Question on DN012

Scrambled egg

Hey boardsies , hoping you can help me with this one.

I applied to do the arts in UCD with the DN012 course. I booked history and politics with it , and I got it in my CAO. But now im being told by this handbook I got that I have to choose subjects from the same groups. History and Politics are in separate groups, do I actually have these subjects guaranteed when I go to UCD?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

doly

You should avoid subjects in the same group as that will lead to timetabling clash. Are you sure you have read it right?

Mr.Nice Guy

Yes it doesn't seem right that you would choose subjects from the same group, but rather different groups. History and Politics ought to be a fine combination.

Anyway you should have a few weeks after you start to change your mind on what subjects you wish to do, so it's not something to stress about too much. :cool:

Scrambled egg

Well when I put down History and Politics , I used a large table , and it said that the two were able to be combined.

Heres a link to the table confirming it. https://myucd.ucd.ie/htmlemailupload/File/arts_grid.pdf

littlefriend

History & politics is a very popular combination. They won't be in the same group as if they were their scheduling would clash. You need to pick from different groups [at least you did last year].

Indie_92

Scrambled egg wrote: »

Hey boardsies , hoping you can help me with this one.

I applied to do the arts in UCD with the DN012 course. I booked history and politics with it , and I got it in my CAO. But now im being told by this handbook I got that I have to choose subjects from the same groups. History and Politics are in separate groups, do I actually have these subjects guaranteed when I go to UCD?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

The handbook says to pick from different groups

I'm doing history too xD

What else ya going for? apart from politics?

Scrambled egg

I dunno , but definitely economics , and one other , either Spanish or Geography , Im putting that one to the vote with friends on facebook

How about you , made your choices yet?

Indie_92

Scrambled egg wrote: »

I dunno , but definitely economics , and one other , either Spanish or Geography , Im putting that one to the vote with friends on facebook

How about you , made your choices yet?

Awh Good olud facebook I might copy your idea there

Are your mates doing arts too like? And I pre picked English and history

Havent a clue what else then philosophy looks sorta coolio xD

Sefirah

Indie_92 wrote: »

Awh Good olud facebook I might copy your idea there

Are your mates doing arts too like? And I pre picked English and history

Havent a clue what else then philosophy looks sorta coolio xD

Lol, I'm of exactly the same mindset! Doing English, history and philosophy. The modules for philosophy look really interesting- they even go into all the eastern religions like Buddhism and Taoism and whatnot, which is cool. But I'm picking up Arabic on the side for extra credits, and to make things less mundane!

Mardy Bum

When did this prepicking of Arts Omnibus subjects on the CAO come in?

Indie_92

Sefirah wrote: »

Lol, I'm of exactly the same mindset! Doing English, history and philosophy. The modules for philosophy look really interesting- they even go into all the eastern religions like Buddhism and Taoism and whatnot, which is cool. But I'm picking up Arabic on the side for extra credits, and to make things less mundane!

Awh really? I seen a vid for it on the website Wooo we rock **High Five**:pac: what day are you in for orientation ? :cool:

Liam O

Mardy Bum wrote: »

When did this prepicking of Arts Omnibus subjects on the CAO come in?

new this year

Sefirah

Not too sure- but tbh it’s a really good idea- if I didn't get the chance to study English and history, I probably wouldn’t bother with Arts at all

muffinz

Came in this year i think, we were the first year as far as i know! I pre-picked 2 subjects, geog and archaeology, do i have to pick a 3rd subject? The booklet is confusing as hell :S

Mardy Bum

Liam O wrote: »

new this year

UCD is getting more convoluted every year. What was the reasoning?

Indie_92

muffinz wrote: »

Came in this year i think, we were the first year as far as i know! I pre-picked 2 subjects, geog and archaeology, do i have to pick a 3rd subject? The booklet is confusing as hell :S

Someone told moi that you can pick up to six.

But I'm gussing it would be a bit odd :L:P

parker kent

Mardy Bum wrote: »

UCD is getting more convoluted every year. What was the reasoning?

Lots of people did not get to do subjects that they wanted to last year because of people being up at 7am taking all the spaces. So this year you can guarantee you will get the subjects you actually want to do. Seems like a pretty good idea to me.

Scrambled egg

Its decided , I think ,

History 20
Politics 20
Psychology 10
Economics 10

Whats everyone else thinking of ?

I'm doing history and politics also, and am pretty certain I'll be doing 30 credits in each. I really think this would be the best course of action, would be interested in hearing people's reasons for taking on extra unnecessary subjects - are you just unsure of what you really want to do in the end?

Scrambled egg

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'm doing history and politics also, and am pretty certain I'll be doing 30 credits in each. I really think this would be the best course of action, would be interested in hearing people's reasons for taking on extra unnecessary subjects - are you just unsure of what you really want to do in the end?

No way , its really surprising the amount of people going for the history and politics combination , I guess I shall see you lovely people there so

Sad Professor

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I'm doing history and politics also, and am pretty certain I'll be doing 30 credits in each. I really think this would be the best course of action, would be interested in hearing people's reasons for taking on extra unnecessary subjects - are you just unsure of what you really want to do in the end?

It's not possible to do 30 credits of both History and Politics in first year as there's really only 20 credits (4 modules) of each on offer. There's one other module of each available but you can only do them as electives and you may not be guaranteed a place. So you should start thinking about what you are going to do with the remaining 20 credits.

As for the reason for doing other subjects, it's just the way the programme is designed. It's an opportunity to explore other subjects you might have an interest in. You can also think of it as backup in case one of your two main choices don't work out.

Sad Professor

Sad Professor wrote: »

It's not possible to do 30 credits of both History and Politics in first year as there's really only 20 credits (4 modules) of each on offer. There's one other module of each available but you can only do them as electives and you may not be guaranteed a place. So you should start thinking about what you are going to do with the remaining 20 credits.

As for the reason for doing other subjects, it's just the way the programme is designed. It's an opportunity to explore other subjects you might have an interest in. You can also think of it as backup in case one of your two main choices don't work out.

I've found a link to the modules and I see 4 for history and 5 for politics. Are these core modules? Or are some electives?

edit: Jesus I'm confused.

littlefriend

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

I've found a link to the modules and I see 4 for history and 5 for politics. Are these core modules? Or are some electives?

You'll have 4 core politics and 4 core history - 2 for each per semester.

What are the politics ones?

Hmm so it's looking like history/politics/economics at this point. I feel that they will probably work the best together.
I'm unsure of how many economics modules I will need to take. If I could do the extra hist/pol electives then 2 economics modules I would be sorted.

Mushy

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Hmm so it's looking like history/politics/economics at this point. I feel that they will probably work the best together.
I'm unsure of how many economics modules I will need to take. If I could do the extra hist/pol electives then 2 economics modules I would be sorted.

You could do 20 crdits in each of those subjects if you'd like. The magic of Arts, can spread you're subjects or "limit" them.

keepkeyyellow

'If you choose your 2 majors through the CAO application form you are guaranteed 10 credits in each. The reason for this is that it’s the minimum requirements needed to study those subjects in stage 2.

You do not have to study them to degree level, but whatever you choose to major in, in stage 2, you have to have the stage 1 module requirements already completed. i.e. it has to be something you have already studied. Therefore it is a good idea to pick your stage 1 subjects based on what you think you will be most interested in.'

straight from the horse's mouth. I emailed the student desk for my friend a while back..

kev9100

Scrambled egg wrote: »

Its decided , I think ,

History 20
Politics 20
Psychology 10
Economics 10

Whats everyone else thinking of ?

I'm doing


History 20

French 20

English 20

Anyone else doing 4 subjects?

chair

While we're talking about orts, anyone know anything about the Modern Languages BA, bit lost on what modules to choose and how many languages to do!

leinsterrugby

economics
geography

now have to decide the other 2. im thinking of doing german but never did it before would that be risky?

How difficult would the maths be in quantitative economics does anyone know?

I'm thinking of having this as my third subject - I feel it would work the best with the others (Hist/politics)

Mardy Bum

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

How difficult would the maths be in quantitative economics does anyone know?

I'm thinking of having this as my third subject - I feel it would work the best with the others (Hist/politics)

Intro to quantitative economics is very easy if you've done honours maths at LC. By very I mean VERY.

leinsterrugby

what are like 2 other electives i can study that are kinda cool and interesting and real like 'university' type subjects u no what i mean like?

Mardy Bum

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Intro to quantitative economics is very easy if you've done honours maths at LC. By very I mean VERY.

What about someone who did pass maths 7 years ago

Mardy Bum

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

What about someone who did pass maths 7 years ago

Yes. Its one of the simplest mathematical modules in UCD. Go for it.

If you can't do it then theres no point in going near economics for your degree.

Pigwidgeon

I did LC pass maths, and found quantitative economics easy enough, I'd definitely recommend the tutorials, if you go to them and the lectures you'll be fine.

Excellent guys, thanks for the responses. My decision is made - History/Politics/Economics.

Fun fun!

Mardy Bum

kateos2 wrote: »

I did LC pass maths, and found quantitative economics easy enough, I'd definitely recommend the tutorials, if you go to them and the lectures you'll be fine.

I'd say its one of the few modules in college you wouldn't need to go to a single lecture or tutorial to get an A.

Scrambled egg

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Excellent guys, thanks for the responses. My decision is made - History/Politics/Economics.

Fun fun!

Exact same combination as me , except Spanish thrown in for good measure

Pigwidgeon

Mardy Bum wrote: »

I'd say its one of the few modules in college you wouldn't need to go to a single lecture or tutorial to get an A.

Not necessarily, if you did honours maths maybe, but as I said, I did ordinary level and got an A, and a lot of the material was completely new to me, so if someone struggled at ordinary level, they are obviously going to find it tricky. If you're naturally good at maths, of course you'll find it easy, but it's not overly easy for everyone.