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BA 777 Takes Off from Wrong Runway

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Wasn't the wrong runway. They planned an intersection departure but entered the runway at the wrong intersection. They only had 4000ft of runway so Captain says to co-pilot looks short so power it up to 55%N1 on the brakes. They took off with 1000ft to spare.

    It was the local BA based engineers who spotted it and tried to tell them to stop.

    No big deal me thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    urajoke wrote: »
    Wasn't the wrong runway. They planned an intersection departure but entered the runway at the wrong intersection. They only had 4000ft of runway so Captain says to co-pilot looks short so power it up to 55%N1 on the brakes. They took off with 1000ft to spare.

    It was the local BA based engineers who spotted it and tried to tell them to stop.

    No big deal me thinks.

    No big deal? What happens if there was an engine failure midway during the take off roll and they had to stop? The runway length that's required for take off needs to also include distance to stop in case of emergency - not just to get airborne.

    The captain commented on how short the runway looked and yet they still took off. It's a very big deal in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    The authorities seemed to think it was a big deal as it was investigated as a major incident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Sorry was being sarcastic in my first post.

    http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/4-2010%20G-VIIR.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 TrackBarChaser


    We had a similar incident in Eastern Russia once. Also in a 777! In our defense it was night time, snowing and ATC spoke very little English! Ultimately it was our responsibility as the crew of course however, dealing with the above conditions can confuse the best! I try not to think about the incident much to be honest as it was a close one!
    Anyway a link for the BA incident:
    http://avherald.com/h?article=4306396f&opt=0


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Had the airport duty manager and station engineer had got up out of their seats and ran up to the cockpit in US airspace they could have easily been taken out by air marshalls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    Had the airport duty manager and station engineer had got up out of their seats and ran up to the cockpit in US airspace they could have easily been taken out by air marshalls.

    considering the station engineer is an employee of BA and the Air Marshalls would've known that these 2 were on board, if they had seen them running up the cabin i'd doubt it would've been a shoot first ask questions later.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    gatecrash wrote: »
    considering the station engineer is an employee of BA and the Air Marshalls would've known that these 2 were on board, if they had seen them running up the cabin i'd doubt it would've been a shoot first ask questions later.....

    Of course it would. Even an employee could go mad. They can't take any chances. Who's to say that the marshals would recognise an employee anyway (even if they had uniforms on).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    *Kol* wrote: »
    Of course it would. Even an employee could go mad. They can't take any chances. Who's to say that the marshals would recognise an employee anyway (even if they had uniforms on).

    very true this happened with a flight crew member while flying as a pax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvtocRAjNs0&feature=related
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Flight_705


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭rob88


    are there air marshalls on all international flights now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Alot seem to but im not going to start romours but i heard awhile ago that an Irish airline is using marshalls. Im not going to name it as its unconfirmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Ilyushin76


    Is it Aerlingus ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,500 ✭✭✭✭cson


    I'd actually reckon it'd be Cityjet given the LCY route's capacity for an attack.


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