Looking for martial Arts class in Limerick

frankied1

Hi does anyone know a good marial arts club in Limerick? One that welcomes beginnners and girls would be good.:)

Philip Fox

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begineers classes starting on the 8th September

the drifter

Hi Frankied1

i train with mike carrol

waza kai jujitsu
St Geard Street

The class welcomes begineers and girls...in fact there is a new wave of white belts after arriving in the past few weeks.

If you want any info on prices drop me a pm.

Opinicus

Hey frankie,

Willie and Jim are training Judo at UL in the PESS hall every Wed at 6pm til college starts again, then their times might change. You don't have to be a student! Good range of skill levels/weight categories represented.

They're also opening their own Judo club at the Claughan GAA club on Childer's Rd. soon.

You'll find their mob no./email here: IJA site

Best of luck!

siabhradh

Was walking home last week along O connell ave and a couple of doors down from the belltable a guy was showing knive attacks to others.
I think the place was a yoga studio and there is a big sign outside about lots of classes. I was going to inquire but thought join this chat to see it any one knows this guy.

Ger Healy

frankied1 wrote: »

Hi does anyone know a good marial arts club in Limerick? One that welcomes beginnners and girls would be good.:)

Hey frankied, what are you hoping to get from doing the classes? Is just that your question is very broad, untill we know exactly what you hope to achive.

Ger Healy

siabhradh wrote: »

Was walking home last week along O connell ave and a couple of doors down from the belltable a guy was showing knive attacks to others.
I think the place was a yoga studio and there is a big sign outside about lots of classes. I was going to inquire but thought join this chat to see it any one knows this guy.

Ive seen the studio they have a Sholin Kung Fu banner outside, but sorry I do not know who they are.

Gumbi

I highly recommend Mike Carroll's class, too. Been training there for years. Good for all types of combat, focuses on defending oneself on the street.

siabhradh

Ya I saw Mike's add on the Post Newspaper.
Some Polish friends I know say there is a great grav maga class out in Ul.
I thought kung fu was just for movies and would not be a modern way of
street defence.

siabhradh

The reason I came on this forum is to find out what classes in self defense are available and or other combat style systems, there is plenty of choice in all other parts of the country.
Mike does a good class for the street you say and you have trained with him for years, but the style he teaches is not familier to me.
waza kai rings no bells sorry!

Henry Minogue

check out http://gayongschoolie.blogspot.com/
guro anuar teach silat to all levels and ages.

Henry Minogue

http://www.magmell.ie/
is the shaolin school on o'connell street. and no it is'nt flowery wushu kung fu.

Insect Overlord

siabhradh wrote: »

Mike does a good class for the street you say and you have trained with him for years, but the style he teaches is not familier to me.
waza kai rings no bells sorry!

Have you actually attended any of his classes, or are you basing your point solely on the name of the style he teaches?

siabhradh

A very long time ago I took one of Mike's classes but it does not allow common self defence techs like gouging eyes, life is to short for locks and holds.
As for Henry forgive me for not understanding ur style but what I saw that night was more like Karate weapons then Kung fu.

Back to the original Question where is the best place to train and why in Limerick?

Sid_Justice

if you want to do eye gouging it sounds like you want to do Krav Maga. i saw a flyer for some self-defence class in annacotty think it was called combat system, can't find a website. these guys look similar http://www.irishselfdefence.com/course.html

But your question is bit of a oxymoron siabhradh. You want somewhere that's the best but at the same time you want eye gouging and all that nonsense.

Insect Overlord

siabhradh wrote: »

A very long time ago I took one of Mike's classes but it does not allow common self defence techs like gouging eyes, life is to short for locks and holds.

I doubt any club would let you practice eye-gouging techniques on other club-members. I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of any such club.

Mike and the guys practise more than just locks and holds, by the way. I guess you might need more than just one class to see that...

siabhradh wrote: »

Back to the original Question where is the best place to train and why in Limerick?

Why train in Limerick? Um, because some people live in Limerick, like, obviously...

siabhradh

OK Krav maga teaches a lot of nonsense like disarming guns and knifes, Its more a Mc Dolands Martial art that has been promoted out of fear of terrorism. Ju Jutsu locks and holds are only affective after a surprise blow to the eyes or neck.
So I have researched different styles in the area by asking some doormen
at the clubs and they say there is a guy called Mike Kensila in Clonlara who teaches Dim Mak and he learned it from Dillman a famous american Matrial artist.
Does any body know where he trains or has anybody done his class?

Doug Cartel

If people are recommending dim mak to you, they're probably just pulling your leg.

Sid_Justice

tell us what encorporates good self-defence?

Surprise attacks? Do you follow the lee morrison stuff? or geoff thompson?

Opinicus

Just make sure he teaches you "The Death Touch"

zagzagel

I am so annoyed over that demigod siabhradh, I decided to put it back in its box,

No. 1 Mike kinsella primarily teaches Akijutsu and Thai kickboxing.
If you get hit hard enough all points are dim mak points.

No 2 Mike Carroll is a gentle man and teachs what he feels a student is ready for emotionaly and physically. His punchs are fast and will preempt most attacks from his many years of experience.
Your level of fitness from his classes will alone give you fighting chance.

No 3. Brain Moloney is the man in O Connell ave and he teachs Wuzuquan kung fu a predeser to many styles of karate and he also teachs japanese Kobudo. He is also a nice guy although a little eccentric.

There are several Boxing clubs and Krav Maga clubs to chose from.
I sugest you take up tai chi to balance your thoughts and then proceed in your martial arts career.

Ger Healy

siabhradh wrote: »

The reason I came on this forum is to find out what classes in self defense are available and or other combat style systems,!

what are you looking for in the "other combat style systems"?

Philip Fox

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Gumbi

Mike's classes certainly teach eye gouging techniques and the like for the street, but certainly not to a lower grade. It's pretty dangerous to practice, though, and only the motion would ever be practiced (with an open hand).

I don't understand what you have against locks. Mike's classes incorporate many, many, locks, but for appropriate situations. His classes also comprise of plenty of striking, so you will not be left wanting in that regard.Don't feel like Mike recommends locks for multiple attacker situations or the like. no one does/should, and he doesn't

Don't judge from one class in any fighting, especially in one based on street defense, which tend to be quite diverse.

if you'd like to seethe "art" in action in its totality, you'd really have to see a knife/baton (stick etc.) defense class, a class focussed on general defense drills, and a sparring class to see it all in action (kicks, punches + grappling). I hope I haven't missed anything major there.

Mike emphasises balance very much so when fighting on the street, and grappling (both ground and stand up) make up a huge part of the curriculum). High kicks aren't focussed on at all, though turning kicks + thrusting kicks waist height and below are.

Mike teaches a variant of Ju Jutsu (Ju Jitsu) called "Waza Kai" which means "School of Technique" AFAIK.

I hope I've helped...

Gumbi

siabhradh wrote: »

OK Krav maga teaches a lot of nonsense like disarming guns and knifes, Its more a Mc Dolands Martial art that has been promoted out of fear of terrorism. Ju Jutsu locks and holds are only affective after a surprise blow to the eyes or neck.
So I have researched different styles in the area by asking some doormen
at the clubs and they say there is a guy called Mike Kensila in Clonlara who teaches Dim Mak and he learned it from Dillman a famous american Matrial artist.
Does any body know where he trains or has anybody done his class?

Ju Jitsu locks and holds are effective in many situations. I know that this isn't a great example, but you do know that locks/chokes are quite common as finishes in UFC? Just to let you know though, many self defense situations aren't necessarily "surprise" situations.

siabhradh

Locks and holds are effective in a one and one confrountation.
But in most street situations there more than one.(people and or weapons).
So when your hands are engaged in a lock what do you do to defend your self.
I go further and say any competion driven sport has the same problem.
On the street there are no rules. For example if a person does attack you
with a knife and you lock up his arm and take his weapon he may stab you with his other hand. ie the knife he did not show you.
Its just an example of how I personlly feel, locks tie up not just the attacker but also the defender.
I did some youtubing and googling on the wuzuquan style Mr. Moloney teaches and
seemingly there is a club in UCD that teachs the same thing.


Regards Siabhradh

ps. I not a Demigod.

Gumbi

siabhradh wrote: »

Locks and holds are effective in a one and one confrountation.
But in most street situations there more than one.(people and or weapons).
So when your hands are engaged in a lock what do you do to defend your self.
I go further and say any competion driven sport has the same problem.
On the street there are no rules. For example if a person does attack you
with a knife and you lock up his arm and take his weapon he may stab you with his other hand. ie the knife he did not show you.
Its just an example of how I personlly feel, locks tie up not just the attacker but also the defender.
I did some youtubing and googling on the wuzuquan style Mr. Moloney teaches and
seemingly there is a club in UCD that teachs the same thing.


Regards Siabhradh

ps. I not a Demigod.

Locks used in appropriate situations give the defender control over the attacker. The lock allows you to keep the knife hand away from the attacker's other hand. I find it very unlikely that someone will even think of pulling another knife while their arm/wrist etc. is being hyper extended. I wouldn't judge if you haven't tried it under pressure. I have. Also, just because you're applying a lock, does not mean you can't strike the attacker.

I would never apply a lock in a multiple attacker situation. (OK, never say never, but in general, I wouldn't). Having said that, an attack involving multiple people (or multiple weapons) is very dangerous. Defending yourself in such a situation requires a certain format.

Have you ever trained for such situations under pressure? Have you done much training at all? It sounds to me as if you have these opinions based on observations (and not many of them) as opposed to actually doing it.

Insect Overlord

siabhradh wrote: »

I did some youtubing and googling on the wuzuquan style Mr. Moloney teaches and
seemingly there is a club in UCD that teachs the same thing.

I sincerely hope you have more of an understanding of self-defence/martial arts than just what you've picked up from YouTube.

danlen

siabhradh wrote: »

Locks and holds are effective in a one and one confrountation.
But in most street situations there more than one.(people and or weapons).
So when your hands are engaged in a lock what do you do to defend your self.
I go further and say any competion driven sport has the same problem.
On the street there are no rules. For example if a person does attack you with a knife and you lock up his arm and take his weapon he may stab you with his other hand. ie the knife he did not show you.
Its just an example of how I personlly feel, locks tie up not just the attacker but also the defender.
I did some youtubing and googling on the wuzuquan style Mr. Moloney teaches and
seemingly there is a club in UCD that teachs the same thing.


Regards Siabhradh

ps. I not a Demigod.

In fairness I think its unfair to assess the efficiency of a martial art on the basis of being unexpectedly attacked by a man with a knife in each of his hands!

Obviously while proficiency in certain martial arts can be a huge help in certain situations, imo no matter what martial art you practice there are so many scenarios that can happen on the street that you can never be assured that you could always defend yourself.

siabhradh

Locks are difficult to get right and when under preasure nearly impossible.
In my opinion locks are only effective when a person is stunned or not expecting it.
Jujitsu is an ancient martial art but the rules of modern martial arts are different.
Has any body heard of a martial art called testa, where many effective techs are used.

Siabhradh.:D

Forcefield

siabhradh wrote: »

Locks are difficult to get right and when under preasure nearly impossible.
In my opinion locks are only effective when a person is stunned or not expecting it.
Jujitsu is an ancient martial art but the rules of modern martial arts are different.
Has any body heard of a martial art called testa, where many effective techs are used.

Siabhradh.:D

Hi Siadhradh,

Just wanted to get back to you on this.
Sounds like you want a more comprehensive martial art.
You should google Hapkido. Some of the stuff you will see here allows you to lock your opponent or take him/her out depending on your needs.
irelandhapkido.com - or find us on facebook.

We are based in Cork and have recently started classes in Ennis.

As a self defense, I can honestly say that this is the most practical and covers a wealth of different techniques.

Testa is a headbutting form of martial art. If you have a thick skull then knock yourself out!
Oops pardon the pun

Gumbi

Forcefield wrote: »

Hi Siadhradh,

Just wanted to get back to you on this.
Sounds like you want a more comprehensive martial art.
You should google Hapkido. Some of the stuff you will see here allows you to lock your opponent or take him/her out depending on your needs.
irelandhapkido.com - or find us on facebook.

We are based in Cork and have recently started classes in Ennis.

As a self defense, I can honestly say that this is the most practical and covers a wealth of different techniques.

Testa is a headbutting form of martial art. If you have a thick skull then knock yourself out!
Oops pardon the pun

More comprehensive than what?

siabhradh

Hapkido in Ennis sounds great but I don't drive so I would walk to any were in Limerick so long as its not to far out.
I was going to give a visit into that place I saw in O connell ave as I pass it alot and he is always swinging knifes and stickes, It looks like fun.
Mike is a great guy and all but where does he teach now.
I could get the bus out to UL and see whats going on there.
:rolleyes:

Gumbi

siabhradh wrote: »

Hapkido in Ennis sounds great but I don't drive so I would walk to any were in Limerick so long as its not to far out.
I was going to give a visit into that place I saw in O connell ave as I pass it alot and he is always swinging knifes and stickes, It looks like fun.
Mike is a great guy and all but where does he teach now.
I could get the bus out to UL and see whats going on there.
:rolleyes:

Across the road from Bobby Byrnes' pub, a stone's throw from the Tang Soo Doo place at LSP.

Gumbi

By the way, we're actually doing a big seminar/course for the club on Sunday at the new sports dome on Sunday. It's for club members, not the public, but as it's a "big" course, people are allowed to take friends and join in for parts of it.

Mike may allow you to take part in the in the course in full if you sign up in time, taking into account that you've trained there before - MAYBE The course may very well be a good introduction back to self defense, as we'll be covering lots throughout the day.

zagzagel

I went to one of Mikes demo's in UL A couple of years back and honestly its not my cup of tea.
It would I think take years to make it to a level you could use it in the streets. 2 weeks ago I saw both Mike and Brian Moloney's clubs give a Demo for charity, I think it was for Japans kids that lost family.
A very noble use of their time. I hope ye all you would agree.
Brian was doing sword techs and Mikes gang were doing hand to hand mostly.
Gumbi you seem to be a little overly converted to one system at the moment and I think it wold be good for you to experiment with other styles.
Z

zagzagel

Mike said all were wellcome on his ad not just guests of the club.

Insect Overlord

zagzagel wrote: »

Mike said all were wellcome on his ad not just guests of the club.

All were welcome to watch, I believe, but not to take part. I missed it myself, unfortunately!

Gumbi

Insect Overlord wrote: »

All were welcome to watch, I believe, but not to take part. I missed it myself, unfortunately!

You could have taken part if you'd come with a member He mightn't have allowed you to spar full-contact, though.

hayat

Hi

I am looking for a Tai chi class in the limerick area.
My friend heard of a chen style club near castleconnell.
Has any body here tried this class and liked it.

Hayat.

hayat

I tried a Tai chi class and didnt like it.
Nearly fell asleep.
My friend at uni says there is a guy called Brian Maloney teaching Wu chi, its a cousin of tai chi. He has a studio in the city.
I will call up next week and see if its something I would like to do.

hayat.