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Callelry in new milage controversey

  • 22-08-2010 4:15pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭


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    Senator Callely in new mileage controversy
    Sunday, 22 August 2010 14:08
    Senator Ivor Callely is in the glare of the public eye again over fresh allegations about his expenses.

    In a report in today's Sunday's Tribune, it is claimed the Senator received more than €80,000 in mileage subsistence over two years, while he was a junior minister.

    According to the report, Mr Callely filed for the maximum mileage allowance of 5,000 miles per month during this post, even though he lived less than three miles from his office.

    Poor Ivor, he must've had some driving to do.

    he'l be playing the victim again


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭bazmaiden


    What a legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,795 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    What kind of system do we have in place when there is nobody who can sack him from his post.

    Edit:

    Title could do with correction. I thought it was about Minister Dara callery due to spelling


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    why didnt the civil servants that were processing these claims question it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    bazmaiden wrote: »
    What a legend

    Bertie's a bigger legend, getting tax free status on his autobiography, highly unetichal, but not illegal after he changed the rules.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Johnny Bitte


    Typhoon. wrote: »
    why didnt the civil servants that were processing these claims question it?

    Thats the real question.

    How is it even possible for them to claim so much in the first place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,685 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    they should make him pay it all back with interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Typhoon. wrote: »
    why didnt the civil servants that were processing these claims question it?

    That task probably wasn't in their Job Description.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭bazmaiden


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Bertie's a bigger legend, getting tax free status on his autobiography, highly unetichal, but not illegal after he changed the rules.

    +1 he is a hero alright


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    mickdw wrote: »


    Title could do with correction. I thought it was about Minister Dara callery due to spelling

    sorry mick no can do, perhaps a mod can alter it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    mickdw wrote: »
    What kind of system do we have in place when there is nobody who can sack him from his post.

    The kind of system that they put in place themselves to ensure they could never be sacked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    des omalley was expelled in 48 hours, for 'conduct unbecoming' from fianna fail in 1985 for refusing to vote against a contraceptive bill,

    why is ivor callelly still not expelled from fianna fail?

    5000 miles a month in dublin, at 30mph
    is 8 hours driving a day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Learn to spell his name before starting a thread against him.


    Gombeen man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Learn to spell his name before starting a thread against him.

    Gombeen man.

    I'm confused, gombeen man is your signature?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Not only should Callely be sacked and brought up on criminal charges, but Dermot Ahern should stand down or be sacked also for not acting as minister for justice seeing as fraud has been committed on a serious scale by members of his own party. Some minister for justice he is.

    If it was you or me who defrauded our employers, whether we are in the public or private sector we would be brought up on criminal charges. It just goes to show the injustice in Ireland between the different classes.

    But whats worse about this whole affair, is the Irish public do nothing about it. We are being screwed left right and centre, and yet we just get on with the daily grind and let those cowboys in charge away with anything. Their all laughing at us.

    I say a group of us from boards go make a citizens arrest on Ivor Callely. I'll bring the duck tap.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    How could anyone rack up €5,000 worth of mileage in a month, every single month of the year?? I'd say there are plenty other politicians with similar skeletons in the closet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Callely also claimed mobile phone expenses of €3,000 despite the fact that the phone company - which he claimed the expenses were paid to - closed down over a decade before the claims were submitted.

    The man is a f*cking thief & a liar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    How could anyone rack up €5,000 worth of mileage in a month, every single month of the year?? I'd say there are plenty other politicians with similar skeletons in the closet.

    Its 5000 miles in a month not £5000 in a month.

    80k over 2 years works out at £3333.33 (still a ridiculously high figure)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Jeasus, what next!

    I'm so sick of hearing about this mans latest stunt and getting away with it that if I though he would be actually seriously held to account, I'd eat the contents of a boiled sheeps bollox over a bed of two week old rotting dead swill pigs!
    ...Then I'd scratch my eyeballs out with a six inch rusty nail because I wouldn't trust my eyes for actually seeing him being punished!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    If Ivor Callely drives himself off a pier, can he claim expenses? One way trip and all that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    So whats the total so far he has screwed out of the state ...that we know of?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    If Ivor Callely drives himself off a pier, can he claim expenses? One way trip and all that.

    If Ivor Callely died, he'd probably still find some way to claim expenses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Biggins wrote: »
    So whats the total so far he has screwed out of the state ...that we know of?

    One Million Dollars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    Even if nothing can be done to remove him (which in itself beggars belief), you think the guy would put his hands up and step down. Utter cheek and a disgrace of a man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    tommy21 wrote: »
    Even if nothing can be done to remove him (which in itself beggars belief), you think the guy would put his hands up and step down. Utter cheek and a disgrace of a man.
    Not a chance of him stepping down.
    He needs the job like life itself.
    He is now to heavily steeped in money owed to others that he needs the Senate payroll just to help keep himself afloat and creditors off his back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    Biggins wrote: »
    Not a chance of him stepping down.
    He needs the job like life itself.
    He is now to heavily steeped in money owed to others that he needs the Senate payroll just to help keep himself afloat and creditors off his back.

    A man who worked in the Pale
    Submitted his costs without fail.
    Such an enterprising chap,
    Must now take the rap,
    He's been to Cork once by rail.


    (FYI Already submitted it to that Irish Times limerick comp for the enterprising among you :D)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    I'll bring the duck tap.

    I fail to see how water fowl will aid you in this citizens arrest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    there is a horrible black chasm opening up between the elite and the ordinary
    person in this country

    i fear for the stability of this state if this continues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    coyle wrote: »
    Just for clarity, here's the map of his house, to his constituency office to Leinster house. 4.4 miles all told.

    Ok, so assuming he spends 23 days at "work" (maximum # of weekdays in a month), thats 217.391 miles each workday. So half that is roughly 108.6 miles each way.

    So he drove to work each day via Navan, by my estimation.


    Its just another part of the "Ivor* ther chancer" mosaic, if he can claim it he will. If he needs proof, he forges it. He is mainly to blame, but who the hell was overseeing the expenses all these ministers and senators are racking up?? Is there any overseeing or is it just "Ah sure they be working hard, they earned it lads" in the loony land the politicians live??

    And reason he hasnt been kicked from FF is either:

    A) he has dirt on them, and best to let him keep his Senator monies and expenses to keep him quiet.

    B) he hasnt doen anything to threaten FF's grasp on law-making or votes, like a TD who went against them. FF know the Senate is just as worthless as we do so couldnt give a damn, as long as it doesnt affect NAMA or whtever they are s***ting on our heads next.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    when i hear about politician fiddling the system, I'm as surpised as I would be if I left a kid in a closed room with a box of matches...much the same comment applies to the how the banks kept unsustainably lending - there was no regulation of them.

    They should have a system similar to the states- all expenses be published online: http://disbursements.house.gov/ THere'd be no oblique screwing of the system then....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 852 ✭✭✭moonpurple


    Callely claimed 5,000 miles a month while living in Dublin
    Former junior minister was paid maximum €87,000 in mileage payments over two years
    Ken Foxe, Public Affairs Correspondent

    Ivor Callely: currently the subject of three separate investigations into claims for mobile phones
    Ivor Callely claimed 5,000 miles per month in expenses during his term as junior minister at the Department of Health even though he lived less than three miles from his office.

    Callely was paid more than €87,000 in mileage payments while serving in the department between 2002 and 2004, according to figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune.

    He claimed for the 5,000 miles – the maximum allowed – even when he had been out of the country on government business, including March 2003 when he was away for at least eight days on trips to France, England, Malta and Slovakia

    During May of that year, he spent seven days in the US, and once again claimed for the maximum mileage allowed. On that basis, Callely claimed for 5,000 miles over a 24-day period, the equivalent of a round trip to Belfast every single day, including weekends.

    Callely is currently the subject of three separate investigations into claims for mobile phones which were submitted on receipts from a company that had ceased trading.

    It was reported yesterday that the Fianna Fáil politician has sought an extra fortnight to prepare his defence ahead of an inquiry by the Seanad committee on members' interests.

    Callely is also the subject of a separate investigation by his own party and has already been suspended from the Seanad over mileage claims from a holiday home in Co Cork.

    Fine Gael's Leo Varadkar said: "Obviously, a junior minister would have mileage costs but this certainly sounds like it is more of the same from Callely.

    "It's clear that he took advantage of every position he had to make as much as he could and his resignation is long past overdue.

    "The new expenses system has cleaned up a lot of the areas that could be abused but unfortunately these controversies make it seem as if nothing has changed."

    The figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune show that Callely claimed a massive €123,221 in expenses over the course of 26 months.

    On one trip to New York and Washington DC, a limousine was made available to him – sometimes for more than 12 hours a day – at a cost of more than €5,000.

    Four days of limousine hire in the American capital cost a total of $3,852, which included a gratuity of $489 and a further $96 in car phone charges.

    Callely made frequent use of VIP lounges with bills of up to €437 run up at airports. Almost €12,000 was also paid out for limousines on his various trips abroad.

    Also included in his expense claims were seven separate flights to Cork, each relating to "official business". Callely's controversial €650,000 holiday home at Kilcrohane on the Sheep's Head Peninsula is also in Co Cork.

    The Fianna Fáil senator also made more than a dozen claims for dining expenses that were run up at the restaurant in Leinster House.

    The claims were queried by the department whether they were in fact "personal expenditure" but were eventually paid out.

    On another occasion, Senator Callely held a function for 25 people at Fadó restaurant in Dublin, which ended up costing a total of €2,257. That included a food bill of €1,312.50, a drinks bill of €739.50, and a tip for €205.20, all paid for by the taxpayer.

    Callely was not available to comment on the latest expense claims, which were released under the Freedom of Information Act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    the cash cow that is Irish politics needs to be slaughtered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    moonpurple wrote: »
    Callely claimed 5,000 miles a month while living in Dublin
    Former junior minister was paid maximum €87,000 in mileage payments over two years
    Ken Foxe, Public Affairs Correspondent

    Ivor Callely: currently the subject of three separate investigations into claims for mobile phones
    Ivor Callely claimed 5,000 miles per month in expenses during his term as junior minister at the Department of Health even though he lived less than three miles from his office.

    Callely was paid more than €87,000 in mileage payments while serving in the department between 2002 and 2004, according to figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune.

    He claimed for the 5,000 miles – the maximum allowed – even when he had been out of the country on government business, including March 2003 when he was away for at least eight days on trips to France, England, Malta and Slovakia

    During May of that year, he spent seven days in the US, and once again claimed for the maximum mileage allowed. On that basis, Callely claimed for 5,000 miles over a 24-day period, the equivalent of a round trip to Belfast every single day, including weekends.

    Callely is currently the subject of three separate investigations into claims for mobile phones which were submitted on receipts from a company that had ceased trading.

    It was reported yesterday that the Fianna Fáil politician has sought an extra fortnight to prepare his defence ahead of an inquiry by the Seanad committee on members' interests.

    Callely is also the subject of a separate investigation by his own party and has already been suspended from the Seanad over mileage claims from a holiday home in Co Cork.

    Fine Gael's Leo Varadkar said: "Obviously, a junior minister would have mileage costs but this certainly sounds like it is more of the same from Callely.

    "It's clear that he took advantage of every position he had to make as much as he could and his resignation is long past overdue.

    "The new expenses system has cleaned up a lot of the areas that could be abused but unfortunately these controversies make it seem as if nothing has changed."

    The figures obtained by the Sunday Tribune show that Callely claimed a massive €123,221 in expenses over the course of 26 months.

    On one trip to New York and Washington DC, a limousine was made available to him – sometimes for more than 12 hours a day – at a cost of more than €5,000.

    Four days of limousine hire in the American capital cost a total of $3,852, which included a gratuity of $489 and a further $96 in car phone charges.

    Callely made frequent use of VIP lounges with bills of up to €437 run up at airports. Almost €12,000 was also paid out for limousines on his various trips abroad.

    Also included in his expense claims were seven separate flights to Cork, each relating to "official business". Callely's controversial €650,000 holiday home at Kilcrohane on the Sheep's Head Peninsula is also in Co Cork.

    The Fianna Fáil senator also made more than a dozen claims for dining expenses that were run up at the restaurant in Leinster House.

    The claims were queried by the department whether they were in fact "personal expenditure" but were eventually paid out.

    On another occasion, Senator Callely held a function for 25 people at Fadó restaurant in Dublin, which ended up costing a total of €2,257. That included a food bill of €1,312.50, a drinks bill of €739.50, and a tip for €205.20, all paid for by the taxpayer.

    Callely was not available to comment on the latest expense claims, which were released under the Freedom of Information Act.

    I cant put into words how much this post disgusts me:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Crook.

    Slimy, weaselly, crook.

    I know the media are probably focusing on this...insect, but that's because he's an easy target, because he's made a **** of so many things.

    Its probably not going to do an awful lot, but I'm going to send an email registering my disgust, and I'd advise everyone to do the same.

    I wonder, if I rang 999, and said I knew of a theft in progress, would they respond?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    omahaid wrote: »
    I'm confused, gombeen man is your signature?


    There, in microcosm is the Oooirish attitude .

    Some poster who doesn't, like myself , like Ivor Callelly, posts a derogatory post and uses a thread title which spells the man's name wrongly.


    Someone like myself ,who ,while not having any regard for the man, berates the poster for not having the common sense or balls to spell his name correctly,is then insulted by this person Mr Omahaid.

    I ask you is it any wonder this country is in the muck ,when people like this exist.

    My words of wisdom would be to cop yourself on buddy,and if you are going to attack anyone at least don't make an idiot of yourself and your coterie by not bothering to get the basic spelling right.

    jeeesus wept.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    There, in microcosm is the Oooirish attitude .

    Some poster who doesn't, like myself , like Ivor Callelly, posts a derogatory post and uses a thread title which spells the man's name wrongly.


    Someone like myself ,who ,while not having any regard for the man, berates the poster for not having the common sense or balls to spell his name correctly,is then insulted by this person Mr Omahaid.

    I ask you is it any wonder this country is in the muck ,when people like this exist.

    My words of wisdom would be to cop yourself on buddy,and if you are going to attack anyone at least don't make an idiot of yourself and your coterie by not bothering to get the basic spelling right.

    jeeesus wept.

    Strong words my friend considering it did look like you signed off as Gombeen man. Here, enjoy your words of wisdom:D And if anyone wants me opinion, Ivor should be locked up!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Typhoon.


    I spotted that as soon as i posted it but unfortunately you cant edit thread titles


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