Dublin Bike Stations or lack there of

cgcsb

Places that could do with them in my opinion:

-Heuston Station (I'm amazed one The Country's biggest rail terminus doesn't already have one)
-Connolly Station (although there is a small one outside Supervalue on Talbot Street.
-Mountjoy Square
-Manor Street
-Grand Canal Dock
-Docklands Station
-The Point Village
-Guiness Storehouse,
-St James's Hospital
-ClanBrassile Street
-Maybe Croke Park and Lansdowne Road
-The RDS.
-Drumcondra
-Cork Street
-Broadstone
-Ringsend

Run_to_da_hills

Theres a reason why many of the main commuter rail stations don't have them.

All the bikes would dissapear from the rack on the frrst commuter train in the morning, and as soon as people start to head home from work the rack would be full and would stay full for the rest of the night.

Cookie_Monster

As RTDH said, you must have site situated so they are in a position that they have a reasinsonably steady and predictable turnover

smackyB

Could we just not have extra large bike racks at railway stations to cater for commuters? There's one at Pearse (though it needs to be bigger) so why not the other stations?

Run_to_da_hills

smackyB wrote: »

Could we just not have extra large bike racks at railway stations to cater for commuters? There's one at Pearse (though it needs to be bigger) so why not the other stations?

That would only amplify the problem, i.e. empty racks in the morning and over capacitated racks in the evening. The Bike rack beside Pearse St also caters for Trinity college students hense the steady turnover of cycles throughout the day.

snappieT

smackyB wrote: »

Could we just not have extra large bike racks at railway stations to cater for commuters? There's one at Pearse (though it needs to be bigger) so why not the other stations?

The one at Pearse is a little bit out of the way on purpose. Many people working up in Stephen's Green/Grafton Street won't walk in the opposite direction to get a bike on Pearse Street.

cgcsb

ok so why not have a very large bike station at Heuston, I've seen other ones completely empty and completely full before, I don't see why that's a problem, at least people are using them.

What about the other locations Clanbrasil st, Manor St Phibsborough etc. I notice there's a distinct lack of bike stations in the western part of central Dublin, and the Eastern part, there's non west of Smithfield and non east of the customs house.
Also Mountjoy square/Croke Park and the surrounding area are void of any.

mgmt

Dublin Zoo or at least at the new courthouse.

AlekSmart

Donnybrook.

mgmt

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Theres a reason why many of the main commuter rail stations don't have them.

All the bikes would dissapear from the rack on the frrst commuter train in the morning, and as soon as people start to head home from work the rack would be full and would stay full for the rest of the night.

What about if you have a full supply of dublinbikes at Heuston station in the morning. Commuters than use the bikes, bring them into the city and feed the rest of the city centre stations.

the boss of me

cgcsb wrote: »

non east of the customs house.
Also Mountjoy square/Croke Park and the surrounding area are void of any.

There is a stand on Mountjoy Sq West., it's been there since day one. There's also two East of the Custom Hse at the famine memorial and at Citibank on the North Wall.

Cookie_Monster

mgmt wrote: »

What about if you have a full supply of dublinbikes at Heuston station in the morning. Commuters than use the bikes, bring them into the city and feed the rest of the city centre stations.

and what about the cost of transporting them and the cost of all these extra bikes themselves?

paulm17781

In Paris they have bike stations at most bigger train stations. If the scheme was managed better it wouldn't be an issue. As usual, half arsed Irish approach.

loyatemu

paulm17781 wrote: »

In Paris they have bike stations at most bigger train stations. If the scheme was managed better it wouldn't be an issue. As usual, half arsed Irish approach.

harsh - the scheme has been a major success. it would be better if it covered a larger area of the city, but it would cost a lot more money which would either have to come from the council (who don't have it) or JCDecaux (who would probably want to stick giant billboards on every liffey bridge in return). Paris is a much larger, denser city with proper public transport.

A few million from the Metro North budget would pay for substantial expansion of the scheme - just tossing an idea out there...

antoinolachtnai

I don't think there is any more management you could do on it to make it more efficient.

To extend the service even 600 yards further out of town would require doubling everything up in scale. On the whole this seems like it would be a good value thing to do. It would be interesting to see some economics.

Ham'nd'egger

smackyB wrote: »

Could we just not have extra large bike racks at railway stations to cater for commuters? There's one at Pearse (though it needs to be bigger) so why not the other stations?

Where would you put the ranks at the stations? There is very little room outside Heuston for one and none at all outside Connolly unless it is put into the station car park (Perhaps there is issues with them being on private property).

paulm17781

loyatemu wrote: »

harsh -

But true.

loyatemu wrote: »

Paris is a much larger, denser city with proper public transport.

That's because they do things properly, unlike us.

cgcsb

the boss of me wrote: »

There is a stand on Mountjoy Sq West., it's been there since day one. There's also two East of the Custom Hse at the famine memorial and at Citibank on the North Wall.

I must have missed the Mountjoy sq one
there's one beside the famine memorial? I haven't seen the citibank one, interesting.

cgcsb

paulm17781 wrote: »

In Paris they have bike stations at most bigger train stations. If the scheme was managed better it wouldn't be an issue. As usual, half arsed Irish approach.

That's a bit harsh considering that when the Paris Scheme started it was actually alot smaller.

cgcsb

Hamndegger wrote: »

Where would you put the ranks at the stations? There is very little room outside Heuston for one and none at all outside Connolly unless it is put into the station car park (Perhaps there is issues with them being on private property).

Ah there is a good bit of room outside Heuston, in fairness. Granted at Connolly there is an issue with space

cgcsb

I think the bike scheme would do well in smaller Irish Cities. If there were a few around Cork, they'd be well used especially from Kent Station to Patrick Street/Grand Parade. It'd only be 10 mins cycle, making the middleton/cobh commuter line alot more attractive to commuters.

Ham'nd'egger

cgcsb wrote: »

Ah there is a good bit of room outside Heuston, in fairness. Granted at Connolly there is an issue with space

There isn't a lot space on the public road/path to put a bike rack outside the station. Remember that there is a bus stop and a LUAS stop, all of which are on CIE or RPA property plus some space outside Heuston is needed in case of an evacuation. There may also be an issue with putting the bikes on private property; this may be the reason here.

dowlingm

Recent article on point: Can Bike Sharing Work in Cities With Monofunctional Job Centers?

In some ways I think it's not the worst thing for a public transit mode to be geared to general use rather than peak flows. All the others are, which leads to radial development and abysmal service off-peak.