getting dog neutered

natdog

lads thinking of getting my dog neutered will it effect him hunting he is a 2 year old red setter with a very good nose.
The problem is i would need to put him in mountjoy to stop him getting out. I was away for the day yesterday and he got out of his run by bending the bars pet trace have a right pain in their arse with me.
Any advice would be great and what would i expect to pay.

greenpeter

No offence here
Build a proper run.
Why will taking his nuts stop him braking out?

ferrete

dont neture him or hel get fat lazy etc

jap gt

dogs neutered dont get lazy and fat, change what they eat and keep up the exercise, i assume he breaks out after dogs in heat, afaik its a myth that dogs get lazy and wont hunt.. i know of two fellas with nuetered springer and pointer no problems with them

virminhunter

ferrete wrote: »

dont neture him or hel get fat lazy etc

I lost my dog a while ago because I had the same point of view, he was killed on the road while out looking for bitches, wish I had him back now:(

natdog

greenpeter wrote: »

No offence here
Build a proper run.
Why will taking his nuts stop him braking out?

the run is proper its from slane kennels 7 foot high 14ft long and 10 ft deep with a complete galvo roof and my back garden is fully enclosed with walls the smallest part at 7 foot.
my question is will it stop him hunting and sorry if i sound a bit snotty but the dog is really pissing me off.
and thanks for th replys lads

greenpeter

natdog wrote: »

the run is proper its from slane kennels 7 foot high 14ft long and 10 ft deep with a complete galvo roof and my back garden is fully enclosed with walls the smallest part at 7 foot.
my question is will it stop him hunting and sorry if i sound a bit snotty but the dog is really pissing me off.
and thanks for th replys lads

No it wont stop him hunting but it wont stop him humping either,
only thing is nothing will come of it

jap gt

the desire to stray after bitches wont be as strong, He will still hunt

jimbrowning

natdog wrote: »

lads thinking of getting my dog neutered will it effect him hunting he is a 2 year old red setter with a very good nose.
The problem is i would need to put him in mountjoy to stop him getting out. I was away for the day yesterday and he got out of his run by bending the bars pet trace have a right pain in their arse with me.
Any advice would be great and what would i expect to pay.

had a setter years ago. nothing but a chain would keep him in. even broke it once. we got him the snipe and it did not sort him! + he,l be out of action with a lampshade on his head for a week or so. so no ducks. he didnt get fat tho! in the end he never came back 1 day, never saw him again.

natdog

sounds just like mine what age did you get him the snip at dont know if that will make a difference

Rovi

jap gt wrote: »

the desire to stray after bitches wont be as strong, we will still hunt

:eek::eek::eek:


/must resist temptation to comment on jap gt's 'operation'

jap gt

that was never said

jimbrowning

think he was about 3 or4, long time ago now. if he got sent in the air at all, he was gone. lovely dog, but stone mad. even tried a radio fence. worked 4 while but then he,d make a run 4 it and sprint across yelping with the shock. all i can think is reinforce his pen ang keep an eye on him.

irish setter

some of them proper runs you can buy are pure rubbish. would be pity to neuter him cause could him to get fat and lazy and will destroy his coat. often the ones that are hard to keep in are the best but he will settle down in time.. your dog your choice but i'd move him on to someone who could handle him before i'd neuter him

natdog

thanks for the replys lads think i might hold off for the moment

Mr.Flibble

From another forum, but nevertheless on the subject of neutering dogs:

"The Australian Government and the NSW Forestry Service were presenting an alternative to NSW sheep farmers for controlling the dingo population.

It seems that after years of the sheep farmers using the tried and true methods of shooting and/or trapping the predators, the Labor Government (Peter Garrett - Environmental Minister), the NSW Forestry Service and the Greens tree-huggers had a 'more humane' solution.

What they proposed was for the animals to be captured alive, the males would then be castrated and let loose again. Therefore the population would be controlled.

This was ACTUALLY proposed to the NSW Sheep Farmers Association and Farming Association by the Federal Government and the NSW Forestry Service.

All of the sheep farmers thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes Finally, one of the old boys in the back of the conference room stood up, tipped his hat back and said, 'Mr Garrett, son, I don't think you understand our problem. Those dingos ain't f**kin' our sheep - they're eatin' 'em.'

You should have been there to hear the roar of laughter as Mr Peter Garrett and the members of the NSW Forestry Service , the Greens and the other "tree huggers" left the meeting very "sheepishly"."

deeksofdoom

natdog wrote: »

thanks for the replys lads think i might hold off for the moment

Get your self a couple of sheets of 2" weldmesh they are about €35 for a 4 X 8 sheet. Put them on over the bars and tie them on with wire.

You dog will be going nowwhere. I had to do it with a chainlink fence that my springer kept on chewing through.

johngalway

deeksofdoom wrote: »

Get your self a couple of sheets of 2" weldmesh they are about €35 for a 4 X 8 sheet. Put them on over the bars and tie them on with wire.

You dog will be going nowwhere. I had to do it with a chainlink fence that my springer kept on chewing through.

€35 :eek: Where are you buying them

Coen or Cohen Steel in Galway does them for €21 a sheet, good strong stuff now, not weak crap, galvanised. I'm sure there are other steel places around the country doing it for a similar price. Used it making Larsens, plenty good for dogs when it'd have poles as well.

jap gt

johngalway wrote: »

€35 :eek: Where are you buying them

Coen or Cohen Steel in Galway does them for €21 a sheet, good strong stuff now, not weak crap, galvanised. I'm sure there are other steel places around the country doing it for a similar price. Used it making Larsens, plenty good for dogs when it'd have poles as well.

€18 euro here in cork

johngalway

jap gt wrote: »

€18 euro here in cork

Yeah, they were that here last year but they've gone up since, here at least.

Double Barrel

I had this posted on a blog at Social IE but Social seems to be currently missing.

For those of you who have considered neutering or spaying your dog, consider the following report on the health effects of doing so... the document is a bit lengthy, but worth reading if you own a gun dog.


Long-Term Health Risks and Benefits Associated with Spay / Neuter in Dogs
Laura J. Sanborn, M.S.
May 14, 2007


Precis
At some point, most of us with an interest in dogs will have to consider whether or not to spay / neuter our pet. Tradition holds that the benefits of doing so at an early age outweigh the risks. Often, tradition holds sway in the decision-making process even after countervailing evidence has accumulated.

Ms Sanborn has reviewed the veterinary medical literature in an exhaustive and scholarly treatise, attempting to unravel the complexities of the subject. More than 50 peer-reviewed papers were examined to assess the health impacts of spay / neuter in female and male dogs, respectively. One cannot ignore the findings of increased risk from osteosarcoma, hemangiosarcoma, hypothyroidism, and other less frequently occurring diseases associated with neutering male dogs. It would be irresponsible of the veterinary profession and the pet owning community to fail to weigh the relative costs and benefits of neutering on the animal’s health and well-being. The decision for females may be more complex, further emphasizing the need for individualized veterinary medical decisions, not standard operating procedures for all patients.

No sweeping generalizations are implied in this review. Rather, the author asks us to consider all the health and disease information available as individual animals are evaluated. Then, the best decisions should be made accounting for gender, age, breed, and even the specific conditions under which the long-term care, housing and training of the animal will occur.

This important review will help veterinary medical care providers as well as pet owners make informed decisions. Who could ask for more?

Larry S. Katz, PhD
Associate Professor and Chair
Animal Sciences
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ 08901

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf

deeksofdoom

johngalway wrote: »

Yeah, they were that here last year but they've gone up since, here at least.

I bought them in Dungarvan.

johngalway

deeksofdoom wrote: »

I bought them in Dungarvan.

From a farm shop or builders providers? Mate of mine priced them locally here, haah, he nearly dropped, over €40 a sheet, so I went looking farther a field. Brother in law was working int he city with the van so it worked out great