David Deida Work in Ireland

TheBardWest

Wondering if any readers out there know of, or might be interested in, any men's groups active in Ireland (Dublin/Wicklow ideally) based on David Deida's work?

If you're not familiar with his work, his book "The Way Of The Superior Man" is an outstanding work. Decidedly NOT new age, very readable, and offers a solid base from which to start a group focused on making a difference - in their own lives, in the lives of their communities.

Myself - I have recently relocated to Ireland and have spent the last 4 years doing work like this with 2 different men's groups, volunteering for a larger organization that's related (one of the founders was a student of Deida). I'm keen to connect with other men in the community who have similar values and aspirations.

King Felix

I'm reading one of his at this very moment, 'The Enlightened Sex Manual'.

Very interesting stuff.

I'm not in Ireland, but good luck with your venture.

CDfm

What is his line -are there any reviews you can post to give us a flavour OP.

TheBardWest

Some reviews on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Way-Superior-Man-David-Deida/product-reviews/1591792576/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&qid=1284018526&sr=8-1

And a fair number of videos of his workshops on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+deida&aq=f

Will post more later!

Joni23

Based in Dublin and been reading David deida for a couple of years now though iv never met anyone else with similar interests. Would be very interested in setting up group/community if any ones up for it.

cards

I've read Iron John lately which I think is on similar lines. Its discussed more here and its worth a read.

http://www.yangtown.com/masculine-profiles/awaken-your-inner-wildman-with-robert-blys-%E2%80%9Ca-gathering-of-men%E2%80%9D-and-iron-john/

opinion guy

TheBardWest wrote: »

If you're not familiar with his work, his book "The Way Of The Superior Man" is an outstanding work. Decidedly NOT new age, very readable, and offers a solid base from which to start a group focused on making a difference - in their own lives, in the lives of their communities.

The second bold bit contradicts the first.

TheBardWest

opinion guy wrote: »

The second bold bit contradicts the first.

That depends on your definition of new age. A lot of people 'dabble' in reading Deida and in so doing, they get the impressition that he is 'new age'. In my experience, that carries with it a sort of airy-fairy, long hair in a ponytail, soft, spineless, everything is lovey-dovey approach to spirituality. New age is more meditation, more primal screaming, and more hugging, crystal bowls, energy work, etc.

While those are all valid pursuits, and have their place in a holistic practice, that's not what Deida is about. It is practical, challenging, very much grounded in the body and living a life of commitment, of action and of service.

TheBardWest

cards wrote: »

I've read Iron John lately which I think is on similar lines. Its discussed more here and its worth a read.

http://www.yangtown.com/masculine-profiles/awaken-your-inner-wildman-with-robert-blys-%E2%80%9Ca-gathering-of-men%E2%80%9D-and-iron-john/

Not taking anything away from Robert Bly, whose work is important and valuable, but Deida work bears little resemblance.

opinion guy

TheBardWest wrote: »

That depends on your definition of new age. A lot of people 'dabble' in reading Deida and in so doing, they get the impressition that he is 'new age'. In my experience, that carries with it a sort of airy-fairy, long hair in a ponytail, soft, spineless, everything is lovey-dovey approach to spirituality. New age is more meditation, more primal screaming, and more hugging, crystal bowls, energy work, etc.

While those are all valid pursuits, and have their place in a holistic practice, that's not what Deida is about. It is practical, challenging, very much grounded in the body and living a life of commitment, of action and of service.

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Dude. You don't need any of that crap nor a self-help book to tell you how to be a 'Superior Man', whatever that is. If you want to make a difference there are plenty of charitable organisations who would be glad of your help

TheBardWest

opinion guy wrote: »

... a 'Superior Man', whatever that is...

I think I was pretty clear in my original post that I was trying to connect with men interested in Deida work. You clearly don't fall into that category, nor does it seem that you're at all interested in learning more about it (or myself) before passing judgement. So, in the interest of staying on topic, please move along and troll another thread. Thanks.

opinion guy

TheBardWest wrote: »

I think I was pretty clear in my original post that I was trying to connect with men interested in Deida work. You clearly don't fall into that category, nor does it seem that you're at all interested in learning more about it (or myself) before passing judgement. So, in the interest of staying on topic, please move along and troll another thread. Thanks.

Excuse me ? Your on here pimping some self help book/course and I'm not allowed to disagree with you ? How much does is it cost someone to get involved with one of these groups ?

Oh and leave the troll accustions and thread moderation to the mods please would you ?

tbh

Lads calm down. Try not to go out of your way to rubbish someones interests and if you have a problem with a thread or post, just report it.

opinion guy

tbh wrote: »

Lads calm down. Try not to go out of your way to rubbish someones interests and if you have a problem with a thread or post, just report it.

Fair enough tbh
Thou I think its fair enough to ask how much money is involved don't you ?

So Bardwest how much would this all cost me if I were interested ?

TheBardWest

If we do end up starting up a 'formal' group, there's no cost involved unless we have to pay a fee to find a suitable meeting place. In my experience, for small groups, we've typically met in one of the group member's homes. For larger groups, we have organized hiring out a room at a local community center, for which we all shared the cost equally.

My interest here has nothing to do with money, but since you ask, I have paid good coin to go to weekend or week-long workshops led by advanced trainers, organizations, etc. in the past. I have received great value from those trainings, as they're able to go to a more deep and intense level than a 2-3 hour-per-month meeting. They're certainly something I find valuable, and would recommend to others if they have an interest and the means, but it certainly isn't a bar to entry, nor am I advertising anything like that, nor would I know where to refer someone unless he were traveling to the US for a period of time.

As I said, I'm new to the country, and I'm looking to meet up with some good men who have similar interests and are willing to challenge themselves and the other men in the group to play a bigger game in all aspects of their life. I'm happy to bring my experience participating and leading this type of work as well as learning from others.

So, figure 10 quid to buy the book from your local or online bookshop and you're set. The book is the foundation from which the group would grow, but certainly isn't treated as gospel. I also have a ton of audio recordings from Deida and one of his students that I can share.

Aside from that, the primary cost would be your commitment, time and willingness to bring yourself fully to every meeting. In my experience, this is a higher bar to entry than cash. ;-)

keane2097

Cliff notes on what this is all about?

TheBardWest

A much belated thread reply here: We have started a Men's Group (based loosely on Way of the Superior Man by David Deida) based in/around Dublin. Meeting once monthly.

PM me if interested. See http://www.deida.info for excerpts from his books, workshops (including audio teachings) and so forth.

For those wondering, there is NO CHARGE to be a part of this group, but when we eventually grow large enough in numbers, we may have folks chip in to rent a room, etc.

PK2008

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