New Car park

happyoutish

All I can say is fair play to who ever opened the new car park in the Omniplex €3 a day... Nice big Sign advertising it to inside the Dyke Road Car park

City Hall won't like that... lol...

dollybird2

Is it €3 all day? Where exactly is it?
I also spotted a car park I hadn't seen before near Mill Street for a euro something an hour.

happyoutish

Yep €3 for the day... its behind the Omniplex... You probably have to drive into the cinema and drive behind it...

I unfortunately had already paid my €5 in the dyke before I saw it..

Haven't seen the one in Millstreet thanks for that

Robbo

I wonder will these rates and those in other private carparks around down drive down the cost of on-street pay and display parking?

I ****ing doubt it because whoever was setting the rates had decided to set the rates in Galway higher than Stephen's Green...

magentas

Great news! I parked in town for 5mins the other day and min charge was 1.60. Then drove to Tullamore and parking in main square was 0.50per hr!

snubbleste

magentas wrote: »

Great news! I parked in town for 5mins the other day and min charge was 1.60. Then drove to Tullamore and parking in main square was 0.50per hr!

That's shocking. Tullamore charges for parking.

magentas

snubbleste wrote: »

That's shocking. Tullamore charges for parking.

shuddup! I suppose it is all relative

Xiney

snubbleste wrote: »

That's shocking. Tullamore charges for parking.

they're funding finally paving their main street

Bogger77

magentas wrote: »

shuddup! I suppose it is all relative

at least the tap water in Tullamore is potable

sentient_6

I'm confused.......behind the omniplex.......is that not dyke road?! Or do you mean that little space to the left of omniplex with the stony ground thats been a bit of a kip for ages?

schween

sentient_6 wrote: »

I'm confused.......behind the omniplex.......is that not dyke road?! Or do you mean that little space to the left of omniplex with the stony ground thats been a bit of a kip for ages?

Yea that's the place. I'm just not sure how you pay for it. There's only a sign with a number for assistance and I couldn't see a Pay and Display machine

Mrs OBumble

There's been a sign about a market there, too.

Doesn't mean that the market got planning though.

Gingganggooley

Only €3 .......brilliant!:)

Gingganggooley

I have to add, that there is absolutely no need for the city council to be creaming it, the way they are, with their parking charges. They are completely out of step with rational thinking.

ronnie3585

Gingganggooley wrote: »

I have to add, that there is absolutely no need for the city council to be creaming it, the way they are, with their parking charges. They are completely out of step with rational thinking.

Well duh, they're civil servants.

Gingganggooley

It's a shame that their occupational title does not always reflect their role in society. To hinder and not help, to screw and not serve.

happyoutish

When you drive in there is a lovely lady there.. she'll be floating around the car park.. she'll come over you pay the €3 and she gives you a ticket...

Mrs OBumble

Gingganggooley wrote: »

I have to add, that there is absolutely no need for the city council to be creaming it, the way they are, with their parking charges. They are completely out of step with rational thinking.

Parking charges are set to discourage you from bringing your car into the city. So they're always going to be a bit more than the cost of a bus fair in and out.

In terms of "need" - have you heard anything about council budgets lately? I don't recall them having too much spare cash.

And in defence of the civil servants: the employees do the will of the councillors who we all elect. If you have a problem with the polcies that they employees are implementing, talk to your local councillor about it.

Gingganggooley

Spoken like a civil servant.

what_traffic

JustMary wrote: »

Parking charges are set to discourage you from bringing your car into the city. So they're always going to be a bit more than the cost of a bus fair in and out.

In terms of "need" - have you heard anything about council budgets lately? I don't recall them having too much spare cash.

And in defence of the civil servants: the employees do the will of the councillors who we all elect. If you have a problem with the polcies that they employees are implementing, talk to your local councillor about it.

I agree that parking charges should be set to discourage parking in city centers, but if a local authoritys are making so much money from it - then they probably wont want to discourage it to much. As far as I am aware Galway City Council made €4million in 2009 from car parking down 20% on 2008 when they made in an around €5million.

lampsie

If they want to encourage people not to bring the cars into town, they need to fix this:

a) For two people, a bus in and back out of town is €3.20 per person return, making it €6.40

b) Or, I can park in Dyke road all day, plus easily handle the shopping and whatnot, for a €5. Or, I can park in Jury's or M+S for up to 3 hours-ish.

I reckon if they could find a way to do specials on the buses, something like 1 euro at weekends, it would encourage at least a few back out of the car.

/rant
lamps

what_traffic

lampsie wrote: »

If they want to encourage people not to bring the cars into town, they need to fix this:

a) For two people, a bus in and back out of town is €3.20 per person return, making it €6.40

b) Or, I can park in Dyke road all day, plus easily handle the shopping and whatnot, for a €5. Or, I can park in Jury's or M+S for up to 3 hours-ish.

I reckon if they could find a way to do specials on the buses, something like 1 euro at weekends, it would encourage at least a few back out of the car.

/rant
lamps

The other option is to actually remove some parking. Some of the onstreet could be removed or converted into disabled/elderly parking spots; bike stands or for a green space like plant one or two trees in one car parking spot on a street.
Re buses -> Ya totally agree - €1.60 flat fare is daft; only makes sense if going from terminus to terminus. Dont know why Galway cant have same policy as Dublin bus who have different pricing based on number of stages/stops you pass; plus they also have smart daily, weekly, monthly tickets. Alot of the delays on Galway City buses is that drivers have to issue change to every single passenger

Gingganggooley

what_traffic wrote: »

The other option is to actually remove some parking. Some of the onstreet could be removed or converted into disabled/elderly parking spots; bike stands or for a green space like plant one or two trees in one car parking spot on a street.
Re buses -> Ya totally agree - €1.60 flat fare is daft; only makes sense if going from terminus to terminus. Dont know why Galway cant have same policy as Dublin bus who have different pricing based on number of stages/stops you pass; plus they also have smart daily, weekly, monthly tickets. Alot of the delays on Galway City buses is that drivers have to issue change to every single passenger

That is exactly the kind of dynamic thinking that this city needs. All too frequently the lazy option is taken, where a penalty is introduced to "discourage" people and sweet f.a else is done.

Mrs OBumble

Gingganggooley wrote: »

Spoken like a civil servant.

As someone who's worked for a variety of public and private sector organisations, I'll take that as a compliment.

fwiw, I found the private sector easier: if something isn't making money you can just stop selling that product/service and put your efforts into other profitable activities. Public service roles have no such luxury.

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

Dont know why Galway cant have same policy as Dublin bus who have different pricing based on number of stages/stops you pass; plus they also have smart daily, weekly, monthly tickets.

Possibly because Galway is a lot smaller than Dublin!

I'm not aware of Dublin having "smart" (as in integrated electronic) ticketing yet, though it's being worked on.

Bus Éireann city services in Galway do have monthly, weekly and now daily tickets. Granted they haven't advertised the daily option (called a day-pass) widely, and it's not integrated across the companies. But it's a start.

Gingganggooley

fwiw, I found the private sector easier: if something isn't making money you can just stop selling that product/service and put your efforts into other profitable activities. Public service roles have no such luxury.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly my point. The public sector have the role of serving the needs of society. Yes, they do not have the luxury of being able to desert it, but neither do they have the right to manipulate our needs so that it suits them.

There was a great example of this yesterday with Mr. Aherne.

Problem= to many cash robberies
Solution= tax people to discourage them using cash?????

Do you see how lazy this sort of thinking is? How wholly inappropiate it is to coerce society in such a selfish manner? He has got a problem on his hands, but why effect us all so negatively?

It's this negative approach that I take issue with. In our case we have have a traffic problem, but charging exorbitant prices for parking is nothing more than a thinly veiled revenue generating exercise and a dis-service to those whom one is meant to cater for.

Head The Wall

You would also swear that everyone had a bus stop outside their front door. Public transport is not an option for a huge chunk of the population and these people still need to come into citys.

what_traffic

JustMary wrote: »

Possibly because Galway is a lot smaller than Dublin!

I'm not aware of Dublin having "smart" (as in integrated electronic) ticketing yet, though it's being worked on.

Bus Éireann city services in Galway do have monthly, weekly and now daily tickets. Granted they haven't advertised the daily option (called a day-pass) widely, and it's not integrated across the companies. But it's a start.

I still think its expensive for short trips. Its been a while since I took a Dublin Bus, but the cheapest far is under €1 for 1-3 stages.
Your right re the ticket types being available for Galway, also they dont have smart tickets in Dublin Bus; they are magnetic tickets. When buying the Bus Éireann monthly, weekly and daily tickets are they purchased from the driver or do they have to be bought at Ceannt station? In Dublin you can buy the magnetic tickets(not smart) from newsagents, the drivers dont handle cash/tickets at all. It speeds things up.

Zzippy

Gingganggooley wrote: »

That is exactly my point. The public sector have the role of serving the needs of society. Yes, they do not have the luxury of being able to desert it, but neither do they have the right to manipulate our needs so that it suits them.

Who says they're doing it to suit them? The city council is comprised of a management executive and a democratically elected council. The councillors take decisions and make policy, the management carry out the duties ascribed to them by the council and by the government. AFAIK the parking charges have been approved by the elected council. You have the democratic right not to vote for councillors who approve parking charges, or to lobby them to have them changed. If you don't vote, you forfeit that right and any say in the council "manipulating your needs to suit them".

Mrs OBumble

what_traffic wrote: »

When buying the Bus Éireann monthly, weekly and daily tickets are they purchased from the driver or do they have to be bought at Ceannt station? In Dublin you can buy the magnetic tickets(not smart) from newsagents, the drivers dont handle cash/tickets at all. It speeds things up.

In Galway, day-pass tickets are purchased from the driver. Weekly and monthly tickets are from Galway Travel Centre in the railway station.

what_traffic

what_traffic wrote: »

The other option is to actually remove some parking.

Its more parking we need not less, you have to remember that the whole of country Galway needs to be able to park in town when they go in shopping, its not just the few people that drive in who could get a bus that park their cars in town.

what_traffic

Kieran Great Surname wrote: »

Its more parking we need not less, you have to remember that the whole of country Galway needs to be able to park in town when they go in shopping, its not just the few people that drive in who could get a bus that park their cars in town.

More parking in the city center will only increase congestion on the roads in the city center. Its supply and demand.

happyoutish

So the Council have closed this car park down!!! NOT IMPRESSED!!! Sour grapes I would imagine... It was pulling their profit from Dyke road car park! :mad:

If any of you parked there everyday for the past few months... start making phone calls.. complain give out do what ever it takes for them to let them re-open this car park! Just remember we were making a saving of €480 a year by parking in this car park!!

Fingers crossed they will allow them to re-open in the new year!

soundbyte

happyoutish wrote: »

So the Council have closed this car park down!!!
If any of you parked there everyday for the past few months... start making phone calls.. complain give out do what ever it takes

While you're at it, ignore all the other unauthorised developments around town. Shure tis Ireland, who needs to bother their hole applying for planning permission for their makeshift carpark?

Gingganggooley

soundbyte wrote: »

While you're at it, ignore all the other unauthorised developments around town. Shure tis Ireland, who needs to bother their hole applying for planning permission for their makeshift carpark?

No, the point is that the council are refusing to allow that site to be used as a car park. There can be no logical reason for this.

The woman who runs it, told me that the site had permission to be used as a car park but it had subsequently expired and that the planner's said they would be opposing any renewal under any circumstances, even of a temporary nature. So, she is now forced to fight an unnecessary uphill battle.

Why not let it be used as a car park? It looked like a kip for years! As least now someone is trying to make positive use out of it. The local government should be helping her and not shooting her down. Gob****es.

happyoutish

Gingganggooley wrote: »

No, the point is that the council are refusing to allow that site to be used as a car park. There can be no logical reason for this.

The woman who runs it, told me that the site had permission to be used as a car park but it had subsequently expired and that the planner's said they would be opposing any renewal under any circumstances, even of a temporary nature. So, she is now forced to fight an unnecessary uphill battle.

Why not let it be used as a car park? It looked like a kip for years! As least now someone is trying to make positive use out of it. The local government should be helping her and not shooting her down. Gob****es.

Well said

And your quiet right... Why not let someone make something positive out of it... The council are loosing money on the Dyke so by refusing the new car park they know we all have to park back in there!! Gob****es is right!!!