Are People Becoming More Stingy?

I_AmThe_Walrus

Perhaps it's just my circle of friends but I've noticed that most people around me (bar family) are becoming more and more mean and underhanded.
I know people that would literally avoid you and risk a friendship because they owe you €50 for crying out loud.

For example, they'll go and have a few drinks with a friend and then when you have a few beers, they won't hesitate to invite their friend over to yours to lap up your stuff with no shame at all.
Personally, I think its only right someone pays their way. I'd be ashamed to let someone else pay for me. Even if the person got concussion and forgot about my debt to them, I'd still feel obligated to give them back their €2. I've lost a lot of "friends" lately because of this. They want to join in the fun with the cheek of not being able to pay their part.

Are people becoming more mean due to the recession?

OutlawPete

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

Are people becoming more mean due to the recession?

Yup, but .. guess they have to be in order to get by these days.

AckwelFoley

If one cant afford to go out, dont go out.

You will find people that are cheap bastards were always cheap bloodsucking bastards, its only because we ourselves are more broke we notice it more.

I hate tight arses.. i avoid them like air borne AIDS

alwaysadub

People have less money, hence they're becoming more stingy.

However,if you can't afford it, don't go sponging it off other people.

PeterIanStaker

alwaysadub wrote: »

People have less money, hence they're becoming more stingy.

However,if you can't afford it, don't go sponging it off other people.

Tell that to Brian Lenihan:rolleyes:

Sticky_Fingers

I've lost a lot of "friends" lately because of this. They want to join in the fun with the cheek of not being able to pay their part.

Highlighted the relevant word. If they have the money and are being tight gits then cut them loose. If on the other hand they have fallen on hard times then as a friend you should be willing to help them out by buying them a few pints now and then (if you can afford it and they aren't taking the piss). It seems you want friends without the give part in "give and take", which is what true friendship is built upon. Perhaps you should be asking yourself has the recession made you tightfisted.

FearDark

I think people are just... poorer tbh. I certainly am.

Spare change boss?

doolox

The round system is designed solely as a convenience for the publican and the barman who prefers to serve a large number of drinks in one transaction rather than several single ones.

I have always stayed on my own except in rare family occasions as most members of my immediate family are non-drinkers.

I find that most people do not make an issue of staying on their own drinkwise since that way you have more control and less likely to drink more than you need.

The recession has certainly slowed down the number of nights I go out but hasn't stopped me drinking.

Another minefield I avoid like the plague is drinking with workmates or the boss, I would be afraid of what I'd say if my judgement was dulled by drink. While most employers use nights out responsibly to foster goodwill and team spirit and humanise a working arrangement others use it to get information about their workers true intentions and attitudes and make their plans accordingly.

I_AmThe_Walrus

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Highlighted the relevant word. If they have the money and are being tight gits then cut them loose. If on the other hand they have fallen on hard times then as a friend you should be willing to help them out by buying them a few pints now and then (if you can afford it and they aren't taking the piss). It seems you want friends without the give part in "give and take", which is what true friendship is built upon. Perhaps you should be asking yourself has the recession made you tightfisted.

I can assure you this is not the problem. My girlfriend has great friends who she can call upon (not Irish) to get her out of a sticky situation but my friends (Irish) always seem reluctant to spend money on others.

I mean, for one of my friends to give me a smoke, I would have to give them two. I can't remember it always being this way, perhaps I've just started to observe things since the recession.

tony1kenobi

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Highlighted the relevant word. If they have the money and are being tight gits then cut them loose. If on the other hand they have fallen on hard times then as a friend you should be willing to help them out by buying them a few pints now and then (if you can afford it and they aren't taking the piss). It seems you want friends without the give part in "give and take", which is what true friendship is built upon. Perhaps you should be asking yourself has the recession made you tightfisted.

Friendship isn't based on give and take....it's based on common ground and mutual attraction.....I would never make a friend of someone for what they can do for me or I for them.....perhaps you should drop the amateur psychology and go back to the core morals you live by.

I always insist on paying my way... Don't people realise that when you don't, everyone picks up on it.?
One of the lads won 2k a few weeks ago and was mad to buy me rounds.. He was genuinely surprised when I told to keep it in his pocket and don't waste it on friends. Hopefully he took the advice like..

Sticky_Fingers

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

I can assure you this is not the problem. My girlfriend has great friends who she can call upon (not Irish) to get her out of a sticky situation but my friends (Irish) always seem reluctant to spend money on others.

I mean, for one of my friends to give me a smoke, I would have to give them two. I can't remember it always being this way, perhaps I've just started to observe things since the recession.

Then they are not friends, they are at best acquaintances and not very good one's at that. I knew a guy like 2 for 1 fag man in Uni and I copped on very quick that he would bleed you dry if you gave him the chance. He was never a friend though he was pally with one of my true friends so whenever we out I just tolerated him.

Friendship isn't based on give and take....it's based on common ground and mutual attraction.....I would never make a friend of someone for what they can do for me or I for them.....perhaps you should drop the amateur psychology and go back to the core morals you live by.

The meaning of the word friend has been totally devalued, I have maybe two people I consider friends, everyone else is an acquaintance. For example if I had £2000 in the bank and one of my friends was in dire straits and needed £1500 they could have and I would assume that I would never see a penny of it again knowing that they would do the same for me if the situation was reversed. I won't give some of my acquaintances the steam off my piss though.

padma

from reading an earlier thread and how many people defended those who turn up at a wedding without a present. I'd safely say people are becoming stingy in these recessionary times, though whether its cool to be broke nowadays has anything to do with being stingy remains to be debated.

I_AmThe_Walrus

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Then they are not friends, they are at best acquaintances and not very good one's at that. I knew a guy like 2 for 1 fag man in Uni and I copped on very quick that he would bleed you dry if you gave him the chance. He was never a friend though he was pally with one of my true friends so whenever we out I just tolerated him.
.

Interesting.

Why are people this way? It's just common decency that some people seem to be lacking. People will always take advantage of you if you let them, I suppose. I'm not like this myself and I can't fathom why anybody else could.

Mits

There is less money around and people are more stingy with it. I've stopped tipping e.g. hair cuts, taxi etc

But if you can afford to by a friend a few drinks you should. I often called for my friends to go for a drink and it they can't afford it I pay because they have done the same for me.

Aidric

Anyone got a spare fag? Sound.

I_AmThe_Walrus

Mits wrote: »

There is less money around and people are more stingy with it. I've stopped tipping e.g. hair cuts, taxi etc

But if you can afford to by a friend a few drinks you should. I often called for my friends to go for a drink and it they can't afford it I pay because they have done the same for me.

I've also done this more times than I care to remember but whenever it's their turn to get a round (after you getting three or four), they look at you like you have ten heads.

I once considered a guy a friend who owed me 200Euro. Six months passed and he told me he didn't have it yet but he was getting paid and spending money on drink behind my back.

Why would anyone want to risk a friendship with someone who's been bloody good enough to lend you a hand? I mean, there's not many out there so if you find one, why f*ck it up and avoid them for the sake of a couple quid.

Bob Z

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

Perhaps it's just my circle of friends but I've noticed that most people around me (bar family) are becoming more and more mean and underhanded.
I know people that would literally avoid you and risk a friendship because they owe you €50 for crying out loud.

For example, they'll go and have a few drinks with a friend and then when you have a few beers, they won't hesitate to invite their friend over to yours to lap up your stuff with no shame at all.
Personally, I think its only right someone pays their way. I'd be ashamed to let someone else pay for me. Even if the person got concussion and forgot about my debt to them, I'd still feel obligated to give them back their €2. I've lost a lot of "friends" lately because of this. They want to join in the fun with the cheek of not being able to pay their part.

Are people becoming more mean due to the recession?

Arright i can take a hint i'll give you back that tenner on friday:mad:

Sticky_Fingers

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

Interesting.

Why are people this way? It's just common decency that some people seem to be lacking. People will always take advantage of you if you let them, I suppose. I'm not like this myself and I can't fathom why anybody else could.

Some people will take advantage sure but there are still alot of decent people in the world, not everyone is trying to work an angle. Its strange what makes people like this, for example when I was a school I used to hang out with two twins, one was the nicest guy you could ever meet while the other was a selfish mean spirited bastard. I suppose the evil twin always got what he wanted off nice one and so grew up to be a bit of a prick. Selfishness is self defeating in the end though because if you are decent with people they will usually go out of their way to help you when you need it so it while they will happily let the stingy fecker burn.

I_AmThe_Walrus

Bob Z wrote: »

Arright i can take a hint i'll give you back that tenner on friday:mad:

lulz

fonecrusher1

Stingy?....no. More careful about spending money? Yes. Big time.

Every weekend i used to spend lots of cash on takeaways, dvds, takeaways, magazines, takeaways, online betting, going to the pub on fri/saturday, taxi's home etc. Not anymore, i'l have a few beers & very occasionally head in town for a pint but i'd say i spend about half as much on a weekend as i did this time last year.

Oh & i don't get takeaways as often.

I_AmThe_Walrus

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Stingy?....no. More careful about spending money? Yes. Big time.

Every weekend i used to spend lots of cash on takeaways, dvds, takeaways, magazines, takeaways, online betting, going to the pub on fri/saturday, taxi's home etc. Not anymore, i'l have a few beers & very occasionally head in town for a pint but i'd say i spend about half as much on a weekend as i did this time last year.

Oh & i don't get takeaways as often.

More careful about spending their own money, yours...not so much.

fonecrusher1

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

Perhaps it's just my circle of friends but I've noticed that most people around me (bar family) are becoming more and more mean and underhanded.
I know people that would literally avoid you and risk a friendship because they owe you €50 for crying out loud.

For example, they'll go and have a few drinks with a friend and then when you have a few beers, they won't hesitate to invite their friend over to yours to lap up your stuff with no shame at all.
Personally, I think its only right someone pays their way. I'd be ashamed to let someone else pay for me. Even if the person got concussion and forgot about my debt to them, I'd still feel obligated to give them back their €2. I've lost a lot of "friends" lately because of this. They want to join in the fun with the cheek of not being able to pay their part.

Are people becoming more mean due to the recession?

You've answered your own question.

But theres a difference between being more thrifty with money & being a sponging motherfcuker.

Sykk

OP: Why are all your posts negative and depressing? Seriously? Cheers up will ya.

fonecrusher1

One of the scenarios he described; his buddies come over & basically drink his beer & don't reciprocate?

Simple solutions
- get enough beer for yourself & who gives a fcuk about the rest.
- get yourself decent beer & get some cheap sh!te for greedy friends.*
- Text your mates this: come over if you want but bring your own beer, ive only enough for myself.
- have a word with said users & avoid the same thing happening over & over again.

Ive used the second solution before. Buy cheap oul sh!te that won't cost much. Tescos brand or dutch gold or whatever. They can take it or leave it.

HavingCrack

There is nothing wrong with being careful with your money, its when it steps over the line into being a tight fisted bastard that the trouble starts.

The worst was a "friend" who bought 6 bottles of water (63 cent a bottle) and brought 4 of them to the beach on a holiday one day. I only brought 1 quite stupidly but anyway. I asked would he mind lending me a bottle when my ran out and his answer was just "no, get your own". For 63 cent like...:mad:

I_AmThe_Walrus

HavingCrack wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with being careful with your money, its when it steps over the line into being a tight fisted bastard that the trouble starts.

The worst was a "friend" who bought 6 bottles of water (63 cent a bottle) and brought 4 of them to the beach on a holiday one day. I only brought 1 quite stupidly but anyway. I asked would he mind lending me a bottle when my ran out and his answer was just "no, get your own". For 63 cent like...:mad:

Why were you being such a tight bastard? :P

Pyr0

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

- Text your mates this: come over if you want but bring your own beer, ive only enough for myself.

Wouldn't most people pick up on "Cans, my place ?" as meaning "A drinking session in my house, get cans and come over"

Anyone assuming it's "free cans" is a stinge.

foxyboxer

Being careful and prudent with money is being Frugal.

Intentionally using other people's pocket and generosity to pay for you is being a tight bastard.