corolla van price?

shakin

hey does 1600 for 00 blue van with 125k on the clock seem reasonable?

its doe'd and all

thanks

johndaman66

That would seem pretty ok assuming the van has reasonable doe test left on it, is in good running order, in reasonable nick and there is no major immediate pending expenditure needed.

Word of warning though if its got the Peugeot 1.9 diesel engine in (which I'm guessing being 00 reg it probably has) its not anywhere near as well regarded as the 2.0 Toyota diesel.

shakin

johndaman66 wrote: »

That would seem pretty ok assuming the van has reasonable doe test left on it, is in good running order, in reasonable nick and there is no major immediate pending expenditure needed.

Word of warning though if its got the Peugeot 1.9 diesel engine in (which I'm guessing being 00 reg it probably has) its not anywhere near as well regarded as the 2.0 Toyota diesel.

it will be doe'd if i buy it, its early00 i think and the guy said it as toyota engine. are these cars fairly reliable? i assume it would be economical too?7

bazz26

Peugeot engine is 1.9 litre, Toyota engine is 2.0 litre.

johndaman66

shakin wrote: »

it will be doe'd if i buy it, its early00 i think and the guy said it as toyota engine. are these cars fairly reliable? i assume it would be economical too?7

I would have thought that all 2000 diesel models had 1.9 Peugeot engines but could be wrong in saying that. I assume it is the facelifted model shakin with the plastic lens headlamps that are not bugeye? Toyoya engines would be reliable but not sure if the same can be said for 1.9 Peugeot engines. It would be pretty economical but dont expect it to be a rocket, having said that though it should be well able to keep up with traffic. They certainly aren't held in as high regard as the Toyota engines and I for one am not a fan of French cars from experience and experinces of friends, neighbours and relations...Am sure I'm going to get hammered for saying that again as is usually the case in this forum.


You should see for sure if the engine is 1.9 or 2.0 diesel in the registration documentation. Here are pictures though so you can compare to van your looking at. First is 1.9 Peugeot engine and second is 2.0 Toyota engine.

Guy:Incognito

johndaman66 wrote: »

Toyoya engines would be reliable but not sure if the same can be said for 1.9 Peugeot engines. .

Those PSA engines are bulletproof.

johndaman66 wrote: »

They certainly aren't held in as high regard as the Toyota engines .

Only by people who dont really know better, PSA diesels have been among the very best for a long time.

johndaman66

Stekelly wrote: »

Those PSA engines are bulletproof.

Only by people who dont really know better, PSA diesels have been among the very best for a long time.

No doubt they are better than Renault and it wouldn't be difficult but as I say I'm not a fan of French cars due to their unreliability. And I'm not talking from the point of view of somebody who has no experience of them. I am speaking from the point of view of somebody who owned one and had very real and expensive problems with it and friends/ relatives/ neighbours who had similar unreliability whether it be Peugeot/ Citroen/ Renault or Renault engined Nissans.

I was talking to a former Toyota mechanic once who was selling a lot of Corolla and Corolla vans from his back-yard sort thing. He couldn't speak highly enough of the Toyota diesels but said he'd no interest in the Peugeot engined versions and would not consider taking one in as it wasn't held in high regard and he even went as far as to say they were junky or something very close to that line as I reacall.

Im only speaking from my own experiences and of people I know, it ain't make believe on my part either.

Guy:Incognito

johndaman66 wrote: »

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I was talking to a former Toyota mechanic once who was selling a lot of Corolla and Corolla vans from his back-yard sort thing. He couldn't speak highly enough of the Toyota diesels but said he'd no interest in the Peugeot engined versions and would not consider taking one in as it wasn't held in high regard and he even went as far as to say they were junky or something very close to that line as I reacall.

Im only speaking from my own experiences and of people I know, it ain't make believe on my part either.

One thing that cannot be levelled at those PSA diesels in particular is unreliability. They are as simple and strong as diesel engines come. That mechanic is either veyr misinformed or has a serious chip on his shoulder.

If the PSA unit was so bad , why, in the time when Toyota were at the height of their reliability power, would they have been using them over their own supposedly great engine?


As for Renault supposed weak engines. I'm sure theres more than a couple of people driving around in one or two non French marques with strong anti -Renault opnions unaware of whats propelling them under their bonnets.

johnos1984

Stekelly wrote: »

I'm sure theres more than a couple of people driving around in one or two non French marques with strong anti -Renault opnions unaware of whats propelling them under their bonnets.

I still get a kick out of asking my Uncle how his Qashqui is running

johndaman66

Stekelly wrote: »

One thing that cannot be levelled at those PSA diesels in particular is unreliability. They are as simple and strong as diesel engines come. That mechanic is either veyr misinformed or has a serious chip on his shoulder.

Don't know...Am only saying what the man with 10 to 15 odd Toyota Corollas for sale in his back yard and more in his garage being fixed said to me. He was a former Toyota main dealer mechanic so would surely imagine he came across both the Toyota and Peugeot diesel engines. I took him at his face value and the fact that he was a former Toyota mechanic certainly seemed good enough to me at the time.

There would seem to be a general conception out there that The Peugeot engine is not as well regarded as the Toyota one as have seen in being remarked in ads before that the van has a Toyota engine and "not Peugeot rubbish" as it would say in the ad. Perhaps as you say though the Peugeot engine is a great one and this is just talk from the Toyota purists.

Stekelly wrote: »

If the PSA unit was so bad , why, in the time when Toyota were at the height of their reliability power, would they have been using them over their own supposedly great engine?

Can't answer that question either. Would be guessing that money and even logistic had a lot to do with the decision. Maybe even fuel economy or emissions for all I know either as the Toyota engine would be dated enough at that stage. All the same though Toyota did go back to a Toyota unit in the Corolla in the following generation Corolla.

Stekelly wrote: »

As for Renault supposed weak engines. I'm sure theres more than a couple of people driving around in one or two non French marques with strong anti -Renault opnions unaware of whats propelling them under their bonnets.

Am sure thats the case too. It pays to do a wee bit of research when making such a sizeable investment.

waxon-waxoff

Back to the original question of whats it worth; the new crackdown on non business users getting commercial tax on vans will have an effect on car-van prices in coming months. One of the main reasons of buying a car-van is the lower bills but its possible that the road tax for the corolla will increase by €300. Its unlikely a business user will buy a van that old so it may be hard to shift it unless its cheap.

johndaman66

waxon-waxoff wrote: »

Back to the original question of whats it worth; the new crackdown on non business users getting commercial tax on vans will have an effect on car-van prices in coming months. One of the main reasons of buying a car-van is the lower bills but its possible that the road tax for the corolla will increase by €300. Its unlikely a business user will buy a van that old so it may be hard to shift it unless its cheap.

Thats certainly true. Whereas tax for the corolla 2.0 van was under €300 it may increase to over €600 if assessed in the same manner as 4/ 5 seater cars. Sizeable ongoing thread on this on the motors forum. All the same though the savings in insurance for beginner drivers can be astronomical, particularly young males. Other than these cost savings (recognising that cheaper motor tax may no longer be available in the coming months) I fail to recognise any benefits of a small car derived van such as a corolla over its three door five seater counterpart where the back seat can fold down if need be.