EU plans electronic pay as you go roads and city charges.

Run_to_da_hills

EDIT: Mods feel free to move this to CT or Infrastructure.

Every movement will eventually tracked in the exact same manner as those electronic devices that are attached to your vehicle as you pass under gantries such as found on the Westlink.

"Motorists could be squeezed for millions in crippling toll charges if EU chiefs seize control of Britain’s roads and motorways. European Commission bureaucrats are plotting to merge the UK’s main traffic routes with those on the Continent to form a transport network under their control. The EC has already agreed to launch the European Electronic Toll Service (EETS) on all current the stretch of M4 over the Severn Bridge".

It will enable drivers to use a single payment account and one piece of electronic equipment by 2015. By creating a motorways, perhaps even renaming them E-roads, as well as busy highways and city centres. Another directive has been presented to the European Parliament calling for road pricing, or taxes, for lorries to reduce carbon dioxide emissions".



For decades we have seen our motorways built with [URL="[IMG]http://i36.tinypic.com/2n66xs4.jpg[/IMG]"]sponsorship from EU funding[/URL]. Now this will be the ultimate price..IE All your movements will be tracked and stored on a database as you travell across the country and through our cities

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/194716/Now-EU-plans-to-make-our-roads-pay-as-you-go/

robbie_998

if this is anything like the m50 eflow thing then i think im gonna buy myself a big harley davidson just to piss this bitchs off.

i mean really... every road is going to have a price ?

whats wrong with the way it is now ?

clearly whats gonna happen here is people wont be able to afford cars at all and will get either a bicycle of take the bus.

*now you may think take the bus is exactly what they want you to do... well kind of...... but really they hate it because while we are all on the bus theres nobody paying for road tax and so on and as a result the government will just lose millions every year !

Cookie_Monster

Article wrote:

MOTORISTS could be squeezed for millions in crippling toll charges if EU chiefs seize control of Britain’s roads and motorways.

European Commission bureaucrats are plotting to merge the UK’s main traffic routes with those on the Continent to form a transport network under their control.

The EC has already agreed to launch the European Electronic Toll Service (EETS) on all current the stretch of M4 over the Severn Bridge.

It will enable drivers to use a single payment account and one piece of electronic equipment by 2015. By creating a motorways, perhaps even renaming them E-roads, as well as busy highways and city centres. Another directive has been presented to the European Parliament calling for road pricing, or taxes, for lorries to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

Next month MEPs will debate whether to consider taxing cars for similar environmental reasons. The Department for Transport has already announced the Government’s commitment to introducing a lorry road user charge. Transport Secretary Philip Hammond ruled out a similar scheme for other vehicles but many believe he will be overruled by the EU.

All transport matters in the European Parliament are decided by majority voting. If member states market, the UK will be pressured to join. The DFT announced a public consultation on the plans, part of the Trans-European Transport Network, on August 2 while Parliament was in recess. There have been questions over why the consultation period is so short, with a September 10 deadline just four days after the Commons returns.

Furious MPs and transport watchdogs last night demanded the Government keep control of its road network at all costs. Mike Nattrass, UKIP transport spokesman and a member of the EU’s Transport and Tourism Committee, said: “Motorists avoid the M6 toll and use other roads to avoid the expensive toll charges, so where is the common sense in the EU’s plans? The EU has no right to interfere with our history and traditions by changing the name of our roads.”

Cash from the EETS and other money-spinning schemes will be ploughed into the EU’s controversial Galileo satellite navigation programme. Eurocrats want to track motorists’ positions and mileage to calculate their toll charges. Brian Mooney, of the Association of British Drivers, said: “The Government knows nearly two million signed an online petition against road pricing and I can’t see it wanting the fast lane to unpopularity.”

The DFT said last night: “The Trans-European Transport Network allows the UK to bid for funding for transport projects but does not give the EU any control over UK roads. “We have ruled out charging for existing roads and any decisions on this matter are for the UK Government to make.”

Like most EU things the Brits will just tell them to **** off. It doesn't sound to definite to me either

amacachi

Please, does anyone actually think that if it did happen that it would be "forced" on the UK by the EU? It's just a lazy thing governments do when they do something unpopular; "Uh yeah, Europe, Brussels!"

Dyr

exxxcelllent

noelfirl

This is just the same hysterical crap that the Daily Sexpest has been known for publishing for a long time now. Note, as Cookie pointed out above, the use of suggestive, un-factual language ("could be squeezed", "perhaps renaming", "consider taxing", "the UK will be pressured to join"), then there's the throw in Euro-scaremongering with a view to whipping up the usual backlash ("perhaps even renaming them E-roads", "The EU has no right to interfere with our history and traditions by changing the name of our roads") and as ever, the very last item in the article, a categorical denial by the authorities. Bish bash bosh, throw it on the website and let the rabbling begin. As for the conspiratorial tracking of movements, apart from this being at least decades away (particularly in this country with it's abundant boreens), I'm confident that my movements are so dull to be of no interest to anyone, anytime, anywhere.

DubDani

Sounds like the new System they are implementing in the Netherlands for 2011, i.e a kilometer tax instead of motor tax.

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/local_news/Kilometre-tax-gets-go-ahead_44473.html

Every road is satellite monitored, every car has a device installed, and you pay only for the km's you really drive. Using certain roads at certain times will give you a discount or or cost you more (for example taking a motorway into Amsterdam on a weekday morning will cost more then using it at the weekend).

Cookie_Monster

DubDani wrote: »

Sounds like the new System they are implementing in the Netherlands for 2011, i.e a kilometer tax instead of motor tax.

http://www.expatica.com/nl/news/local_news/Kilometre-tax-gets-go-ahead_44473.html

Every road is satellite monitored, every car has a device installed, and you pay only for the km's you really drive. Using certain roads at certain times will give you a discount or or cost you more (for example taking a motorway into Amsterdam on a weekday morning will cost more then using it at the weekend).

I just don't get this. It'll cost an absolute fortune to do this. Simply add it on to fuel, cost nothing, much much more efficient. Ok so you can't tell what type of road is used but who cares about that.

dynamick

EETS is a project to allow people to drive through Europe using the same toll tag on different countries' toll roads. That's all. If you live in mainland Europe near a border it could be handy.

http://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/28207.aspx

schemingbohemia

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I just don't get this. It'll cost an absolute fortune to do this. Simply add it on to fuel, cost nothing, much much more efficient. Ok so you can't tell what type of road is used but who cares about that.

This would be the simplest solution as a replacement for road tax and it's a perfect system in a pure polluter pays scenario (ie those driving more pay more) but the problem is that fuel costs are included in the inflation figures so it won't happen unless it's tackled on a EU wide basis.

By the way, quoting any article from the Daily Express on the EU straight faced is foolish.

Cookie_Monster

schemingbohemia wrote: »

By the way, quoting any article from the Daily Express on the EU straight faced is foolish.

quoted to point out the flaws is all

schemingbohemia

sorry the comment about the Daily Express was aimed at Run to the Hills not you