dealt with?

    Yes, God can indeed reject a loving monogamous relationship as being contrary to His Word and therefore incompatible with being His disciple.

    But we won't get very far with a discussion where anyone who has an opinion about whether something is right or wrong is described as "Perving" into other people's bedrooms."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    This is the one issue that relies undermines religion for me...

    The idea that an omnipotent, omniscient and benevolent deity would really concern itself with something so utterly trivial and petty is just so.... ludicrous.

    Fragile human ego on the other hand? But this is not surprising. We consider ourselves to be special and unique enough to warrant attention from such a being, so invoking said being in favour of our prejudices is not really that big a step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭dvae


    I think the simple answer is yes.
    The Bible says such things (men who lie with men) are detestable.
    The Bible also states that such people will not inherit Gods kingdom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    The bible says alot of things that have been forgotten in time.

    Evil shrimp!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    One sentence in the bible.

    A 2000 year old manuscript that has been edited, manipulated, interpreted and re-interpreted god knows how many times.

    There have been so many things that religious leaders have claimed to interpreted and defined from religious texts telling us to do or not do or believe or not believe certain things. So many of those stances have changed over time.

    As I said before, I just find it impossible to accept that an omniscient and omnipotent being would really be bothered by such trivial notions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    dvae wrote: »
    I think the simple answer is yes.
    The Bible says such things (men who lie with men) are detestable.
    The Bible also states that such people will not inherit Gods kingdom.

    It also says things like not wearing clothes made of two fibres and not planting different crops in the same field, silly things like that which have since been ignored as they're no longer relevant, yet the idea of 2 men sleeping together is conveniently still batted around as against gods will and an abomination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭marty1985


    Maybe it's against His Word, but he didn't seem to mention it himself when he was on the good Earth. I've been thinking recently about why he made it so hard to know what His Word is. I do struggle with this. I read the bible, but I don't understand others who claim to know what is and isn't against His Word when the book itself is so contradictory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    Memnoch wrote: »
    One sentence in the bible.

    A 2000 year old manuscript that has been edited, manipulated, interpreted and re-interpreted god knows how many times.

    There have been so many things that religious leaders have claimed to interpreted and defined from religious texts telling us to do or not do or believe or not believe certain things. So many of those stances have changed over time.

    As I said before, I just find it impossible to accept that an omniscient and omnipotent being would really be bothered by such trivial notions.

    No, it isn't one sentence in the Bible. It's a number of different passages in the Bible, all of which present a uniformly negative view of homosexual acts.

    Also, the whole point of the Christian faith is that God reveals His will to us and we submit to Him, not vice versa. So what you find possible or impossible to accept is rather irrelevant.

    If the OP wishes to hear Christian responses on this issue then please send me a PM and the mods will gladly facilitate a thread that will be open to both Christians and members of the LGBT community to engage in dialogue on this issue. But, given that this present thread is already proving a magnet to attract the usual drive-by atheist trolls, a lock is in order.


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