Joey Jordison Tops Poll for Greatest Drummer of Last 25 years,WTF??

Otis Driftwood

Joey Jordison, who plays with masked metal band Slipknot, has topped a vote on the best drummers of the past 25 years.

Jordison beat off competition from Nirvana and Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl and Phil Collins to win the poll for UK magazine Rhythm.

The 35-year-old is strapped into his seat during live shows as he performs on a spinning stage which tips to a 90-degree angle.

He said he was "at a loss for words".

"This is beyond unbelievable. Something like this reminds me every day why I continue to do this," he added.

Second on the poll, which drew 100,000 votes, was Mike Portnoy of US prog-metal band Dream Theater and third spot was Gavin Harrison of Hemel Hempstead rockers Porcupine Tree.

Rush's Neil Peart came fourth in the vote with Foo Fighters' Grohl, a former member of seminal grunge band Nirvana and drummer for Them Crooked Vultures, rounding out the top five.

Former Genesis drummer Phil Collins made the top ten, coming in at number nine with around 0.3% of the vote.

Editor of Rhythm magazine Chris Barnes praised Jordison's "mind-blowing technicality and ability to bolster any project with his unique sound and style".

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Now I realise this is a bit of a bullspit poll but holy hell,100,000 people voted and this guy tops the list.Credit where its due,he is a decent drummer but the best in the last 25 years?Me bollix he is.

Max Power1

theres no legislating for people's stupidity it seems!

There have been way better drummers than Jordison. Either of the slayer drummers for a start, particularly Lombardo.

120_Minutes

when a high percentage of 100,000 voters are teenagers, are you really surprised?

a poll of 25-35 year old readers would yield very different results.

Otis Driftwood

120_Minutes wrote: »

when a high percentage of 100,000 voters are teenagers, are you really surprised?

a poll of 25-35 year old readers would yield very different results.

Ya but Dream Theatre,Rush and Porcupine Tree make up the next 3 spots,not really bands I would associate with teenagers TBH,or maybe thats where the 25 to 35 year olds come in.Either way,I call shenanigans!:pac:

Schism

It's hard to take polls like this with anything else than a pinch of salt. To me the poll says he's the more popular drummer today.

Whiplash

as big as a slipknot fan as i am i would so have voted neil peart as the greatest drummer in the last 25 years hands down

Useful.Idiot

he deserves the award for the most overrated drummer of the past 25 years to be sure.

Prezatch

Jordison is noted for simultaneously playing two bass drums

:pac:

Dave Grohl up there in 5th is a bit criminal also. Wonder where George Kollias and Jimmy Chamberlin featured. Good to see Neil Peart and Mike Portnoy getting in there

Mushy

Well Slipknot did have something on their Facebook page saying to vote for him, so that automatically rendered it a popularity contest. He shouldn't even have been on the list, let alone near the top.

Testament1

I wonder where Paul Bostaph was on that list?

jack presley

Don't Slipknot have a couple of percussionists beefing up the drum sound as well? How many other drummers have those?

Riddle101

Ah here, Dave Grohl deserves to be the greatest drummer tbh. Joey's good and all, but Dave just has the edge to me.

PeterIanStaker

Here's the Rhythm Magazne page with the poll:
http://www.musicradar.com/rhythm/greatest-drummer-of-the-last-25-years-the-results-are-in-270334


where is Dave Lombardo? wtf?

Angron

Good, not that good. Disgraceful that Peart was 4th, I blame children. Damn kids *mutters about generation gaps*

LukeQuietus

It's because nobody with any ACTUAL knowledge of what makes a good musician ever even hear about these polls because we're too busy either listening to, playing or practicing music. Look at the polls on best guitarists. Kirk Hammett won it one year. He should be banned from holding a guitar his solos are so bad. What of DiMeola, Eric Johnson, Antoine Dufour, Andy McKee, John Petrucci, Steve Vai? Hell even the cheesy Malmsteen weren't on the list. Polls will never be accurate because true musicians are never mainstream.

Mushy

jack presley wrote: »

Don't Slipknot have a couple of percussionists beefing up the drum sound as well? How many other drummers have those?

Yes, they do, but people think its Joey doing all the work. I've said it many times, if he was the one doing all that bass-type work then he'd be great....but he doesn't, so he's not.

metzengerstein

what a joke !!!!!!

RVD420

Joey Jordison :rolleyes:

Mr Ray Luzier is fast becoming my favourite drummer going today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4KLp4q-r4k

(Sorry, cant get the vid to embed on the page..)

yupyup7up

this is absolute lunacy.

im a drummer myself and my favourite band is Slayer but love older slipknot stuff too.

where are dave lombardo, gene hoglan, pete sandoval, richard christy etc.?

joey is very good but these lads are way better! I dont like rush at all and i would have possibly placed neil peart at the top.

dave grohl is the rich tea biscuit of the drumming world! average stuff like! all ill say is that if lars ulrich got in there i wouldve freaked out!

dave lombardo is by far my favourite drummer and is class

seachto7

dave grohl average? Do you play the drums at all?

A Primal Nut

I'd like a bit more input from people on what makes one drummer better than another - is it all down to which band people like rather than a drummer's ability? What makes Lars Ulrich bad or makes Dan Lombardo good?

I always admired Dave Grohl. I haven't listened to Nirvana in a long time, but I always thought he made simple songs come alive with some crazy, real heavy drumming at times; know nothing about how technically good he is, but I always loved his fills, feel, etc

lord lucan

A Primal Nut wrote: »

I'd like a bit more input from people on what makes one drummer better than another - is it all down to which band people like rather than a drummer's ability? What makes Lars Ulrich bad or makes Dan Lombardo good?

I always admired Dave Grohl. I haven't listened to Nirvana in a long time, but I always thought he made simple songs come alive with some crazy, real heavy drumming at times; know nothing about how technically good he is, but I always loved his fills, feel, etc

So many factors at play here i guess. A lot depends on what you want in a drummer. For example,Lars Ulrich is an average drummer imo,technically not great(he admits he's lazy and doesn't even practice any more) but his 'style' suits Metallica so he doesn't feel the need to excel in his field.

My favourite metal drummer is Dave Lombardo. I'm not a drummer myself(unless you include 2 pencils air-drumming on the coffee table) but i love his technical ability. Adds a whole new dimension to Slayers music. Everyone has their faves,sure even Animal from the muppets was savage!:D

A Primal Nut

A lot of old Metallica songs are very quick so I'd imagine that took a lot of technical ability in comparison to rock drummers That said I mostly listen to rock rather than metal so there isn't a lot of variety compared to metal from the 80's onwads. Compared to rock drummers, Ulrich seems technically great, but compared to other metal drummers he seems technically poor, so if we were to use technique as the only measure, non-metal drummers wouldn't be mentioned, mainly because overly technical drumming would sound bad in mid-tempo hard rock.

That said, Brian Downey and John Bonham were inventive rock drummers, although obviously they weren't active in the last 25 years. Its hard to think of any rock drummers who were particularly inventive in that period, apart from Neil Peart and Dave Grohl, so I suppose its normal that technically minded metal drummers would make up this list.

Degag

Some of Ulrich's early stuff, up to and including ...And Justice For All is fantastic and very innovative stuff considering that it was witten over 20 years ago. Even having a look at videos from that era, it's clear that he was a very proficient drummer. I've often stated that in that era he was very close to even Lombardo's standard of drumming. There's a few videos knocking him around of him playing double bass - which alot of people claim that he can't play very well - and my god, it was superb.

Where Lars went off the beat and track totally - and all this is total opinion - is around the Load/Reload era when he got really sloppy. I think this is around the time when the drug and alcohol abuse was at it's worst and that definately didn't help, but it was like he just didn't care anymore.

These days, well Lars is what he is. He does what he does properly and not much else. He definately has another gear if he started practicing more perhaps although i think he gets very tired during performances these days too and he is a lazy bastard.

yupyup7up

yes i do play drums as ive already stated.

I didnt say dave grohl was bad, but how is he more innovative/better than some of the other drummers ive listed? He's good at what he does, but he's not a standout performer by any stretch of the imagination.

Lars Ulrich is terrible. Hands down. The only album he impressed me with was justice, (he was fairly ridiculous in dyers eve..), but apart from that he's awful..

he was never close to lombardo. look up videos of Slayer live in and around the hell awaits reign in blood era (85/86), lombardo was untouchable!

john bonham was a class act and so was buddy rich, nicko mcbrain now, there is an innovative drummer! the way he plays the ride and the bass drum is pure class.

Degag

yupyup7up wrote: »

yes i do play drums as ive already stated.

I didnt say dave grohl was bad, but how is he more innovative/better than some of the other drummers ive listed? He's good at what he does, but he's not a standout performer by any stretch of the imagination.

Lars Ulrich is terrible. Hands down. The only album he impressed me with was justice, (he was fairly ridiculous in dyers eve..), but apart from that he's awful..

he was never close to lombardo. look up videos of Slayer live in and around the hell awaits reign in blood era (85/86), lombardo was untouchable!

john bonham was a class act and so was buddy rich, nicko mcbrain now, there is an innovative drummer! the way he plays the ride and the bass drum is pure class.

I'm a big fan of both Slayer and Metallica and Lombardo is probably my favourite drummer ever so i'm not biased when i compared Ulrich to Lombardo. Ulrich's studio output was always better than his live output but certainly not terrible - not by any stretch of the imagination.

Zombienosh

Hey yo!

Can we make our own polls? Like we did with albums, do one with musicians?

GLaDOS

Happy to see Gavin Harrison on the list, great drummer. Though I'd have Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy and Danny Carey ahead of him. Lombardo is fantastic from what I've heard too, though I've never listened to much Slayer, great for Apocalyptica though

Never really saw particularly special about Grohl myself.

galwayrush

Could be worse, i rememebr a poll from some years back where peart was beaten into second place by Zac from Hanson.....:D:D:D

Degag

galwayrush wrote: »

Could be worse, i rememebr a poll from some years back where peart was beaten into second place by Zac from Hanson.....:D:D:D

Thanks for that, i literally LOLLLLED!!!!

lord lucan

How many references to scary can you make?:rolleyes:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Slipknot-Drummer-Joey-Jordison-Named-Best-Of-The-Past-25-Years-In-Poll-By-Rhythm-Magazine/Article/201008415708671?lpos=Showbiz_News_Third_Home_Page_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15708671_Slipknot_Drummer_Joey_Jordison_Named_Best_Of_The_Past_25_Years_In_Poll_By_Rhythm_Magazine

120_Minutes

In my opinion what makes a good drummer is:

timing
groove


and they must have adequate technique to achieve the above. now you notice i havent included speed. well thats because, even in the world of rock and metal speed does not a great drummer make. whats the point in being fast if thats all you got? it gets old real fast.

love or hate grohl, he cant be classed as average. he may not be innovative, but thats cos he's mostly stuck in a cesspool of MOR rock with the foos, with (albeit the great) taylor hwkins backing him up. but when he can stretch out on the skins dave is a brilliant rock drummer. he doesnt need to do blast beats, and even if he cant that doesnt make him bad. just listen to his qotsa no one knows drum track, its a thing of groove laden beauty.

credit where its due like.

ChopShop

Former Genesis drummer Phil Collins made the top ten,.

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eoindrummer

There is a man named Travis Orbin who deserves to be at the top of that list...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7scPZS3zfKM&feature=related

Completely versatile, groovy and technical at the same time.

seachto7

again it's all subjective.

I notice folk here only really mentioning rock drummers as the "best ever". It all depends on what you are into. Some of the jazz stuff on youtube from Steve Gadd would p*ss all over joey jordinson and john bonham technique wise, but jazz drumming is a whole different area to rock drumming in many ways..
I do thing Dave Grohl is a good drummer, in no way average. His drum parts in "no one knows" are pretty cool.
Anyone think Vinnie Paul would be in there with the top rock/metal drummers?

Star Bingo

looked at the top 50.. i dunno, mag's called Rythm? aren't they the experts.

one example i don't understand is casual mod drummer for the Paul Weller band aka laid-back era fella from The Jam ahead of him, easy. but not at 37 like that guy.. i guess speed drummers don't feature so much as they're looking mostly at a spacial awareness combined with distinctive style ahead of rigid uniform patterns n that which don't really stray away from the basic make-up of a kit.. or something - aren't Rythm readers the experts? bless em.

Degag

seachto7 wrote: »

drummer, in no way average. His drum parts in "no one knows" are pretty cool.
Anyone think Vinnie Paul would be in there with the top rock/metal drummers?

Yeah, i'd have Vinnie Paul up there definately. Grohl IMHO is a fantastic rock drummer, one of the best ever. Metal is a different beast though so i'm not going to comment on his overall "greatness" in the genre.

checkyabadself

What a 5h1t poll. Typical kerrang viewers poll. My dad and brother play drums and they'll die when they see that poll in their monthly bible.

Chad smith and travis barker???? WTF?

Also......chris alder is missing.

Somnus

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Happy to see Gavin Harrison on the list, great drummer. Though I'd have Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy and Danny Carey ahead of him. Lombardo is fantastic from what I've heard too, though I've never listened to much Slayer, great for Apocalyptica though

Never really saw particularly special about Grohl myself.

Yes!! F*cking amazing drummer, easily my favourite.

Love Dream Theater but I think Portnoy's drumming lacks feel, he's too focused on being technical.

chin_grin

Terry Bozzio?
Derek 'One Take' Roddy?
Dave Lombardo?

Grr.

Also does anyone have a link or the morning Metro from a few days back. I remember glancing at one and this was mentioned. Had a chuckle when they were amazed how he could "play two bass drums" or something worded to that effect.

smackbunnybaby

Where's the lad from that youtube people were banging on about last month?

Where's my mate John?

This poll is a farce.