Is "The Herald" the guardian of our democracy?

Fulton Crown

There is a case to answer for this.

This paper is in the forefront of reporting against the currrent crime lords.

They name and shame in a forthright fashion.

They tackle the sleveen politicos in a very agressive style ..witness their reportin of the david Murphy / Mickey Fingleton encounter at Dublin Airport.

Is any other rag as direct and to the point.

is The Herald a national treasure....

El Guapo!

Do you work for the Herald by any chance??!!

Pace2008

Just no.

alwaysadub

Do you work for The Herald by any chance at all...


Also, i haven't heard anyone called a sleeveen in years. Brings back memories!

mikemac

Fulton Crown wrote: »

is The Herald a national treasure....

National?
Is it even sold outside Dublin?

Donkey Oaty

It's got that certain - I don't know how to describe it - you know, that certain something - it's on the tip of my tongue - that thingummy - that je ne sais quoi - ah, it doesn't matter.

But whatever it is, the Herald has it.

bleg

The rest of the country is outside Dublin.

Biggins

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

...But whatever it is, the Herald has it.

Ink?

strobe

I'll never forget thier front page headline on 12th September 2001. "Billy from Crumlin loses bicycle". Ahh the memories.

Donkey Oaty

Biggins wrote: »

Ink?

I have just googled "Whatever it is, the Herald has it" and there are only eight replies, with my post first!

When did they stop using that slogan?

Biggins

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

I have just googled "Whatever it is, the Herald has it" and there are only eight replies, with my post first!

When did they stop using that slogan?

When the STD's cleared up?

Donkey Oaty

Biggins wrote: »

When the STD's cleared up?

Believe it or not, you have just reminded me of a sketch in one of the "John Player Tops of the Town" winning acts in the early 1980s, which was broadcast on RTE.

"Whatever it is, the Herald has it" was the punchline.

I'm showing my age here.

Dean09

Dean09 wrote: »

Do you work for the Herald by any chance??!!

I am completely and utterly sick of this exact question being asked.

Mr Benevolent

Fulton Crown wrote: »

There is a case to answer for this.

This paper is in the forefront of reporting against the currrent crime lords.

They name and shame in a forthright fashion.

They tackle the sleveen politicos in a very agressive style ..witness their reportin of the david Murphy / Mickey Fingleton encounter at Dublin Airport.

Is any other rag as direct and to the point.

is The Herald a national treasure....

WHAT?

pow wow

Jeebus, how far does your 'democracy' extend - Dun Laoghaire?

baltimore sun

you're a taxi driver aren't ya?

Sheeps

Is this a troll? The only people who read the herald are working class scumbags who drink pints all day in between placing bets in the bookies, collecting their dole money and eating chipper every night for dinner.

Sea Sharp

Newspapers are sh1t.

Fulton Crown

Sheeps wrote: »

Is this a troll? The only people who read the herald are working class scumbags who drink pints all day in between placing bets in the bookies, collecting their dole money and eating chipper every night for dinner.

Eh ?

Back up that statement when you are finished your Pimms pal ?

We need papers who are BALLSY and not afraid to take on the GOLDEN CIRCLES.

You with me so far Mr Bland ?

Now you fcukin middle of the roader from the leafy lanes of D4 shut the fcuk up >>

lionela

The Hearld ..to me personally ..is overpriced and a sheer waste of money.
At nearly every traffic junction..this newspaper is shoved in your face with huge dramatic headlines which you hear about on the Radio anyway.
The worst of it is the timing of the evening issue...11.00 am WTF is that all about...I have only put down my Irish Mail and here's the evening Hearld

I stopped buying the Hearld when it went over the €1.00. As a result I saved myself €7.20 weekly in doing so. that's €374 per year Am I any less informed without this paper..no
There is the News on the Telly on the Radio on the Internet ...we are bombarded with news items..the important bits that is. To justify the excessive cost of the Hearld they fill it with extra pages of rubbish. Better reduce the silly contents by 10 or 20% and reduce the price by that percentage.

That's my gripe anyway.

Cheers

nommm

lol

Sheeps

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Eh ?

Back up that statement when you are finished your Pimms pal ?

We need papers who are BALLSY and not afraid to take on the GOLDEN CIRCLES.

You with me so far Mr Bland ?

Now you fcukin middle of the roader from the leafy lanes of D4 shut the fcuk up >>

The only thing worse than reading the shoddy attempts at journalism in the herald is reading your posts.

Donkey Oaty

lionela wrote: »

I stopped buying the Hearld when it went over the €1.00. As a result I saved myself €7.20 weekly in doing so. that's €374 per year

Did you buy it on Sundays?

Edit: Or - horror - is it really Euro 1.20?

Dave!

barf

Corsendonk

Fulton Crown wrote: »

We need papers who are BALLSY and not afraid to take on the GOLDEN CIRCLES.

>>

What paper would that be? I tried reading the Herald but apart from telling me possibly what the underworld kingpins ate for breakfast that morning it doesnt really have any real news. If it was such a hardnosed paper as you appear to think why arn't these criminals locked up using the investigative journalism that you seem to think they do? Its a tabloid full of lazy journalism from the cut and paste school with sensational headlines over middling at best articles which at times have weaklinks to the headline. Ohh yes lets not forgot a couple of photos of the next big dolly bird everyday in a swimsuit, I wouldn't even call them models more potential ex-wife for one of the golden circle that you seem to have a beef with.

Naikon

My rule is I won't read any tabloid. I barely read any newspaper, but the times is the only one I would bother with. Tabloid rags = not a fcuking chance. Gutter press paper imo.

Einhard

My mother used get the Herald free from work everyday. I couldn't figure out at first how it was allowed to call itself a newspaper when it really contained nothing of the sort. I was a naive child...

El Weirdo

lionela wrote: »

The Hearld ..to me personally ..is overpriced and a sheer waste of money.
At nearly every traffic junction..this newspaper is shoved in your face with huge dramatic headlines which you hear about on the Radio anyway.
The worst of it is the timing of the evening issue...11.00 am WTF is that all about...I have only put down my Irish Mail and here's the evening Hearld

I stopped buying the Hearld when it went over the €1.00. As a result I saved myself €7.20 weekly in doing so. that's €374 per year Am I any less informed without this paper..no
There is the News on the Telly on the Radio on the Internet ...we are bombarded with news items..the important bits that is. To justify the excessive cost of the Hearld they fill it with extra pages of rubbish. Better reduce the silly contents by 10 or 20% and reduce the price by that percentage.

That's my gripe anyway.

Cheers

The Mail and the Herald? Jesus.

Biggins

El Weirdo wrote: »

The Mail and the Herald? Jesus.

Don't even bring up Jesus - he gets The Post!

starbelgrade

I heard that the write The Herald using "plain man's english" so that taxi-drivers can understand it.

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

I heard that they write The Herald using "plain man's english" so that taxi-drivers can understand it.

Ooo... thats bad!

Johro

Ah yeah, the Herald..
With it's thoughtful headlines such as 'LIMERICK STAB CITY'. A few years back I heard the Herald described as 'that screeching madwoman of the Irish press'. Pretty apt, I thought.

KyussBishop

starbelgrade wrote: »

I heard that the write The Herald using "plain man's english" so that taxi-drivers can understand it.

Funny that, I remember my dad (used to be a taxi driver), stopped buying the herald years ago when they ran a headline story "Taxi Drivers: Public enemy no.1" (not making a point of anything, just makes me recall this ).

My knowledge of it is a bit shaky (was only a kid then), but this was years back when there was a huge controversy over (I think) taxi numbers being deregulated (i.e. massive increase in number of taxi licenses available), and license plate fees being cut, causing existing taxi drivers to lose many tens of thousands of pounds on their license plates overnight.

The whole thing also led to lots of people losing their livelihood as taxi drivers, as they suddenly couldn't make enough money to get by, and (the added kick in the balls) had to sell off their license for fuck all money, compared to what they bought it for; all with no compensation.


Anyways, so ends the rambling history lesson (and one reason why I think the Herald is shite).

Father Damo

Anyone recall the story claiming Osama Bin Laden had briefly stayed in Finglas in the 90s? :pac:

Dionysus

Any newspaper owned by that Anthony O'Reilly guy is trash - the Sunday Independent being far and away the worst newspaper imaginable.

The Irish Times remains the sole quality daily newspaper in modern Ireland. The Sunday Business Post is the only serious Sunday newspaper. You can learn something from reading both of these. Having said that, the only day I purchase a newspaper is Friday when the Business/Technological/Employment section of The Irish Times is published.

There is absolutely no point to the Evening Herald. Years ago it was good for getting flats in Dublin and part-time jobs (you'd have to get it as early as possible). Available flats and jobs can be got online now. It's redundant, only purchased by people who, bizarrely, are not aware of all the info the internet has. And those people who stand at traffic lights selling this rag are contributing zilch to Irish society.

Greyfox

Dionysus wrote: »

Any newspaper owned by that Anthony O'Reilly guy is trash - the Sunday Independent being far and away the worst newspaper imaginable.

The Irish Times remains the sole quality daily newspaper in modern Ireland. The Sunday Business Post is the only serious Sunday newspaper. You can learn something from reading both of these. Having said that, the only day I purchase a newspaper is Friday when the Business/Technological/Employment section of The Irish Times is published.

There is absolutely no point to the Evening Herald. Years ago it was good for getting flats in Dublin and part-time jobs (you'd have to get it as early as possible). Available flats and jobs can be got online now. It's redundant, only purchased by people who, bizarrely, are not aware of all the info the internet has. And those people who stand at traffic lights selling this rag are contributing zilch to Irish society.

All sunday papers are trash! The Herald is a very entertaining and enjoyable read. I can't understand why people buy arkward to read broadsheets these days, the format is so outdated. I can get news online for free (from the sites that give real news) so for me the only reason I'd buy a paper is entertainment value, something the times always gets a zero for, the Times is a boring outdated relic

Biggins

Greyfox wrote: »

All sunday papers are trash! The Herald is a very entertaining and enjoyable read. I can't understand why people buy arkward to read broadsheets these days, the format is so outdated. I can get news online for free (from the sites that give real news) so for me the only reason I'd buy a paper is entertainment value, something the times always gets a zero for, the Times is a boring outdated relic

I have avoided the Sunday papers especially the last few years as they have steadily worsened in regards to just filling themselves with brainless fodder for the masses.
However I have to say The English Times is vast different (and far, far superior in layout and content to the Irish Times).
Absolutely packed with educational and informative articles to suit all, it covers all age groups.
Just a pity more don't give it a chance. If they did they might just learn something rather than just the usual Paris Hilton/Spears/whoever gossip rubbish.

An example of yesterdays Sunday Times: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2875/wwwthesundaytimescoukst.jpg

Terry

Sheeps wrote: »

Is this a troll?

Let me see.

Sheeps wrote: »

The only people who read the herald are working class scumbags who drink pints all day in between placing bets in the bookies, collecting their dole money and eating chipper every night for dinner.

Hmm. I would have to say that, in my opinion, it is.

Prof.Badass

Newspapers* are actually destroying democracy.

By whipping up anger and hysteria they make more profit, which sounds great! But the downside of this is that in a democracy, a misinformed populace leads to bad, sometimes disastrous political decisions .

*I would have said "tabloids", but let's be honest, it's not just the tabloids at it .

Strangely enough, the metro-herald manages to be both interesting and non-rage inducing .

Internet for all your news (preferably discussion groups such as after hours :cool:)!

Fulton Crown

A lot of intellectual snobbery in this thread this poster would opine.

Look ! The Herald is a plain simple paper that tells it as it is....unlike The Irish Times it does not whiff of lavender and the leafy lanes of South Dublin !

It is straight up/no nonsense/no gilding the lilly...facts facts facts paper.

I like the way they attack shysters like Callelly/Fingleton/Molloy/Fitzpatrick et all and are not afraid to arsk the hard question.

Now whats so wrong about that - the Herald is a nice modern urban read and deserves our support.

And...no...I do not work fer the Herald