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NASA hide planets discovered

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  • 28-08-2010 12:04am
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    profitius
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    You might have heard NASA announced that they discovered two giant planets. According to Richard C Hoagland they have discovered and are hiding about 200 earth like planets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBWknk10Cc


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    Jeboa Safari
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    I doubt it, why would they hide them. It would benefit them if they found earth like planets.


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    King Mob
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    profitius wrote: »
    You might have heard NASA announced that they discovered two giant planets. According to Richard C Hoagland they have discovered and are hiding about 200 earth like planets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBWknk10Cc

    And how exactly does Hoagland know this?


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    Scarab80
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    profitius wrote: »
    You might have heard NASA announced that they discovered two giant planets. According to Richard C Hoagland they have discovered and are hiding about 200 earth like planets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBWknk10Cc

    Here is the talk by Dimitar Sasselov, not Dimitri as the learned space expert states. Pretty interesting if you've got 20 minutes to burn.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8bM8K7W_R8

    The hundreds of earth like planets he refers to are candidate planets which Kepler picks up, these possible planets must then be confirmed by ground based observations.

    See all candidate planets here

    See all confirmed planets here


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    Sparticle
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    What possible reason would they have to hide planets discovered?


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    profitius
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    Sparticle wrote: »
    What possible reason would they have to hide planets discovered?

    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.


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    Jeboa Safari
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.

    Why would they not want that? I imagine thats exactly what they would want, it'd get people interested in space exploration again and they'd get an increased budget to do that


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    Rented Mule
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.

    With the current budget cut backs drastically affecting what NASA can do (and plan to do), NASA needs people to become interested in what they can do and are doing. If they found 200 Earth like planets, they would be letting the world (and the US taxpayers) know in every way imaginable.


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    MagicMarker
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.
    Eh? :confused:


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    King Mob
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.

    You're kidding right?

    I dare you find a recent news article on exoplanets that doesn't have a variation of the words "which increases the chances of life/earthlike planets."

    Also, NASA doesn't do most of the exoplanet hunting....


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    Sparticle
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.

    Why did they launch a telescope designed to look for exoplanets then?


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    namloc1980
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    Scarab80 wrote: »
    Here is the talk by Dimitar Sasselov, not Dimitri as the learned space expert states. Pretty interesting if you've got 20 minutes to burn.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8bM8K7W_R8

    The hundreds of earth like planets he refers to are candidate planets which Kepler picks up, these possible planets must then be confirmed by ground based observations.

    See all candidate planets here

    See all confirmed planets here

    Another Hoagland theory busted!


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    profitius
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    Of course NASA would never tell porkies. :rolleyes:
    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Another Hoagland theory busted!

    Not really. He was questioning why they only mentioned the 2 big planets.


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    sbsquarepants
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the last thing NASA want.

    Would this be the same nasa who fell over themselves in their rush to announce to the world the discovery of possible fossilised alien life in martian rock samples?


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    3DataModem
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    profitius wrote: »
    Much greater probability of life, media coverage which means more people asking questions which is the only thing NASA want.

    Fixed your post.

    Jeez if NASA have proved anything over the last 50ish years it's that big announcements = media coverage = more funding.

    You've got this one completely backwards profitius.


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    SkepticOne
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    So NASA hides planets by announcing them at a conference? Not only that but at a conference that is freely available on Youtube and the conference's own website and is fully searchable on Google.

    No wonder the Nibiru thing leaked. The Lizards need to get their act together. Lets hope nobody knows about 2012.


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    profitius
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    SkepticOne wrote: »
    So NASA hides planets by announcing them at a conference? Not only that but at a conference that is freely available on Youtube and the conference's own website and is fully searchable on Google.

    No wonder the Nibiru thing leaked. The Lizards need to get their act together. Lets hope nobody knows about 2012.

    It was a private conference that people had to pay to attend. They only announced 2 planets officially.


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    King Mob
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    profitius wrote: »
    It was a private conference that people had to pay to attend. They only announced 2 planets officially.

    But you could watch it on youtube?
    The clever fiends!
    That's the last place conspiracy theorists will look.


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    Undergod
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    Sparticle wrote: »
    Why did they launch a telescope designed to look for exoplanets then?

    Because they're very good at putting things in space. They don't necessarily have ownership of or any further business with the things they put up there, any more than the captain of a tanker owns all the oil, or the postman owns all your post.


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    Sparticle
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    Undergod wrote: »
    Because they're very good at putting things in space. They don't necessarily have ownership of or any further business with the things they put up there, any more than the captain of a tanker owns all the oil, or the postman owns all your post.

    But surely if nasa didn't want people to find exoplanets they wouldn't have launched it due to "technical reasons" or even sabotaged the launch. I know a postman wouldn't deliver his own incriminating photos. :rolleyes:

    + Why would they announce these planets if they were "hiding" them??


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    namloc1980
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    profitius wrote: »
    It was a private conference that people had to pay to attend. They only announced 2 planets officially.

    But all the info in relation to the candidate planets is on the Kepler website?!? :confused: available for anyone to see here http://kepler.nasa.gov/Mission/discoveries/. Kepler basically identifies the possible signs of a planet which must then be confirmed by ground based observation. Even the tag for the mission is "Kepler: A Search for Habitable Planets". Barking up the wrong tree I'm afraid.


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    SkepticOne
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    profitius wrote: »
    It was a private conference that people had to pay to attend. They only announced 2 planets officially.
    If someone had snuck a camera into the auditorium and secretly filmed the proceedings there might be something in this, but the conference organisers (TED) themselves film every talk and make them available on their own website for download at no cost. It is these that are then uploaded to youtube.


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    Undergod
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    Sparticle wrote: »
    But surely if nasa didn't want people to find exoplanets they wouldn't have launched it due to "technical reasons" or even sabotaged the launch. I know a postman wouldn't deliver his own incriminating photos. :rolleyes:

    I never said they wouldn't want people to find exoplanets.
    Sparticle wrote: »
    + Why would they announce these planets if they were "hiding" them??

    Again. I never suggested they were hiding anything.

    You seem to have misunderstood me; this CT is stupid.


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    kasper
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    where would they hide a planet , are they not a little bit too big to hide ? maybe its a cloaking device they use to hide them


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    #25
    profitius
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    NASA has a history of hiding things. Alot of former employees have come out and talked about being ordered to get rid of photos etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNIZd5HTQ0Y


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    Sparticle
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    Undergod wrote: »
    I never said they wouldn't want people to find exoplanets.



    Again. I never suggested they were hiding anything.

    You seem to have misunderstood me; this CT is stupid.

    My mistake.


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    namloc1980
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    profitius wrote: »
    NASA has a history of hiding things. Alot of former employees have come out and talked about being ordered to get rid of photos etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNIZd5HTQ0Y

    That's Hoagland again. He says NASA are hiding planets discovered by Kepler even though the information regarding Kepler's findings (which he says is being hidden) is freely available on NASA's own Kepler website!! Take everything Hoagland says with more than a grain of salt.


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