P45/P46 Question.

userod

Hi, I just started a new job where on my CV when applying I lied and told them I was working up until last month. I wasn't. I haven't worked since September 2008. I know that the company I said I was working for will agree and say I was working there all along so there is no problem with the reference. My problem is this:

They are looking for my P45 which will show my year earnings to date as €0. Will they get suspicious?

If I tell them I can't get my P45 what happens? Do they go get me a P46 or something? And in any event will they see from this also that my year earnings to date are €0 also.

I'm a little confused. Thanks in advance.

looksee

O what a tangled web....etc

Of course they will get suspicious. Then they will check up on the reference, and it will be worth less than nothing. According to my calculations you have been 2 years out of work, not one.

My suggestion would be, go to the MD/whoever employed you, and admit up front what you have done. Tell him that you were very stressed about not having a job and you told them you had been working till recently because you thought it would give you a better chance. Admit, apologise and hope they keep you on, which they might if you have made a good impression. Really the fact of being out of work should not make that much difference to getting the job, but admit to it before you are found out.

tenchi-fan

I wonder could you bluff them by saying you worked for your previous employer as a self-employed contractor rather than a PAYE worker?

Alternatively just get settled into the job and just keep delaying the P45 for a few months until they stop asking you for it.
Then at some stage phone payroll and ask them to fill out a P46 because you are not able to get your P45 and hope they don't hang you to the manager.

You should probably just have said your haven't worked since Dec 09!

userod

looksee wrote: »

O what a tangled web....etc

Of course they will get suspicious. Then they will check up on the reference, and it will be worth less than nothing. According to my calculations you have been 2 years out of work, not one.

My suggestion would be, go to the MD/whoever employed you, and admit up front what you have done. Tell him that you were very stressed about not having a job and you told them you had been working till recently because you thought it would give you a better chance. Admit, apologise and hope they keep you on, which they might if you have made a good impression. Really the fact of being out of work should not make that much difference to getting the job, but admit to it before you are found out.

Hi there, thing is, if they check up on the reference I know that the MD there and the reference will agree with what I said. I was thinking of just saying I was working off the books there because I knew them well and there were varying hours etc

Cherry Blossom

What you do in a situation where you were unemployed for the year to date is fill in a form 12A in the absence of a P45 for whatever reason. When your tax card comes back to your employer it will show reduced tax credits as you have been on social welfare, congrats your well on your way to a conviction for fraud, and hope you get one! :rolleyes:

looksee

How is it fraud? He lied in an interview, which is stupid, but its not fraud.

userod

adrenalinjunkie wrote: »

What you do in a situation where you were unemployed for the year to date is fill in a form 12A in the absence of a P45 for whatever reason. When your tax card comes back to your employer it will show reduced tax credits as you have been on social welfare, congrats your well on your way to a conviction for fraud, and hope you get one! :rolleyes:

Oh... you're one of them are you? I'd doubt your hopes will be coming through anytime soon. If push came to shove I'll tell them I was working just for the experience and no wage and I'm so close to the company I said I was working for (I have keys for 2 of their offices and allowed use them whenever I want) that it would be practically unprovable that I wasn't.

Pathetic.