Bringing livestock from UK to Eire

Bobbins

Hi all,

Would appreciate some advice if anyone can help. I would like to bring a some sheep over from the UK. Does anyone know what procedure is in place for this? I presume there are some regulations/restrictions in the transport of livestock?

Thanks in advance!

5live

Are you mad? Get them tested for whatever notifiable diseases have to be tested for but they will by now have been vaccinated against bluetongue. There was problems in uk last year bringing stock in from continent in calf and later showing up with transmittable bluetongue if my memory serves me. I dont think you will get much thanks if we all end up vaccinating ALL our cattle and sheep so you could get cheap stock or a coveted bloodline. I know i wont anyway. Please reconsider as what few sheep are left may be on a barbeque soon after. Big enough risks from wind bourne transmission by flies from uk and continent without actively going to look for it:eek:

Bobbins

5live wrote: »

Are you mad? Get them tested for whatever notifiable diseases have to be tested for but they will by now have been vaccinated against bluetongue. There was problems in uk last year bringing stock in from continent in calf and later showing up with transmittable bluetongue if my memory serves me. I dont think you will get much thanks if we all end up vaccinating ALL our cattle and sheep so you could get cheap stock or a coveted bloodline. I know i wont anyway. Please reconsider as what few sheep are left may be on a barbeque soon after. Big enough risks from wind bourne transmission by flies from uk and continent without actively going to look for it:eek:

I really don't appreciate the tone of your answer. You are making unjust and unfounded assumptions about my motives for doing this. Cost or coveted bloodlines certainly do not feature in my reasons for doing so. If you could offer some constructive advice regarding the pro's and con's it would have been appreciated instead of scare mongering. I am in no doubt that few would thank somebody for an epidemic of any disease, hence my questions on what is common procedure. I resent that you would imply that I would deliberately wish to infect the nation's livestock for selfish reasons. So much for being able to ask an innocent question.

snowman707

Op . I think it is best to seek the advise of the department of agriculture,

it is something I may look into myself at a future date.

Birdnuts

Bobbins wrote: »

Hi all,

Would appreciate some advice if anyone can help. I would like to bring a some sheep over from the UK. Does anyone know what procedure is in place for this? I presume there are some regulations/restrictions in the transport of livestock?

Thanks in advance!

What breed are we talking about??:)

5live

My apologies for the tone but to be honest i was shocked. Just as i would be wary of buying stock from northern ireland because of the brucellosis problem, i would be very wary of buying stock especially pregnant stock from bluetongue areas. Just as we live in a free society you are free to do as you wish as long as it is legal. My only request would be to keep an eye on the disease risks and not only to your own stock. I may be wrong but is it possible to slaughter imported sheep when culled?

Feargal as Luimneach

5live wrote: »

My apologies for the tone but to be honest i was shocked. Just as i would be wary of buying stock from northern ireland because of the brucellosis problem, i would be very wary of buying stock especially pregnant stock from bluetongue areas. Just as we live in a free society you are free to do as you wish as long as it is legal. My only request would be to keep an eye on the disease risks and not only to your own stock. I may be wrong but is it possible to slaughter imported sheep when culled?

Sheep from the North and being killed in meat factories in the Republic the whole time.

Tipp Man

If cost or blood lines aren't your motives for bringing them in then may i ask why you would want to bring stock from the UK to Ireland??

Like most farmers in this country (IMO) I would certainly prefer not to see any stock from UK coming into this country

snowman707

Tipp Man wrote: »

Like most farmers in this country (IMO) I would certainly prefer not to see any stock from UK coming into this country

I wonder if all other countries including the UK took the same view of our exports ,

Just don't want to think of the outcome if live exports of cattle and sheep stopped to morrow morning,

LostCovey

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Sheep from the North and being killed in meat factories in the Republic the whole time.

I agree Feargal, but these are (or should be) going straight to the factory.

That is lower risk than imported animals going to a farm as breeding stock, to live out their lives with other stock.

However, imported lambs going "straight" to the factory is exactly how we got Foot and Mouth Disease in 2001.



LC

LostCovey

snowman707 wrote: »

I wonder if all other countries including the UK took the same view of our exports ,

Just don't want to think of the outcome if live exports of cattle and sheep stopped to morrow morning,

Well you can rest assured that we had 2 outbreaks of Foot and Mouth in a decade, and were vaccinating for Bluetongue, our animals would not be welcome by clear countries.

LC

Bobbins

Just to clarify....I am not a farmer nor do I have any experience working with or owning farm animals. My question was simply pertaining to bringing 3-5 sheep to help maintain grass levels on our land. No killing. No breeding. No commercial use whatsoever. Just purely for the enjoyment of having small, hardy, little sheep that do not require much care/ shearing etc but cannot be gotten in this country and would suit a novice like me ....( wondering why I should have to justify my reasons....:()

IF I thought for one second that bringing these animals would pose risk to others animals etc then of course it would not be a viable option. Surely it was obvious by my original question that the area of animal transportation is an area I have no knowledge of. I'm quite surprised to learn that all cattle/sheep are native to this country though....

Anyway...think I better contact the Dept of Agr.!

Thanks

snowman707

Bobbins wrote: »

Just to clarify....I am not a farmer nor do I have any experience working with or owning farm animals. My question was simply pertaining to bringing 3-5 sheep to help maintain grass levels on our land. No killing. No breeding. No commercial use whatsoever. Just purely for the enjoyment of having small, hardy, little sheep that do not require much care/ shearing etc but cannot be gotten in this country and would suit a novice like me ....( wondering why I should have to justify my reasons....:()

IF I thought for one second that bringing these animals would pose risk to others animals etc then of course it would not be a viable option. Surely it was obvious by my original question that the area of animal transportation is an area I have no knowledge of. I'm quite surprised to learn that all cattle/sheep are native to this country though....

Anyway...think I better contact the Dept of Agr.!





Thanks

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/livestock/1507756
http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/livestock/1470847

I know I saw a different variety sometime ago but can't find them now

Bobbins

Cheers for that Snowman, never heard of them; will do a bit of research Thanks again!

Feargal as Luimneach

LostCovey wrote: »

I agree Feargal, but these are (or should be) going straight to the factory.

That is lower risk than imported animals going to a farm as breeding stock, to live out their lives with other stock.

However, imported lambs going "straight" to the factory is exactly how we got Foot and Mouth Disease in 2001.



LC

Sheep numbers are down by a savage amount. There was some amount of ewes killed two years ago. To keep the factories going, sheep from the North have to be killed in our factories. It does represent a disease risk as you pointed out.

snowman707

LostCovey wrote: »

However, imported lambs going "straight" to the factory is exactly how we got Foot and Mouth Disease in 2001.



LC

Well I think Mr W***** won't be back in business for some time, this was happening when our IFA were strongly opposing sheep tagging of any any kind, 10 years later we are getting close to a tagging system that should have been introduced 20 years ago,

I imported heifers from europe in the late 1980's that had double plastic tags, the dept. came out and cut off the tags and re tagged with brass ZZZ tags, a different number in each ear, a few years later ZZZ tags cut off and re tagged with plastic

why are we always years behind in this fecking country?

5live

E tagging wont make a blind bit of difference to either food safety or disease prevention. Due in main to pressure from spain and france with big DAIRY flocks. 800 yoyos for a reader? Thats the profit from a hell of a lot of ewes. Dept just run sheep past and get reading. Now THAT is the main reason for e tagging. Nothing to make life easier or more profitable for poor mule running around trying to manage animals and doing idiotic beuracracy when they should be spending time with their family. Just get twice as many farmers high blood pressure per day