Tractor driver killed in train collision

highlydebased

Just saw this on RTE, presumably this was the liner train

Tractor driver killed in collision with train

Thursday, 2 September 2010 13:22
A man has died after a collision between a train and a tractor in Co Roscommon.
It is understood the 9.30am freight train from Ballina to North Wall in Dublin hit a tractor at a level crossing in Co Roscommon.
The driver of the tractor was killed.
The line is closed until further notice and a bus service is available for passengers between Roscommon and Westport.
Emergency services are at the scene and an investigation is under way.

flyingsnail

A little more information here

A tractor driver died after his vehicle was struck by a goods train in Co Roscommon this morning.

The collision happened at a crossing at the Islands, Dunamon, Co Roscommon, at 11.30am.

The tractor was struck by a goods train on the Westport to Dublin line.

The train driver was taken to hospital where he is being treated for shock.

A spokesman for Irish Rail said bus transfers are in operation between Roscommon and Westport but that passenger services were operating.

Gardaí are investigating the crash.

Irish times

Rud

Neon-Circles wrote: »

Just saw this on RTE, presumably this was the liner train

yeah it was a liner train.according to a post on IRN "Loco 225 hauling 18 wagons is the train involved in the incident and has suffered minor damage around the headlight area compared to the tractor which has disintegrated I'm told"

murphaph

Was this an accomodation crossing?

KC61

Yes.

monkeypants

Why do people take risks around trains? It's not like pulling out in front of a bus or car which at least have a chance of slowing down/stopping.

Run_to_da_hills

Rud wrote: »

yeah it was a liner train.according to a post on IRN "Loco 225 hauling 18 wagons is the train involved in the incident and has suffered minor damage around the headlight area compared to the tractor which has disintegrated I'm told"

Lucky it was a 201 series and not a 22000, cosmetic damage would have been a lot more substantial.

corktina

monkeypants wrote: »

Why do people take risks around trains? It's not like pulling out in front of a bus or car which at least have a chance of slowing down/stopping.

familiarity breeds contempt. At one of these crossings you wouldnt meet a train one trip in a thousand.

westtip

Rud wrote: »

yeah it was a liner train.according to a post on IRN "Loco 225 hauling 18 wagons is the train involved in the incident and has suffered minor damage around the headlight area compared to the tractor which has disintegrated I'm told"

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Lucky it was a 201 series and not a 22000, cosmetic damage would have been a lot more substantial.

Hello, correct me if I am wrong but a man has lost his life in a tragic accident and someone is posting that the train involved "suffered" minor damage and "lucky it was a 201 series not a 22000" Am I just reading these posts strangely or do I need to reach for the sick bucket?

How about we all express our deepest sympathy to the family of the man involved and close this thread can we all show a bit of respect to the family who I am sure don't want to read on some message board that the tractor has disentegrated. So please read your posts and then think.

Cookie_Monster

westtip wrote: »

Hello, correct me if I am wrong but a man has lost his life in a tragic accident and someone is posting that the train involved "suffered" minor damage and "lucky it was a 201 series not a 22000" Am I just reading these posts strangely or do I need to reach for the sick bucket?

How about we all express our deepest sympathy to the family of the man involved and close this thread can we all show a bit of respect to the family who I am sure don't want to read on some message board that the tractor has disentegrated. So please read your posts and then think.

firstly it was a collision, not an accident. accident implies there way no-one to blame whereas clearly the farmer was in the wrong by being on the line (without ringing to be advised on train movements presumably or he would have been told of it.)

Secondly the fact that someone died does not mean that other things did not happen. people are perfectly entitled to discuss the C&T aspects of this, the fact that a loco will be out of service with damage or comparisons to other stock.

Simply don't post if you feel it inappropriate.

who pays for the damage to the train, the Farmer's insurance policy?

Run_to_da_hills

westtip wrote: »

Hello, correct me if I am wrong but a man has lost his life in a tragic accident and someone is posting that the train involved "suffered" minor damage and "lucky it was a 201 series not a 22000" Am I just reading these posts strangely or do I need to reach for the sick bucket?

How about we all express our deepest sympathy to the family of the man involved and close this thread can we all show a bit of respect to the family who I am sure don't want to read on some message board that the tractor has disentegrated. So please read your posts and then think.

Rud wrote: »

yeah it was a liner train.according to a post on IRN "Loco 225 hauling 18 wagons is the train involved in the incident and has suffered minor damage around the headlight area compared to the tractor which has disintegrated I'm told"

It was also mentioned that the tractor "disintegrated".

Grant it there was a fatality involved, and RIP to the person.

Agaion this incident could have been a lot worse had it being a "light weight" DMU passenger train (other than a 201 loco) that could have derailed on impact with a 3 ton tractor.

goingnowhere

A railcar would survive just fine, there have been several tractor vs 2700 incidents on the Nenagh line, train always wins. NIR had a 3CK demolish a tractor 2 years ago. The train returned to Belfast unassisted

westtip

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

inappropriate.

?

An apt word from a rather bizarre post.

greendom

Odd sense of priority here - I suppose at least the thread didn't read Train damaged in tractor accident

drBill

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

firstly it was a collision, not an accident. accident implies there way no-one to blame whereas clearly the farmer was in the wrong by being on the line (without ringing to be advised on train movements presumably or he would have been told of it.)

Secondly the fact that someone died does not mean that other things did not happen. people are perfectly entitled to discuss the C&T aspects of this, the fact that a loco will be out of service with damage or comparisons to other stock.

Simply don't post if you feel it inappropriate.

who pays for the damage to the train, the Farmer's insurance policy?

Actually an accident implies that it was unintentional, not that there was nobody to blame.

I would also point out that it is premature to suggest that the farmer was in the wrong, and failed to ring IR to find out about train movements. These facts have yet to be established and are not yet known by anybody. There are numerous alternative possible causes which I don't care to speculate about at this time.

The fact remains that this is a tragedy in which a man has lost his life and a family has lost a husband and father. Some of the posts so far have been insensitive and distasteful and it's disappointing to see how little this bothers some people.

dowlingm

A 201 weighs 112 tonnes and had 18 wagons behind so the momentum must have been enormous. As always in this situation I think of the poor fella driving the loco.

The reality is though while unguarded crossings exist this sort of thing will happen. No doubt this will kick off another round of "the farmer should have called the hotline", "they don't answer the call" as previous threads have caused.

parsi

drBill wrote: »

The fact remains that this is a tragedy in which a man has lost his life and a family has lost a husband and father. Some of the posts so far have been insensitive and distasteful and it's disappointing to see how little this bothers some people.

And a train driver has to live with seeing a tractor suddenly in his way without any ability to avoid same leading to a fatality.

(and no. I'm not Barry Fearne or Dick Kenny).

enda1

Anyone smell a hint of suicide there?

drBill

parsi wrote: »

And a train driver has to live with seeing a tractor suddenly in his way without any ability to avoid same leading to a fatality.

(and no. I'm not Barry Fearne or Dick Kenny).

Indeed. Naturally it must be pretty traumatic for the driver too, for whom I'd also have a great deal of sympathy.

corktina

enda1 wrote: »

Anyone smell a hint of suicide there?

no

foggy_lad

I get a hint of farmer ringing to check trains and call not answered because the lone operator is on a break or in the toilet. So rather than be held up for god only knows how long farmer takes a chance?

Rud

westtip wrote: »

Hello, correct me if I am wrong but a man has lost his life in a tragic accident and someone is posting that the train involved "suffered" minor damage and "lucky it was a 201 series not a 22000" Am I just reading these posts strangely or do I need to reach for the sick bucket?

How about we all express our deepest sympathy to the family of the man involved and close this thread can we all show a bit of respect to the family who I am sure don't want to read on some message board that the tractor has disentegrated. So please read your posts and then think.

I was only confirming that it was a liner train by using an entire quote from IRN.I was in no way,shape or from trying to be disrepectful or insensitive to the memory of the man or to his family

-Chris-

dowlingm wrote: »

The reality is though while unguarded crossings exist this sort of thing will happen. No doubt this will kick off another round of "the farmer should have called the hotline", "they don't answer the call" as previous threads have caused.

Can we try not to let this get bogged down in circular arguments please?

enda1 wrote: »

Anyone smell a hint of suicide there?

I don't think that level of speculation is appropriate. I'd appreciate it if this train of thought wasn't pursued.

-Chris-

foggy_lad wrote: »

I get a hint of farmer ringing to check trains and call not answered because the lone operator is on a break or in the toilet. So rather than be held up for god only knows how long farmer takes a chance?

I don't think anyone has enough information at this stage to start attributing blame.

Empire o de Sun

Incident is the correct word to use.