Fencing question

max12

i hope that this doesnt seem a stupid question but i've just got some land from an uncle beside a main road tat needs fencing. i am going to puit up a barbed wire fencing and i am wondering would 2 row of wire be enough. the ditch is middling behind it its just that its low more than anyting and the road is very busy

second question. i often remember doing other fencing in the past with my uncle and putting up wire. we would put up the first row and it was tight but by the time we had the rest of it up, the first row was slack. is this because i did the top row first and shoud have done the bottom or vice versa. always made me mad when it happened.

wud appreciate any advice with this as i am doing the fenceing this weekend

paddysdream

normal practice is not to use barbed wire alongaside public roads
we usually use 32 inch ht sheep wire with two strands of plain wire on top at hammer head height (very sientific!! ) over the wire leave top one about one inch under top of stake and the one used for a line nailed underneath half way between the ground and the bottom of the sheep wire
on boundary ditches its 4 strands of barbed wire stakes at 6 foot centers
as for the wire loosening then you are not straining it correctly
what you do is drive strainer every 50 m and pull line from one to the next (using ht plain wire ) then drive stakes then strain barbed wire from one strainer to the next and only then nail it to the stakes
normally only prop strainers if putting two strands over sheep wire not usually necessary with one strand of plain or barbed
5 foot stakes ok for 4 strands of barbed or sheep wire with one stand over but you should use 6 foots for anything higher
strainers usually 8 foot smaller ones ok as turning posts
anything you want to know just ask

charityboy

max12 wrote: »

i hope that this doesnt seem a stupid question but i've just got some land from an uncle beside a main road tat needs fencing. i am going to puit up a barbed wire fencing and i am wondering would 2 row of wire be enough. the ditch is middling behind it its just that its low more than anyting and the road is very busy

second question. i often remember doing other fencing in the past with my uncle and putting up wire. we would put up the first row and it was tight but by the time we had the rest of it up, the first row was slack. is this because i did the top row first and shoud have done the bottom or vice versa. always made me mad when it happened.

wud appreciate any advice with this as i am doing the fenceing this weekend

i would go with at least 3 strands of wire and keep it as close to the ditch as possible ditch will grow through it with time 3 questions do you use a postdriver what do you strain the wire with do you use high tensile barbed wire

irishh_bob

charityboy wrote: »

i would go with at least 3 strands of wire and keep it as close to the ditch as possible ditch will grow through it with time 3 questions do you use a postdriver what do you strain the wire with do you use high tensile barbed wire

if you put it too close to the hedge , thier wont be enough room for a hedge cutter to breast in behind it , a big mistake a lot of farmers make is putting fences far too close to hedges

paddysdream

keeping the fence a little back from the ditch helps if it leaves it straighter
as there is no comparison in trying to strain a straight(ish) run of stakes and
one with a lot of turns
post driver essential esp. for strainers
plain wire pullers only thing to pull barbed wire ie the same one used for ht plain .about 80euro or so in any co op or hardware(been a while since i bought one so thats just a guesstimate)
to pull sheepwire all you need is a piece of angle about 40 inches or so long with holes bored at the appropriate distances for the eight wires ,and two bars welded on in a v to form a pulling eye for a chain(pull with tractor), plus eight gripples
strain barbed every 50m,sheep wire can be pulled as far as its possible the same as plain wire
anything other than high tensile wire is next to useless to either work with ,strain or hope to keep tight

morning delight

max12 wrote: »

i am going to puit up a barbed wire fencing

What livestock are containing? If it's cattle would you not just put up an electric fence? 1 strand would do the trick

Username John

paddysdream wrote: »

to pull sheepwire all you need is a piece of angle about 40 inches or so long with holes bored at the appropriate distances for the eight wires ,and two bars welded on in a v to form a pulling eye for a chain(pull with tractor), plus eight gripples

Interesting - any chance of a pic of this?

O.A.P

I always thought there was a law to stop you putting a barbed wire fence up along a public road ?

paddysdream

Username John wrote: »

Interesting - any chance of a pic of this?

only in the door so i will try to post a pic before the weekend
i will try to explain in more detail re. sheep wire pullers
what we use is a piece of 2 inch heavy angle about 40 inches long ie a bit longer than standard 32 inch ht sheep wire
on to this you weld two bars (pipes etc) top and bottom and weld both ends of the bars together to form a triangular shape
where the bars meet weld an eye big enough to take a standard tractor tow chain hook
not a great description but when you see a pic its very simple basically a triangle of: angle at the base and then the two sides made up of the bars
then drill the angle at appropriate spacings for the eight strands in the sheep wire
to use it just open roll of sheep wire cut off gripples if they come on the roll ,feed eight ends thru the drilled angle (about 4 inches) and put on the gripples ,roll out wire and staple it on at the far end
then its chain hook thru eye and pull with tractor
its important to pull it so as to be able to staple it to the near strainer
i usually pull as much as i can ie as long a straight run as possible ,can be anything up to 300m ,which is hard to find in a typical irish field!!!
use 130 hp 4wd and you could need all of it at times
hope this helps
only two other ways to tighten sheep wire i use are
Gripple pullers ,ok up to about 30 m or so, pullers about 60 yo yo but the gripples can be dear little buggers using 8 at a time;
Centre pullers, ie fix wire both ends, then use a pullers consisting of two clamps with rounded shoulders(so as not to damage wire) two long chains and two pullers., to use it you pull wire to the middle then join with gripples and pull the centre with gripple pullers ,this is the only way to strain if you cant pull from either end eg a fence running from one ditch to another
these pullers are quite expensive and not really necessary for most farmers
any questions re fencing just ask and will try to help or even price it for you

sea12

Yep used my neighbours one of these when i was puting up new fencing this year.

It is such a simple tool and so effective. Going to get one made up for myself.