Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

"Chipper / Jigger" Can you use them in a competition?

  • 03-09-2010 11:48am
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I know a lot of ye think they are a cop-out but i got one when i started playing golf to help gettin in from just off the green. Over the last 1.5 years its been used less and less but i still have it in the bag.
    I was playing a round there last friday and had a perfect shot for it which i left the ball 2 inches from the pin. My playing partner commented that he hadnt seen one in years and they are no longer allowed in competitions.

    Anyone know if this is true? Would hate to have a good round ruined by a conveniece club that i could almost do without now.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭conno16


    with a little practice you'll be able to replicate the exact shot with a 4/5 iron

    not sure if the club is outlawed - but it is an embarrassing club to have in the bag imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    conno16 wrote: »
    with a little practice you'll be able to replicate the exact shot with a 4/5 iron

    not sure if the club is outlawed - but it is an embarrassing club to have in the bag imo

    that's not true,the main benefit of them is to pop the ball out from tough enough rough or to get the ball over a hump or something,try doing that with a 4 iron,i know an oul lad i work with that uses them,he's great with it but there's no way the ball comes out anything like a 4-5 iron,what the loft with them normally?

    in saying that i agree,they're embarrassing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    I think they're around the loft of a 7-iron. I know a few people who use them to great effect, all high handicappers.

    I don't see why you say they're embarassing, are you both scratch golfers then who look down on others? I think some of the putters some people use are more embarassing, and are manufactured like that in order to make putts easier. So where's the difference in those and a jigger?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    Use your rescue club as a jigger.......
    Waste of a club having a jigger in the bag imo. Other clubs in your bag can do the same thing
    I can't imagine that they are outlawed. On what basis could they be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭conno16


    embarrassing - highlighting ur "crapness" as soon as you roll up to the first tee

    immediate advantage to the opposition
    good sneer item, always try to factor in to the conversation going down the first fairway


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Use your rescue club as a jigger.......
    Waste of a club having a jigger in the bag imo. Other clubs in your bag can do the same thing
    I can't imagine that they are outlawed. On what basis could they be?
    `

    that won't work,the ball pops out of rough around the green with a jigger,you won't get a similar result from a rescue unless it's around 27 degrees


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Su Campu wrote: »
    I think they're around the loft of a 7-iron. I know a few people who use them to great effect, all high handicappers.

    I don't see why you say they're embarassing, are you both scratch golfers then who look down on others? I think some of the putters some people use are more embarassing, and are manufactured like that in order to make putts easier. So where's the difference in those and a jigger?

    nonsense point.
    how long have you had your's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭L.O.F.T


    Whats wrong with using a wedge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    heavyballs wrote: »
    `

    that won't work,the ball pops out of rough around the green with a jigger,you won't get a similar result from a rescue unless it's around 27 degrees

    fair enough. never tried it but it was just a thought that occured while reading through the thread. thought I might be on to something!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    fair enough. never tried it but it was just a thought that occured while reading through the thread. thought I might be on to something!!

    i suppose some people use a rescue if the balls up against the fringe but i find anyone with a jigger tends to use them for all chip shots,that's why i don't like them,i use anything from a 6iron to my lob wedge around the green,(probaly use my gap wedge most of the time)i try to get the ball rolling asap so i'll use whatever loft i need to get over the lip of the green and then roll out,if jigger lovers just practiced a bit with different clubs i think they would soon ditch it


  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    heavyballs wrote: »
    ....i try to get the ball rolling asap so i'll use whatever loft i need to get over the lip of the green and then roll out,if jigger lovers just practiced a bit with different clubs i think they would soon ditch it

    jigger lovers = sounds soooooo bad!!!:D

    As i said in my first post - i rarely use it now and use a wedge around the green but there is that one round in 10 that it'd come in handy. I was just wondering about the technicality of using one.

    Seems its to be banished to the old clubs bag to avoid any further embarassment to myself by low handicap golfers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭conno16


    its for the best charlie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Su Campu wrote: »
    I don't see why you say they're embarassing, are you both scratch golfers then who look down on others? I think some of the putters some people use are more embarassing, and are manufactured like that in order to make putts easier. So where's the difference in those and a jigger?

    Or what about the vast number of pros who dont use a 3 or 4 iron and instead use a hybrid ,is that embarrassing ?
    Use whatever you feel is comfortable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭thoscon


    ive a mate who uses it the whole time he even tees off with it.hes a 22 hc he can hit it up to 150yds.before any of ye say its not a jigger it is coz we compared it to other jiggers and its defo a jigger
    Hes uses it on alot of par 3s.we played an open recently and his driver was all over the shop.on a par 5 480yds he decided to tee off with a jigger his theory was 4 shots with a jigger and hell b on the green and lo and behold 4 shots later hes on the green !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭conno16


    Or what about the vast number of pros who dont use a 3 or 4 iron and instead use a hybrid ,is that embarrassing ?

    any of those in the top 10?

    3 and 4 irons were designed for a particular purpose and situation
    when one arrives at that situation they should use a 3 or 4 iron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭bridestream


    1. Perfectly legal to use the club commonly referred to as a 'Jigger'
    Loft approx similar to a 7 iron.

    2. So called 'Rescue' clubs are really 'Hybrids' and it's best describe them
    thus IMHO.
    The various wedges we carry are more 'Rescue' type clubs than 'Hybrids'.
    Consider the number of times we use Wedges to 'rescue' a difficult
    situation whether it's out of a bunker or any kind of rough, etc!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    heavyballs wrote: »
    nonsense point.
    how long have you had your's?

    I've never had one, I use anything from a 5 to a wedge around the green instead. My point is that for a high handicapper, if a jigger makes the game easier for them then that's a good thing. Maybe you're one of those Sunglasses-On-Back-of-the-Head guys who cares more about how he looks than anything else. But for most people, getting up and down around the green is more important. Nobody has the right to scorn at someone elses's lesser ability, or what clubs they play. I know plenty of people like that and they're the kind of guys you love taking the tenner off at the end of a round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    conno16 wrote: »
    any of those in the top 10?

    3 and 4 irons were designed for a particular purpose and situation
    when one arrives at that situation they should use a 3 or 4 iron

    One of them has 3 Majors ...;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭heavyballs


    Su Campu wrote: »
    I've never had one, I use anything from a 5 to a wedge around the green instead. My point is that for a high handicapper, if a jigger makes the game easier for them then that's a good thing. Maybe you're one of those Sunglasses-On-Back-of-the-Head guys who cares more about how he looks than anything else. But for most people, getting up and down around the green is more important. Nobody has the right to scorn at someone elses's lesser ability, or what clubs they play. I know plenty of people like that and they're the kind of guys you love taking the tenner off at the end of a round.

    what you need to do is read back through the thread ,you'll see that you mentioned something about me being a scr golfer or something,i mentioned nothing about hcp


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    thoscon wrote: »
    ive a mate who uses it the whole time he even tees off with it.hes a 22 hc he can hit it up to 150yds.before any of ye say its not a jigger it is coz we compared it to other jiggers and its defo a jigger
    Hes uses it on alot of par 3s.we played an open recently and his driver was all over the shop.on a par 5 480yds he decided to tee off with a jigger his theory was 4 shots with a jigger and hell b on the green and lo and behold 4 shots later hes on the green !!!

    Are you sure it's not a hybrid he's using? No way you'd hit a jigger more than a few yards.


  • Advertisement
  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    heavyballs wrote: »
    what you need to do is read back through the thread ,you'll see that you mentioned something about me being a scr golfer or something,i mentioned nothing about hcp

    Ok then, so why do you say they're an embarassing club to use? Why would you not use one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ianuss


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    Are you sure it's not a hybrid he's using? No way you'd hit a jigger more than a few yards.

    I don't use one anymore - but I have given it a whallop from time to time before and you can easily fire one over a hundred yards, well over 100 in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭derra


    http://www.usga.org/equipment/faq/Club-and-Ball-Testing-FAQs/#2
    Do chippers conform?

    Yes, chippers are iron clubs not putters, and therefore must conform with the requirements for woods and irons. For example, chippers may not have a putter grip, two striking faces or appendages for aiming purposes. See Rules 1 through 5 in Appendix II.

    Have a Wilson one, was using it as i was so bad around the greens till i sought help on the thread about chipping and have improved alot.
    But if it works for ya , use it. Nothing to be embarassed about, it's a club available to use and if it helps so be it, let others worry about their own game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    "Not 'how' - just 'how many'..."

    And Conno - YE Yang won the USPGA Championship last year and I dont belief he carries anything iron longer than a five-iron - a bagful of hybrids.

    Do you think Todd Hamilton felt "embarrassed" picking up the cheque for his British Open win after using his hybrid club on just about every hole and around every green on the back nine Sunday??

    OP, if it's legal and it works - use it!

    How many people do you see who take the LW out everytime they're near the green despite the fact they simply don't know how to use it.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    ianuss wrote: »
    I don't use one anymore - but I have given it a whallop from time to time before and you can easily fire one over a hundred yards, well over 100 in fact.

    Really? Am off out to the garden, back Ina min!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GorHugh


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    Are you sure it's not a hybrid he's using? No way you'd hit a jigger more than a few yards.

    thoscon plays off 12 , i'm sure he can tell the difference between a hybrid and a jigger !!

    I've played with the lad and his jigger , he's well able to hit the jigger 150yards + , it's actually an amazing thing to watch , this lad has it down to a tee .. he knows it's wrong to use it as he does , but it works for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭thoscon


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    Are you sure it's not a hybrid he's using? No way you'd hit a jigger more than a few yards.

    its defo a jigger alright.its defies logic how he far he hits it ,people playing with him for the first time are amazed how far he hits it.a par 3 one time it was 170 uphill into the wind and he got it on the green:eek:
    he kinda turns his right hand over and the face of the club is kinda tilted forward thats how he reckons he gets the power ,only prob is when hes using the driver he tends to hold it the same with the face of the club tilted forward and he tends to hit the top alot of his drives.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    thoscon wrote: »
    its defo a jigger alright.its defies logic how he far he hits it ,people playing with him for the first time are amazed how far he hits it.a par 3 one time it was 170 uphill into the wind and he got it on the green:eek:
    he kinda turns his right hand over and the face of the club is kinda tilted forward thats how he reckons he gets the power ,only prob is when hes using the driver he tends to hold it the same with the face of the club tilted forward and he tends to hit the top alot of his drives.

    WOW!! Sorry for doubting you. Didn't get to try it last night but will some part of today just for the craic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    L.O.F.T wrote: »
    Whats wrong with using a wedge?

    What's wrong with using a jigger?


  • Advertisement
Advertisement