Fire Certificate Report & Drawings

professorA

Hi all,Just wondering does anybody know of any good sources of information on how to do a Fire Certificate Report & Drawings? I can't seem to find any information or examples anywhere online. I have done one already in college, but it appears different documents apart from Part B are used in certain buildings, from what i heard, or am i wrong? Any help would be very much appreciated!Cheers!

CoalBucket

Each purpose type building uses additional references i.e. BS 5588: Part 11: 1997, Fire precautions in the design, construction and use of buildings, Part 11. Code of practice for shops, offices, industrial, storage and other similar buildings. Additional references are required for specific scenarios in a building i.e. calculating escape widths in a building with so many floors and discounting of stairways. All the references required are listed in Part B.

Builderfromhell

Everyone seems to do fire certs differently. I rarely do them but when I do I find them hard work.
Unless you are up to speed on the regs and capable of producing the drawings you might be better off leaving experienced people do it.

archtech

Most reports are laid out in a similar format to TDG-B, using the relevant headings. TGD-B also provides guidance on what other documents should/may be used. Generally speaking with the exception of Means of Escape, most fire cert application documents would only make reference to TDG-B.

sydthebeat

professorA wrote: »

Hi all,Just wondering does anybody know of any good sources of information on how to do a Fire Certificate Report & Drawings? I can't seem to find any information or examples anywhere online. I have done one already in college, but it appears different documents apart from Part B are used in certain buildings, from what i heard, or am i wrong? Any help would be very much appreciated!Cheers!

as coalbucket says, the type of building you are doing the report on will determine what documents you use to check compliance.

however.............

BS 5588.... all parts.... has been superceded by BS 9999. Everything you need to know is in this document. Its only 440 pages
It changes the way we look at Fire Prevention and Management. To be honest i wouldnt bother looking back on how FSCs were carried out in regard to TGD B and BS 5588, focus solely on BS 9999... perhaps do a CPD course on it....

It is expected that the next edition of TGD B will reference BS 9999 quite heavily.

sinnerboy

At a CPD event on this subject recently a leading Fire Safety consultant warned that , whereas what Syd says is technically correct .....

You would be most wise to first contact your local authority building control depatrtment before prapraing anything . The "takeup" for BS 9999 is not universal . Some are insisting on BS 5588....

Go figure !

civdef

If the fire cert is for something simple (I presume it is or it wouldn't be your first) just follow TGD-B paragraph by paragraph and demonstrate how you comply for your report.

Some counties' application forms even include a simple checklist procedure for simple buildings.

As for the drawings, you need to have the following:

Site location map. (OS map with boundary of site outlined in red)
Site layout plan. (Site outlined in red, boundary distances marked, hydrants shown).
Floor plans (Show all floors - no need for roof, show the use of all rooms, dimension all doors and stairs, show fire ratings of doors, walls, floors etc. Keep unnecessary information off the drawings. Include a legend. Scale somewhere between 1:50 and 1:200).
Elevations (All of them - show unprotected areas - label them clearly in accordance with the plans).
Sections (At least one, make sure it tallies with other drawings and includes the fire ratings.)

If you include that information you'll be in the right general direction.


Very few consultants are using 9999, far too much effort to start changing those carefully honed templates.

No6

I dont think BS9999 will be required here until part b is updated to include references to it and replace BS5588.