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Magic

  • 03-09-2010 7:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭


    When did the term 'magic' become a verb? It is not in my dictionaries as such. I heard Alan Dukes on Primetime last night saying (about the losses to Anglo), that 'there isn't a way of magicking them away', and I have to say that it made me cringe. Has this gained common currency?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Hopefully Dukes will never become a leader in the correctness of speech.

    'Conjure' ,of course was the word he was looking for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    To "magic away" is a transitive phrasal verb, and is recognised by some dictionaries (e.g Macmillan, Merriam-Webster).

    Dukesie was onside on this occasion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    My butler has just brought me a copy of the 1981 Collins English Dictionary, and "magic away" is in that as well.

    Which dictionaries are you using, Raven?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    The Oxford English Dictionary has an entry for magic as a verb. "trans. To transform, produce, etc., (as if) by magic. Freq. with adv. (esp. up) or adverbial phrase. Also with away: to cause to disappear (as if) by magic."

    The Concice Oxford English Dictionary listed it as a verb too, albeit a British informal one. Should speakers on Primetime keep their language formal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    If they want to preserve their gravitas then,yes.

    If they want to be gathered into that great dustbin of mediocrity, hell no.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭The Raven.


    My butler has just brought me a copy of the 1981 Collins English Dictionary, and "magic away" is in that as well.

    Which dictionaries are you using, Raven?

    My Concise Oxford Dictionary lists it only as a noun or adjective.
    My Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary also lists it only as a noun or adjective.
    I only have a pocket Collins English Dictionary, but it also lists it as a noun or adjective only.
    The online Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary lists it only as a noun or adjective.

    However, I have since discovered that:

    The online Compact Oxford English Dictionary lists it as a noun, adjective, but also lists it as a verb (magics, magicking, magicked).
    The online Collins English Dictionary lists it as a noun or adjective, but also lists the verb ‘magic away’.
    The online Macmillan Dictionary lists it as noun, adjective, verb (magic away, magic up)

    I don’t use Merriam Webster as it is American English, and for what it's worth, my UK spellcheck also rejects it as a verb.

    My understanding is that the use of the term 'magic' as a verb is a fairly recent addition to some dictionaries. Like a lot of these new additions, I personally find it irritating.


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