opinions on a 22/250 for foxing

dan17

hey lads any opinions on a remy 700 22/250 for foxing or am i mad. anyone have an idea of ammo cost?? cheers

Tackleberrywho

dan17 wrote: »

hey lads any opinions on a remy 700 22/250 for foxing or am i mad. anyone have an idea of ammo cost?? cheers

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=183&zenid=c8fb9425b6e3a70b10d6ef4036bf2a4d

Savage rifle on a fox flat shooting out to 300 yards

22-250 REM 55 GR V-MAX 8337
Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
3680/1654 3253/1292 2867/1003 2511/770 2183/582 1880/432

Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
-1.5 0.9 0.00 -5.2 -15.9 -33.9

Also seriously accurate round

declan1980

dan17 wrote: »

hey lads any opinions on a remy 700 22/250 for foxing or am i mad. anyone have an idea of ammo cost?? cheers

i think you'd have to get a deer licence for that. its a savage gun for foxes though, but i've no idea of ammo prices

Tackleberrywho

declan1980 wrote: »

i think you'd have to get a deer licence for that. its a savage gun for foxes though, but i've no idea of ammo prices

I know of one or 2 lads got one without, depends on super, as they are only deer legal when firing 60grainers

dan17

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I know of one or 2 lads got one without, depends on super, as they are only deer legal when firing 60grainers

local gun smith says there is no real problem getting them for varmitting anymore... just as long as u say its not for deer. its still only a 22 at end of day:D

Tackleberrywho

dan17 wrote: »

local gun smith says there is no real problem getting them for varmitting anymore... just as long as u say its not for deer. its still only a 22 at end of day:D

Yep, very little difference between a .22/250 and a .220 swift.

customrifle boards member has a seriously accurate remington action .22/250.

They are a nice calibre to varmint with.

Although ammo can be hard to get by times as they are falling out of favour with a lot of hunters.

For foxing they are great. a shade expensive for bunny bashing if you are strapped for cash though.

dan17

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Yep, very little difference between a .22/250 and a .220 swift.

customrifle boards member has a seriously accurate remington action .22/250.

They are a nice calibre to varmint with.

Although ammo can be hard to get by times as they are falling out of favour with a lot of hunters.

For foxing they are great. a shade expensive for bunny bashing if you are strapped for cash though.

well im shooting a .17 rem center fire at 1.95 euro a shot so dont think it could be any more expensive than that... must check with gun smith on his ammo price for it...and think a 220swift is more expensive than the 17 rem . or else might go down the 223 road

landkeeper

223 will do all you need if it's for foxing , ammo anywhere from 50c a pop to 1.50 depending what flavour you like and as it seems to be the 'new 22' every gunshop has fodder for it ;)

Tackleberrywho

dan17 wrote: »

well im shooting a .17 rem center fire at 1.95 euro a shot so dont think it could be any more expensive than that... must check with gun smith on his ammo price for it...and think a 220swift is more expensive than the 17 rem . or else might go down the 223 road

The .223 is in my opinion the best value for money round.
Remington UMC can be bought for €14 a box 20 and will drop foxes out to 200 no hassle, not very accurate out past that but Hornady ammo is really good in .223.

The .22/250 is a little flatter shooting in comparison to the .223 but only ~2" @300 so nothing to write home about.

Either of them will drop a fox like a hot snot.
I love shooting my .223, most accurate rifle I have ever owned and it was not redicilous money either

dan17

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

The .223 is in my opinion the best value for money round.
Remington UMC can be bought for €14 a box 20 and will drop foxes out to 200 no hassle, not very accurate out past that but Hornady ammo is really good in .223.

The .22/250 is a little flatter shooting in comparison to the .223 but only ~2" @300 so nothing to write home about.

Either of them will drop a fox like a hot snot.
I love shooting my .223, most accurate rifle I have ever owned and it was not redicilous money either

cheers tac. was in with gun smith today and 25 euro for box 20 55gr sp..not too bad compared too .17 rem. in two minds now......also i was asking bout burris rings before and u wonder the scope.. its an optisan 8-32 * 60mm ao and target turrets. still havent mounted it so dont know what it is like..it was a gift from someone so cant knock it yet

Half-cocked

Cheapest .22/250 55gr ammo I've found so far is Federal @ €22 per box.

dwighet

if you want it go for it.....
its far more superior than a 223 for long range varminting and hits like the hammer of thor.....
Do it,,,,Its a cracking caliber

landkeeper

22-250 nicknamed around here as the light switch


when out lamping one shot and every light in the parish was on

Tackleberrywho

landkeeper wrote: »

22-250 nicknamed around here as the light switch


when out lamping one shot and every light in the parish was on

I fired a .308 yest evening, and nobody heard the shot.

loud rifle+moderator=Not so loud rifle

Most foxes will be 50-250yards .223 is perfect at that range and the cheapest ammo

dwighet

landkeeper wrote: »

22-250 nicknamed around here as the light switch


when out lamping one shot and every light in the parish was on

Nice one....I like that;)

landkeeper

Tac have you heard a 250 going off in open country on a fairly still night, it is shall we say noisy :eek: it makes a hornet sound like a rimfire with a mod on it's like concorde going overhead at mach 5 ,dogs start howling , children wake screaming in their beds , curtains open lights go on , etcetcetc yabbayabba
it is a good calibre though but it'll be one that will fade into obscurity i think the 223 will /has taken over most all places keep 223 ammo now and it's cheap

It wasn't me!

A .22-250 is *significantly* louder than a .308. The .308 is not a loud round in centrefire rifle terms. It's very mild and civilised in terms of both recoil and noise. The .22-250 is a very barky round. Cracker though, would happily recommend it over just about everything else as a small game round.

leupold90

I had a 22.250 a few years ago. Flying bomb to say the least rounds were pushing 4000fps. My one was ammo fussy but was very accurate (3 rounds touching at 200m sometimes) with Winchester ballistic tips.

The 'light switch' analogy is very true also but a mod would easily solve that issue. If you wanted rabbits etc for the pot head sots were a must..

I shoot .223 now very civilised round in comparison and plenty good enough for anything up to fox size in this country, plus as mentioned by others it's relatively cheap to run.

All said though I'd have another one in the morning if possible..

bunny shooter

**cough** .220 Swift or 22.250 makes .223 look like a pellet gun :P

It wasn't me!

bunny shooter wrote: »

**cough** .220 Swift or 22.250 makes .223 look like a pellet gun :P

It's just a different ball game altogether. They're magnificent dinosaurs.

Tackleberrywho

bunny shooter wrote: »

**cough** .220 Swift or 22.250 makes .223 look like a pellet gun :P

You are correct Bunny, however for the average joe ammo availability would be my only concern.

At this moment getting .223 ammo is very easy (in some configuration)
Where as the .220 Swift and the .22/250 can be slightly harder source and less brands and gain types to choose from.

I was talking to an auld fella today that uses Wolf ammo (I know, I know) and he is happy plugging foxes out to 200yards at €10 for 20round box

He's a government artist so price is paramount for him.
He HAD a swift for years before that. He just said he could get 3 1/2 boxes of .223 ammo for the same price as his swift.

If money were no object i would say .243 for foxes (if the super nintendo was onside) over a .22/250 or a swift.
Failing that; the .223 is a very efficient and effective fox round for Irish conditions.

customrifle

Get the 250. It s the tits!!! you wont be disappointed. The federal 55 grain soft points are still selling for 20 quid a box in few gun shops(same price as the 223) and are unreal accurate. Definitely get a mod, it ll save your ears ringing and wont wake the neighbourhood. You shouldnt have too much trouble licensing it for vermin control thats what mine is licensed for. The reason I dont think its as popular as the 223 is purely down to some supers thinkin its a deer round and you cant be shootin foxes with it.

Tackleberrywho

customrifle wrote: »

Get the 250. It s the tits!!! you wont be disappointed. The federal 55 grain soft points are still selling for 20 quid a box in few gun shops(same price as the 223) and are unreal accurate. Definitely get a mod, it ll save your ears ringing and wont wake the neighbourhood. You shouldnt have too much trouble licensing it for vermin control thats what mine is licensed for. The reason I dont think its as popular as the 223 is purely down to some supers thinkin its a deer round and you cant be shootin foxes with it.

I reckon in a few years the .22/250 could be quite popular again as a foxer round

With a lot of senior Gardaí retiring the new supers "should" be more versed in firearms, with the help of Garda Google

bunny shooter

I have a Swift BUT I'd have a 22.250 in a flash but Supernintendo won't sanction it. I tried on a Steyr SSG. Sean in Stakelum's still has it I think. When we get a new Super I'm gonna try again if it's still there

CJhaughey

I think the .243 is a fine foxer if you get the right rate of twist for the lighter bullets that a fox needs.
Seems to be easy enough to get the 58gn Vmax Hornady stuff these days Factory reckons just under 4000fps for those. Which isn't to be sniffed at.
I see the .243 as a good enough compromise which will also be easy to get ammo for, 6mm are a lot better in wind then the .224 bullets as well.
My only concern shooting a lot of these would be barrel life.

badshot

i'm paying 44euro+ for a box of 20, 58 grain Vmax hornady .243
am i mad?
anyone know where it can be bought cheaper?

leupold90

Sorry for going off topic but regarding the Steyr SSG; very accurate rifle but with one serious shortcoming - the plastic magazine and trigger guard housing literally disintegrates in a short time (mine lasted 6 months) when exposed to cleaning solution, I was using Hoppes so nothing exotic there.

You then contact Steyr who eventually put you in touch with the Sportsmans' gun centre in the UK. You send them the pieces that you have left and then they post you out a new trigger guard and magazine.

Both Steyr and Sportsmans openly admit that the plastic on the rifle is affected by cleaning solution!? I queried Steyr why the continue to use this type of plastic or polymer or whatever. Never received a reply.

Again sorry for the hijack.

Half-cocked

bunny shooter wrote: »

I have a Swift BUT I'd have a 22.250 in a flash but Supernintendo won't sanction it.

You could move to a certain north Dublin city district where the Super thinks a .22/250 is the same as a .22lr;) I love to see his face if he ever saw what he had actualy issued me a license for:eek:

kildare.17hmr

Half-cocked wrote: »

You could move to a certain north Dublin city district where the Super thinks a .22/250 is the same as a .22lr;) I love to see his face if he ever saw what he had actualy issued me a license for:eek:

sssshhhhhh dont say that too loud:p

Double Barrel

landkeeper wrote: »

22-250 nicknamed around here as the light switch

:pac: :pac:

landkeeper

the question is how dead do you want your fox i had a 22hornet for the best part of twenty years i shot foxes with it at distances out to 250 yards quite happily , it loved winchester ammo and shot 5 shot groups at 200yrds the size of an old pound coin i could never get it quite as tight with any other ammo and my supply of winchester stuff ran out
i sold it and bought a 223 and have shot quite a few foxes with it , it's done nothing that i couldn't have done with my hornet ,but the 223 is cheaper to run and easy to get ammo for with a much wider choice of bullet type and weight
we all listen to lads saying this is better and faster and flatter etc etc but at the end of the day most foxes are shot at less than 200 yards far less in most instances especially whilst lamping so what if the bullet stays an inch higher at 200 a foxes chest is at least 8" from top to bottom side on similary from the front going pot hunting rabbits in my book with a 223 or a 250 is nuts :cool:

mightyabhabelle

just a quick one... can I apply for a substitue .22 for a .223 if in essence they are a '.22' Sorry if this is OT or has been asked before... -M

bunny shooter

Simple answer ................ depends on your FAO and/or Super. Some will, some won't

Tackleberrywho

bunny shooter wrote: »

Simple answer ................ depends on your FAO and/or Super. Some will, some won't

Substitute Supers for GIRLS in vid and you'll get the idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCykn0_Fh6A

mightyabhabelle

ah Tackleberry, are you suggesting that I 'give me Super a lotta loving' lmao... geezz the things a man has to do to get a license... does it hurt and should I bring some gun oil :eek:

might give it a try but need to rise the bucks first to by the bling :cool:

mightyabhabelle

landkeeper wrote: »

front going pot hunting rabbits in my book with a 223 or a 250 is nuts :cool:

Hi Landkeeper... are you saying that the .223 would make a mess of the rabbit and it wouldnt be fit for the pot. Can you use another round in a .223 that wouldnt be damaging to the meat if this is the case and use a higher velocity round for a fox in a .223

Still a rookie here so dont mind the stupid questions. I have a CZ .22 and like it as I got it at a good price. I now, like Dan17 that started the thread would like a gun that can shoot a further distance if needed..for foxes but that I can still use on rabbits. However I wont shoot many foxes, only as a need be when there are to many and taking the pheasants and as for wabbits... few and far between in my area.

So I suppose what I,m asking is, is it possible to have a .223 that I can use different amo in for different type of hunting and targets... thanks -M

Tackleberrywho

mightyabhabelle wrote: »

Hi Landkeeper... are you saying that the .223 would make a mess of the rabbit and it wouldnt be fit for the pot. Can you use another round in a .223 that wouldnt be damaging to the meat if this is the case and use a higher velocity round for a fox in a .223

Still a rookie here so dont mind the stupid questions. I have a CZ .22 and like it as I got it at a good price. I now, like Dan17 that started the thread would like a gun that can shoot a further distance if needed..for foxes but that I can still use on rabbits. However I wont shoot many foxes, only as a need be when there are to many and taking the pheasants and as for wabbits... few and far between in my area.

So I suppose what I,m asking is, is it possible to have a .223 that I can use different amo in for different type of hunting and targets... thanks -M

It's not the round that matters. It's a well placed shot that counts.
body shots destroy meat in all rifle calibres
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johngalway

leupold90 wrote: »

Both Steyr and Sportsmans openly admit that the plastic on the rifle is affected by cleaning solution!? I queried Steyr why the continue to use this type of plastic or polymer or whatever. Never received a reply.

Again sorry for the hijack.

Would a bore guide and a bit of care not prevent that problem? I got some lab bottles, plastic bottles with straws which have a 90 degree bend in them. Roll of bog paper and there's no mess

Plenty of calibres for fox out there. Down to personal preference and depth of pocket to run them. Fox won't care