What a bunch of tossers (bord na mona workers strike)

Ban Ki Moon

Makes me sick reading this

Forty workers at a Bord na Móna power station in Co Longford have been suspended over an unofficial industrial dispute.
The company said they had signalled they would refuse to return to work next Monday when the plant reopens after a shutdown for essential maintenance.
The power station had been set to close for 20 weeks, but the work was completed faster than expected and the plant would reopen four weeks early, a spokesman said.
He said the reopening of the Mount Dillon plant was described was “good news” for the compay and employees.
“During the period of the overhaul Bord na Móna transport workers affected were deployed to alternative work.
“As the overhaul was completed, all transport workers were requested to return to normal work on standard pay and conditions.”
The spokesman said the workers involved “refused to return to normal work and the company was left with no alternative but to suspend today the 40 workers involved in the unofficial industrial action.
“The company fails to understand the rationale and logic behind this unofficial and needless industrial action and calls on the workers to agree to return to normal work immediately.”
It is understood the workers are refusing to bring peat in to the station, claiming they are owed money for loss of earnings of about €100 a week while the power station was closed.
The matter was already due to go to the Labour Relations Commission.
Greg Ennis of Siptu said the union had been made aware of unofficial action taking place.
“Union officials will meet members in the morning (Friday) to try and resolve the dispute,” he said.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0819/breaking48.html

admiralofthefleet

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

Makes me sick reading this

Forty workers at a Bord na Móna power station in Co Longford have been suspended over an unofficial industrial dispute.
The company said they had signalled they would refuse to return to work next Monday when the plant reopens after a shutdown for essential maintenance.
The power station had been set to close for 20 weeks, but the work was completed faster than expected and the plant would reopen four weeks early, a spokesman said.
He said the reopening of the Mount Dillon plant was described was “good news” for the compay and employees.
“During the period of the overhaul Bord na Móna transport workers affected were deployed to alternative work.
“As the overhaul was completed, all transport workers were requested to return to normal work on standard pay and conditions.”
The spokesman said the workers involved “refused to return to normal work and the company was left with no alternative but to suspend today the 40 workers involved in the unofficial industrial action.
“The company fails to understand the rationale and logic behind this unofficial and needless industrial action and calls on the workers to agree to return to normal work immediately.”
It is understood the workers are refusing to bring peat in to the station, claiming they are owed money for loss of earnings of about €100 a week while the power station was closed.
The matter was already due to go to the Labour Relations Commission.
Greg Ennis of Siptu said the union had been made aware of unofficial action taking place.
“Union officials will meet members in the morning (Friday) to try and resolve the dispute,” he said.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0819/breaking48.html

i can understand why, i mean look at the state of it

Winty

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

Makes me sick reading this

Well you wrote it

Donkey Oaty

Ah, for peat's sake.

jester77

Turf em out on their asses

JacquesD'Ladd

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

Makes me sick reading this

Forty workers at a Bord na Móna power station in Co Longford have been suspended over an unofficial industrial dispute.
The company said they had signalled they would refuse to return to work next Monday when the plant reopens after a shutdown for essential maintenance.
The power station had been set to close for 20 weeks, but the work was completed faster than expected and the plant would reopen four weeks early, a spokesman said.
He said the reopening of the Mount Dillon plant was described was “good news” for the compay and employees.
“During the period of the overhaul Bord na Móna transport workers affected were deployed to alternative work.
“As the overhaul was completed, all transport workers were requested to return to normal work on standard pay and conditions.”
The spokesman said the workers involved “refused to return to normal work and the company was left with no alternative but to suspend today the 40 workers involved in the unofficial industrial action.
“The company fails to understand the rationale and logic behind this unofficial and needless industrial action and calls on the workers to agree to return to normal work immediately.”
It is understood the workers are refusing to bring peat in to the station, claiming they are owed money for loss of earnings of about €100 a week while the power station was closed.
The matter was already due to go to the Labour Relations Commission.
Greg Ennis of Siptu said the union had been made aware of unofficial action taking place.
“Union officials will meet members in the morning (Friday) to try and resolve the dispute,” he said.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0819/breaking48.html

it was the title of this thread that attracted my attention... I thought, here is someone after my own heart, it's true: as I stumbled through my unholy obstacle-filled, password-tripping, dream-ridden pilgrimage unto this thread, I guessed, "with the world we live in today there is an 80% chance that you are absolutely correct", and indeed, I wasn't wrong. Yes, indeed, the foregoing are a bunch of tossers. Suspend them without pay, I say. In fact, fire them altogether, then they'll realise they were the stupid fools we always said they were, tossers, in fact. Next up, ESB, Bord Gais, Dail Eireann, Bus Eireann, Mna na hEireann... I could go on it would take quite-a-haering

Ban Ki Moon

JacquesD'Ladd wrote: »

it was the title of this thread that attracted my attention... I thought, here is someone after my own heart, it's true: as I stumbled through my unholy obstacle-filled, password-tripping, dream-ridden pilgrimage unto this thread, I guessed, "with the world we live in today there is an 80% chance that you are absolutely correct", and indeed, I wasn't wrong. Yes, indeed, the foregoing are a bunch of tossers. Suspend them without pay, I say. In fact, fire them altogether, then they'll realise they were the stupid fools we always said they were, tossers, in fact. Next up, ESB, Bord Gais, Dail Eireann, Bus Eireann, Mna na hEireann... I could go on it would take quite-a-haering

Oi
Leave the Mna na hEireann out of this
Mna na hEireann dont transport turf
They merely heat their ovens with it

ejmaztec

Sod the lot of em.

squod

Ban Ki Moon wrote: »

It is understood the workers are refusing to bring peat in to the station,

Whatever, I'll do it. There's forty jobs going...............leggit.

http://www.bnm.ie/corporate/index.jsp

crackcrack30

One of the lowest payed group of state workers in the country delivering almost free peat to one of the greediest monopolys in the country! ESB - in fairness I have never heard of them striking in the past.....BNM makes 300m profit a year.......

Ban Ki Moon

crackcrack30 wrote: »

One of the lowest payed group of state workers in the country delivering almost free peat to one of the greediest monopolys in the country! ESB - in fairness I have never heard of them striking in the past.....BNM makes 300m profit a year.......

Their (the strikers) profession is driving a truck.???

WindSock

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Ah, for peat's sake.

jester77 wrote: »

Turf em out on their asses

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sod the lot of em.

Damn you all :mad:



Ehh, Bord na Moaners, more like :cool:

evercloserunion

Graar public sector graar

listermint

Im on the Arrrr train too. Yarrrr.. Workers... Arrrr

dloob

Wait so it seems the workers were assigned to other work while the plant was closed but now they want compensation for the overtime they missed.
It's almost an impressive amount of greed and illogic, almost.

RoundyMooney

crackcrack30 wrote: »

One of the lowest payed group of state workers in the country delivering almost free peat to one of the greediest monopolys in the country! ESB - in fairness I have never heard of them striking in the past.....BNM makes 300m profit a year.......

You srs?

If it wasn't for ESB being forced to buy archaic fuel at exorbitant costs, there wouldn't be a Bord na flippin' Moaner!

Cookie_Monster

just sack them, plenty of others to fill in.

mike65

Those plants provide **** all power to the grid and create pollution by the tonne while doing so. As the fuel itself is very finite it should be stopped before all the cuttaway bog is used up.

Dempsey

RoundyMooney wrote: »

You srs?

If it wasn't for ESB being forced to buy archaic fuel at exorbitant costs, there wouldn't be a Bord na flippin' Moaner!

The Fuels division turns over more money for the company than the Energy division, stop talking shíte.

RoundyMooney

Dempsey wrote: »

The Fuels division turns over more money for the company than the Energy division, stop talking shíte.

...right, work there do we?

Tell you what, let ESB stop buying smoke in a bale in the morning, and let's see how things pan out, m'kay?

Einhard

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Ah, for peat's sake.

jester77 wrote: »

Turf em out on their asses

ejmaztec wrote: »

Sod the lot of em.

WindSock wrote: »

Damn you all :mad:



Ehh, Bord na Moaners, more like :cool:

Shame on you. This is a serious discussion, and not one to be bogged down with crappy puns.

natterjack

Seems Union are kicking in...madness jobs being lost left right and centre and these guys don't want to go back on full pay!!!
It can't be the weather thats keeping them out.....good that company is standing up to them.

M

thecornflake

Einhard wrote: »

Shame on you. This is a serious discussion, and not one to be bogged down with crappy puns.

You're right, both sides in the electricity plant are highly charged and it's all heating up. . . . . . . . .

someone is bound to get burned.

novarock

they should all be fire...paked



ill get my coat.

thebigbiffo

thecornflake wrote: »

You're right, both sides in the electricity plant are highly charged and it's all heating up. . . . . . . . .

someone is bound to get burned.

this is sure to generate controversy, we need to get all on an equal footing

Mrmoe

thebigbiffo wrote: »

this is sure to generate controversy, we need to get all on an equal footing

Thats coal comfort to the workers:P

deravarra

Mrmoe wrote: »

Thats coal comfort to the workers:P

At least they weren't slacking off ....

General Zod

natterjack wrote: »

Seems Union are kicking in...madness jobs being lost left right and centre and these guys don't want to go back on full pay!!!
It can't be the weather thats keeping them out.....good that company is standing up to them.

M

They weren't on full pay for the time it was closed, it's not their fault the plant needed maintenance, why should they be penalised?

Cookie_Monster

General Zod wrote: »

They weren't on full pay for the time it was closed, it's not their fault the plant needed maintenance, why should they be penalised?

because its fecking obvious to anyone working there that this situation will occur every so often and needs to be written into contracts

clived2

I`ll send my hoe down, to sort out this mess

highgiant1985

General Zod wrote: »

They weren't on full pay for the time it was closed, it's not their fault the plant needed maintenance, why should they be penalised?

can someone clarify this for me?

My understanding was these workers received their basic pay while the plant was shut down but missed out on overtime/bonus payments?

Am I correct is saying this? If so then I fully back the company overtime/bonus payments should not be an automatic entitlement and the workers seeking them for periods/striking over this is a joke.

Dempsey

RoundyMooney wrote: »

...right, work there do we?

Tell you what, let ESB stop buying smoke in a bale in the morning, and let's see how things pan out, m'kay?

Working for BNM paid for my degree

smoke in a bale? The ESB dont buy peat briquettes off BNM! LOL

If the Energy division managed to somehow collapse in the morning, BNM would still turn over 260M + profits. Any one division going under will not bring down the company.

m'kay! :rolleyes:

RoundyMooney

Dempsey wrote: »

Working for BNM paid for my degree

Thought that...

Dempsey wrote: »

smoke in a bale? The ESB dont buy peat briquettes off BNM! LOL

ROFLCOPTAR! I know what milled peat is sunshine, it's the same bloody fuel.

Dempsey wrote: »

If the Energy division managed to somehow collapse in the morning, BNM would still turn over 260M + profits. Any one division going under will not bring down the company.

They made a shade over 15 million in profit last year, let's not be disingenuous. They've suckled at the teat of compulsory purchasing for many years...

Look, I have no problem with BnM, as semi states go, they are among the good guys, what I have a major problem with is workers of all shades making unrealistic demands, and fecking things up for the rest of us, in terms of both public image, and future negotiation.

Dempsey wrote: »

m'kay! :rolleyes:

Well, you've obviously won the argument now, seeing as you've dealt the rolleyes card.

Dempsey

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Thought that...

ROFLCOPTAR! I know what milled peat is sunshine, it's the same bloody fuel.

They made a shade over 15 million in profit last year, let's not be disingenuous. They've suckled at the teat of compulsory purchasing for many years...

Look, I have no problem with BnM, as semi states go, they are among the good guys, what I have a major problem with is workers of all shades making unrealistic demands, and fecking things up for the rest of us, in terms of both public image, and future negotiation.

Well, you've obviously won the argument now, seeing as you've dealt the rolleyes card.

milled peat isnt smoke in a bale, its not baled. You were waffling.

As I said before, the company would not fold if the energy division collapsed. Again, you were waffling.

Profit margins are tight but they are pumping alot of money into R&D to move away from non-renewable energy. 20 years ago, the company would have probably been crippled without the peat burning powerstations but not today.

I didnt express an opinion on those 40 workers and the dispute, just wide sweeping nonsense that you've been spouting.

There isnt an argument as I'm stating facts and you are been sensationalist.

RoundyMooney

Dempsey wrote: »

milled peat isnt smoke in a bale, its not baled. You were waffling.

It's flippin' peat! You've got to be trolling if you don't get that. It's practically the same as the sh1te you buy in a bale outside the supermarket.

Dempsey wrote: »

As I said before, the company would not fold if the energy division collapsed. Again, you were waffling.

Sh1te talk. If they weren't selling it to ESB, there wouldn't be a BnM, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. You admit as much below, so where's the waffle, chief?

Dempsey wrote: »

Profit margins are tight but they are pumping alot of money into R&D to move away from non-renewable energy. 20 years ago, the company would have probably been crippled without the peat burning powerstations but not today.

Dempsey wrote: »

I didnt express an opinion on those 40 workers and the dispute, just wide sweeping nonsense that you've been spouting.

I never said you did! This is like trying to catch bubbles with a wire brush.

Now, this rubbish is sweeping nonsense...

some other guy wrote:

One of the lowest payed group of state workers in the country delivering almost free peat to one of the greediest monopolys in the country! ESB - in fairness I have never heard of them striking in the past.....BNM makes 300m profit a year.......

...which I responded to in the first place. You're the one who jumped in trumpeting the "all new" BnM, and its sustainable future, which is a bit like Shell and Topaz telling us at the pumps how "clean" their petrol and diesel is.

Dempsey wrote: »

There isnt an argument as I'm stating facts and you are been sensationalist.

I haven't been anywhere. Except popping back here now and then to stand over my views...

Dempsey

Sh1te talk. If they weren't selling it to ESB, there wouldn't be a BnM, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. You admit as much below, so where's the waffle, chief?

Again, thats a bull**** statement and I didnt admit to anything of the sort. Maybe its time you google what cripple means. You do realise that BNM was around long before the Rural Electrification Scheme and any peat burning power stations?

RoundyMooney

Not really, BnM predated peat generation by literally two or three years, being set up as somewhat of a pre-emptive measure, and prompted by the Emergency and dependence on imported fuels. They got the idea from the Russians. Other midlands stations followed later, in the 50s.#

ESB was and is remains their largest "customer", if there wasn't a necessity to provide locally sourced energy back then, BnM wouldn't exist as it would neither have been economically viable nor necessary. Paddy would still be cutting turf on a macro level, albeit with more modern methods.

Next?

Dempsey

RoundyMooney wrote: »

Not really, BnM predated peat generation by literally two or three years, being set up as somewhat of a pre-emptive measure, and prompted by the Emergency and dependence on imported fuels. They got the idea from the Russians. Other midlands stations followed later, in the 50s.#

ESB was and is remains their largest "customer", if there wasn't a necessity to provide locally sourced energy back then, BnM wouldn't exist as it would neither have been economically viable nor necessary. Paddy would still be cutting turf on a macro level, albeit with more modern methods.

Next?

You need to do more research, yes they were were setup for fuel generation (peat briquettes & turf) not energy generation (i.e. the ESB). The ESB were still planning and building several hydroelectric plants at the time. It was 13 years later that the ESB decided to build fossil fuel burning plants and they used BNM/peat to reduce dependence on imports.

If you want to believe that the energy division is propping up the company or that selling milled peat to the ESB is only commercially viable product that they have then off you go but you are wrong and that is a indisputable fact.