Is Kane on the verge of retiring? *SD Spoilers*

Penn

After watching his promo on Smackdown, I can't help but feel that Kane might be getting ready to leave.

He became World Champion again after not being a World Champion for about 12 years (and even then it was only 24 hours).

His promo contained clips from his first appearance in the WWF during HBK and Taker's Hell In A Cell match and various other clips through the years. And he talked about how he's been waiting for his ultimate revenge for 15 years (which would have been even before he debuted). He talked about how every time he tagged with and was friendly with Taker, he was really just waiting.

Thats a hell of a thing to say if he's planning on staying around for a few more years. It pretty much means he would definitely have to stay as a heel, but if he's now saying his ultimate plan the entire time has been Taker, any heel fued he has just isn't going to work I reckon.

Has there been any news on if he's been planning on leaving? I mean, just his whole promo just seemed like one big look back over his career. His debut, Brothers of Destruction, his fights with Taker. I wouldn't be surprised if Kane retired before Taker

campo

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

After watching his promo on Smackdown, I can't help but feel that Kane might be getting ready to leave.

He became World Champion again after not being a World Champion for about 12 years (and even then it was only 24 hours).

His promo contained clips from his first appearance in the WWF during HBK and Taker's Hell In A Cell match and various other clips through the years. And he talked about how he's been waiting for his ultimate revenge for 15 years (which would have been even before he debuted). He talked about how every time he tagged with and was friendly with Taker, he was really just waiting.

Thats a hell of a thing to say if he's planning on staying around for a few more years. It pretty much means he would definitely have to stay as a heel, but if he's now saying his ultimate plan the entire time has been Taker, any heel fued he has just isn't going to work I reckon.

Has there been any news on if he's been planning on leaving? I mean, just his whole promo just seemed like one big look back over his career. His debut, Brothers of Destruction, his fights with Taker. I wouldn't be surprised if Kane retired before Taker

Woud not read too much into you forget the 3 month rule.
in 3 months time Kane and The Undertaker will probably be tagging again and all will be forgotten. this is the WWE you know.

The Volt

TBH I've been expecting him to wind down for a while now. I'm happy they've given him a notable run with a world title in which to do so. After this 'Taker feud ends, it really should be the end of one if not both of them

JK9

Kane retiring never crossed my mind but when you explain it like that it seems possible. It's kind of weird to think of Kane retiring before Taker but it's set for him in a way, he's got the one decent title run he's always deserved and in possibly one last feud with his brother. Seems set for him to go out on a high from a booking perspective

DM_7

Interesting idea Paddy.

I couldn't think of a reason why WWE would want to do Kane v Taker again. But if Kane was indeed about to say goodbye it would make sense. He came in because of Taker and to leave because of him too would make sense.

rossie1977

well he is mid 40s now, has given 20 years to this business and is very interested in politics so he has a career lined up for himself should he finish up with wwe

vince has numerous monsters down in fcw that can step into a similiar role should kane leave, jackson andrews the obvious example

Rjd2

I really hope he retires, he has been awful to watch recently, he's really dragged down the quality of the show sadly. :mad:

Diabhal Beag

Rjd2 wrote: »

I really hope he retires, he has been awful to watch recently, he's really dragged down the quality of the show sadly. :mad:

He's not entirely to blame. Rey has been brutal for the last year.

Kane could have a great match with Taker.

Ridley

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

After watching his promo on Smackdown, I can't help but feel that Kane might be getting ready to leave.

I thought that awell.

Rjd2 wrote: »

I really hope he retires, he has been awful to watch recently, he's really dragged down the quality of the show sadly. :mad:

Disagree. Matchwise I think he's been consistent for years but the quality of those promos have been good and that last monologue on Smackdown was great.

Didn't care for that stuff about Undertaker coming back too soon especially considering what the promo was about but actual continuity with Kane almost (probably unintentionally) matching Paul Bearer's voice. Basically establishing he's a nexus of evil that bled into the Undertaker which turned him into the Ministry version all as part of a long game to weaken and destroy him is the kind of storytelling I want from WWE.

The Volt

I thought the drammatic music and flashbacks were slightly corny, I still found myself entertained. Why? Kane showed something I didn't really know he had. Skill on the Stick. He cut a nearly 6 minute long promo by himself, and didn't bore me in the slightest. I didn't notice any mistakes either, which is excellent for such a long promo. The end of his promo kicked ass. While I'm very impressed with Kane's recent mic work, I'm not even slightly suprised because he has always been exceptional on the mic. By exceptional, I don't necessarily mean that he's on par with The Rock in terms of charisma and one liners but Glen Jacobs is excellent at portraying his character, in fact I think he pulls it off to perfection. When he speaks, I have little trouble believing that Kane is a true psycho and that's what I mean when I say Jacobs has a great command over his character. He is able to bring the intensity and rage that the Kane persona requires and that's what makes him so good on the stick.

Was thinking about this recently and I reckon it's possible it could be the other way around.

Kane was supposed to retire before, I believe. I believe it was around 2004 the rumors wre going around that he was planning to call it a day with wrestling. I believe he was supposed to finish the undertaker's winning streak at WrestleMania, too, but he turned the whole idea down because he felt the streak should be broken by a young up and comer.

Anyway, I was thinking that, seen as 'taker is riddled with injuries these days and forever taking time off; perhaps kane will finish off the undertaker for good.

Undertaker could then take time to pursue other interests, and make some appearances prior to mania each year to keep his wallet healthy.


Plus the undertaker would be getting knocked off at Survivor series (the last Survivor Series, by the sounds of it?). Though that said, I don't expect to see Kane hang around for too much longer, either. I'd give him a year or so. I'd imagine when he loses the belt he'll be finished up.

Rjd2

Voltwad wrote: »

I thought the drammatic music and flashbacks were slightly corny, I still found myself entertained. Why? Kane showed something I didn't really know he had. Skill on the Stick. He cut a nearly 6 minute long promo by himself, and didn't bore me in the slightest. I didn't notice any mistakes either, which is excellent for such a long promo. The end of his promo kicked ass. While I'm very impressed with Kane's recent mic work, I'm not even slightly suprised because he has always been exceptional on the mic. By exceptional, I don't necessarily mean that he's on par with The Rock in terms of charisma and one liners but Glen Jacobs is excellent at portraying his character, in fact I think he pulls it off to perfection. When he speaks, I have little trouble believing that Kane is a true psycho and that's what I mean when I say Jacobs has a great command over his character. He is able to bring the intensity and rage that the Kane persona requires and that's what makes him so good on the stick.

Fair enough.

I was always quite cold regarding Kane. I respected him for not hogging the spotlight, but as a worker he was a bit ordinary really especially compared to his storyline brother. At the moment however I just can't tolerate him, his promos make me cringe as I just find them so ****ING CORNY. When he was rambling on about vengeance every Smackdown, I couldn't watch, I just had to turn off because it was so painful to watch. I know wrestling is silly really, but he was doing my non existent tits in. :mad:

Sorry folks, I know their is lots of Kane fans here and I don't wish to sound rude, but I can't get behind him at all.

And also I would have preferred that Drew, Cody or Christian, Kofi, Ziggles, anyone really to have been given a shot with the title. Kane has been rewarded financially for his WWE tenure, he doesn't need this belt really.

Oh and Kane v Taker will be horrible, mainly due to how predictable, and repetitive it is, and lets not forget the matches were never that good. Although with Kane as a wrester, their isn't that many classics on the CV. :pac:

glenjamin

Please, please, please bring back the mask for one last time before he retires.

Kess73

rossie1977 wrote: »

well he is mid 40s now, has given 20 years to this business and is very interested in politics so he has a career lined up for himself should he finish up with wwe

vince has numerous monsters down in fcw that can step into a similiar role should kane leave, jackson andrews the obvious example

Isn't he in PWA right now? Pretty sure he is Psycho Cyrus there.

johnn

Lol, so what about when he attacked Taker leading to his defeat at Wrestlemania XX, all part of the plan?

Degag

Deleted User wrote: »

Undertaker could then take time to pursue other interests, and make some appearances prior to mania each year to keep his wallet healthy.

Dunno, i have a feeling that when Taker retires, that will be it. There won't be any guest appearances ala Austin...

johnn wrote: »

Lol, so what about when he attacked Taker leading to his defeat at Wrestlemania XX, all part of the plan?

Well i presume that when he buried him alive he thought he had the job done seven years early!

Penn

He said in the promo that when Taker returned at WM XX, Kane realised that it wasn't the right time, so he let Taker win. So presumably he buried Taker knowing that Taker would return as the Deadman, and was planning on ending the streak there, then changed his mind

Kess73

Was there not talk of both Kane and Taker retiring together after Taker/Michaels II? Think there was something about Paul Bearer being back for that match as well when the rumours were flying.

paddyismaddy

Rjd2 wrote: »

I really hope he retires, he has been awful to watch recently, he's really dragged down the quality of the show sadly. :mad:

i am kinda enjoying his title run more so than swagger's one even though sd isnt great lately

rossie1977

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Kane could have a great match with Taker.

if they have an ordinary one-on-one they will stink out the arena, if they have a heavily gimmicked match ie a tlc match inside a burning/electrified hell in a cell it will be passable

Kess73 wrote: »

Isn't he in PWA right now? Pretty sure he is Psycho Cyrus there.

thats where he came from, he made his in-ring fcw debut around march or april this year, the cyrus gimmick in pwa was very kanesque, andrews is a much bigger more muscled version of glen jacobs so it wouldn't surprise me if vince worked him into a kane retirement storyline somehow

jaykhunter

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He's not entirely to blame. Rey has been brutal for the last year.

Kane could have a great match with Taker.

Ah now, Rey had an excellent series of matches with CM Punk, and a great showing at 2009's (?) Elimination Chamber! His stuff with Jack Swagger isn't bad at all. I'm sure Rey's more banged up than Kane will ever be.

That said, I think Kane earns a great wage and he coasts through his matches so I don't see why he won't stick around Sting-style (or even Taker style) for at least 5 more years.

gimmick

Kess73 wrote: »

Was there not talk of both Kane and Taker retiring together after Taker/Michaels II? Think there was something about Paul Bearer being back for that match as well when the rumours were flying.

Bearer was killed off a few years ago by The Dudleys no?

Meh, even if he was, WWE revisionism would ensure that detail was well forgotten about.

Penn

gimmick wrote: »

Bearer was killed off a few years ago by The Dudleys no?

Meh, even if he was, WWE revisionism would ensure that detail was well forgotten about.

No, I think they mentioned on the next show (commentators) or on the website that he survived and was taken to hospital or something (even before the pg era they couldn't pretend to have killed someone)

And it was Taker. Taker fought to save Bearer from the Dudleys, then buried him in the concrete anyway

Butch Cassidy

rossie1977 wrote: »

if they have an ordinary one-on-one they will stink out the arena, if they have a heavily gimmicked match ie a tlc match inside a burning/electrified hell in a cell it will be passable

In 1999 a match called "Gates of Hell" was mooted. It was something about a ring with a giant hole in the middle and if you're thrown in, you're thrown into hell and you die/lose or something. Never came to fruition thankfully.

They could an inferno match inside Hell in a Cell but rather than set the guy on fire just have it normal pinfall.

Kess73

rossie1977 wrote: »

if they have an ordinary one-on-one they will stink out the arena, if they have a heavily gimmicked match ie a tlc match inside a burning/electrified hell in a cell it will be passable



thats where he came from, he made his in-ring fcw debut around march or april this year, the cyrus gimmick in pwa was very kanesque, andrews is a much bigger more muscled version of glen jacobs so it wouldn't surprise me if vince worked him into a kane retirement storyline somehow

Thought he was back at PWA again in July . He seems to have bulked up again in the short time since he popped up on FCW earlier this year.


His Jason persona on PWA is very Kane-esque though. Maybe a third brother will come out of the burnt down funeral home?

CMpunked

Looks ike he's having too much fun:

The following is an excerpt from an article on Kane from the Baltimore Sun:

[Glenn "Kane"] Jacobs, one of WWE's longest-tenured performers, says he has thought about one day following in the footsteps of former pro wrestler Jesse Ventura and entering the political arena. For now, he's in no hurry to leave the ring.

"I'm still having fun," said Jacobs, 43. "I'm really at the height of my career, and I don't have any plans of packing it in, at least not in the near future."

Jacobs has been enjoying a career revival of late. He had spent the past several years in WWE in more of a supporting role, but the on-again, off-again feud between Kane and his "brother," The Undertaker, has heated up again and thrust Jacobs back into main events.

Penn

Damn. Thought I was onto something there.

This would have been the best way for him to retire. Which means when he does go, it'll probably be a real letdown

CMpunked

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Damn. Thought I was onto something there.

This would have been the best way for him to retire. Which means when he does go, it'll probably be a real letdown

Not if they keep him at this level for a while.

I know, unlikely, but sd don't have that many big main eventers as of late.

Rjd2

Kane doesn't have plans to retire soon?