NCT or Scrap?

Broadman

Opinons please if you dont mind?

I have a 00 lexus IS200, mechanically sound, serviced regularly etc but its now up for NCT.

I need 4 new tyres as I was told at the last NCT that they would not pass the next one. Even to my untrained eye they need changing. So thats €400.

The Tax is also due and thats coming in at €640.

Servicing and NCT will come in somewhere around €300, assuming nothing has gone wrong since the last service.

I've estimated that by the time I'm finished getting I'll have spent about 1500 to get the car through the NCT and ensured its roadworthiness.

Fair enough;

Should I now be considering scrapping it?

The NCT test will now be yearly for that car in future; so NCT plus pre nct test every year.
With scrappage deals available would I be better advised to get a car with a lower emmission rating to reduce the tax.
I'm concerned that as the car ages the NCT people will find a reson to get the car off the road (Maybe a little paraniod here) so I'll be throwing money at something that will eventually fail the test.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I love the car and apart from servicing I've not had to put a cent into it. Hate to see it go but dont want to end up stuck with it either and get nothing at all for it in 2-3 years time.....

patrickc

Broadman wrote: »

Opinons please if you dont mind?

I have a 00 lexus IS200, mechanically sound, serviced regularly etc but its now up for NCT.

I need 4 new tyres as I was told at the last NCT that they would not pass the next one. Even to my untrained eye they need changing. So thats €400.

The Tax is also due and thats coming in at €640.

Servicing and NCT will come in somewhere around €300, assuming nothing has gone wrong since the last service.

I've estimated that by the time I'm finished getting I'll have spent about 1500 to get the car through the NCT and ensured its roadworthiness.

Fair enough;

Should I now be considering scrapping it?

The NCT test will now be yearly for that car in future; so NCT plus pre nct test every year.
With scrappage deals available would I be better advised to get a car with a lower emmission rating to reduce the tax.
I'm concerned that as the car ages the NCT people will find a reson to get the car off the road (Maybe a little paraniod here) so I'll be throwing money at something that will eventually fail the test.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I love the car and apart from servicing I've not had to put a cent into it. Hate to see it go but dont want to end up stuck with it either and get nothing at all for it in 2-3 years time.....

get the tyres (if you plan on keeping it) and put in for the NCT , don't bother with a pre test do the NCT and see if there are any issues then.

10 Years isn't old for a car, the NCT won't go unnecessarily out of there way to fail it.

depending on condition and mileage etc I'd imagine you'd still get 3.5k to 4.5k for the car, so if you are changing it may be better value to sell it than scrap it.

edit also AFAIK the new yearly nct rule has not come in yet, if you passed the NCT prior to this you'd get 2 years

MagicMarker

I'll take it off ya if you don't want it.

Broadman

Thanks for the offer magic but I think I'll go another way

Patrick, thanks for the input. You raised a valid point with regard to private sale. Its got low milage and is in great nick so Id say I'd get top end 4 for it. Thats 3 after putting it through NCT. Get 3 for scrappage so break even without the hassle of selling it ,,,,, what to do :eek:

johndaman66

Broadman, I think your mad to entertain the idea of scrapping a 2000 Lexus which by the sound of it was well cared for and only needs rountine maintenance to pass NCT. The tax is a bit of a b!tch alright to be fair but if you had to buy a new car that would hold a candle to the Lexus the initial outlay on such a model, even after scrappage would make the tax look like peanuts. Bear in mind also that you have the option of taxing it for 3 or 6 months, although it would be best to tax it for the year if you intend to drive it for the next year. Worst case scenario and you fail NCT for something very expensive to rectify you can declare car off the road and claim the tax back.

Broadman wrote: »

The NCT test will now be yearly for that car in future; so NCT plus pre nct test every year.

Why chuck money away on expensive NCT's. If there is something you definately know will need done for test get it done and ready as best you can. Theres a fair chance you will fail on something silly anyway even with a pre-nct done so why bother. Once you think the car is fairly right yourself just let it through I reckon and if you fail then rectify the problems. I'm sure you probably have a friend, relation or friendly neighbour who knows a bit about cars and will give it the once over before NCT for that matter if you buy him/her a pint down the pub!...besides shelling out on expensive and argubly pointless pre-nct's.

I do agree with you though there is a bit of a vendetta to clear the roads of cars that are anyway ageing at all. Much more harmful gasses are being pumped out out than CO2. The next green party member I see I might consider reducing his carbon footprint to zero!:P

_Conrad_

are you crazy scrapping in IS 200? just give it to me or someone else if you don't want it....

Seriously though, why would you scrap a car over some tyres, tax and a service when otherwise it sounds like it's fine?
Sounds absolutely nuts to me. why not sell it if you don't want to nct it? but be warned, you'll see it back up for sale for double the money after someone puts it through the test real soon.

Or test it yourself and then sell it if you think it's too old (10 years is not old for a car of that standard though), you could put some legal but part worn tyres on it rather than buying brand new ones, and surely you have at least one semi car-savvy friend who could help you give it a basic service?

Broadman

"I do agree with you though there is a bit of a vendetta to clear the roads of cars that are anyway ageing at all. Much more harmful gasses are being pumped out out than CO2. The next green party member I see I might consider reducing his carbon footprint to zero!"


SNAP

Broadman

Cheers for the comments folks, certainly food for thought....

If you were told two years ago the tyres would not past the next NCT they may well be illegal by now, shame on you if so.

The Big Red Button

RoverJames wrote: »

If you were told two years ago the tyres would not past the next NCT they may well be illegal by now, shame on you if so.

Wouldn't that depend on the mileage?

I definitely wouldn't bother with a pre-NCT or anything like that. Put it in for the NCT as it is, borrow someone elses tyres for the day rather than buying new ones, and reassess the situation from there.

Or even don't bother changing the tyres ... isn't worn tyres a visual retest? I'm pretty sure it is, and if so the retest will be free.

I honest cannot see why you would even consider scrapping it rather than selling it!

chatterpillar

chatterpillar wrote: »

Wouldn't that depend on the mileage?

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Which is why I said they may well be. No NCT dude has ever commented on tyre thread depth to me in the 10 to 15 times I've had a car tested and often they tyres had 3 or so mm of thread on them.

RossDonegan

€500 cash for it ?

Ghost Train

chatterpillar wrote: »

Put it in for the NCT as it is, borrow someone elses tyres for the day rather than buying new ones, and reassess the situation from there.

Agree with the first part, put it in as it is and see what the situation is... wouldn't recommend borrowing tyres for the test :eek:

The Big Red Button

Ghost Train wrote: »

Agree with the first part, put it in as it is and see what the situation is... wouldn't recommend borrowing tyres for the test :eek:

To clarify.

I most certainly don't mean for him to borrow tyres for the test, and then drive around on the worn ones afterwards! The minimum tyre depth for the test is far too low anyways, I would never let mine get anywhere near it.

I meant that, since he's unsure of what to do with the car, he could put good tyres on it for the sake of (possibly) getting it through the test, and then see from there what he wants to do.

Sorry, I really should have stated that in my post!

Ghost Train

chatterpillar wrote: »

To clarify.

I most certainly don't mean for him to borrow tyres for the test, and then drive around on the worn ones afterwards! The minimum tyre depth for the test is far too low anyways, I would never let mine get anywhere near it.

I meant that, since he's unsure of what to do with the car, he could put good tyres on it for the sake of (possibly) getting it through the test, and then see from there what he wants to do.

Sorry, I really should have stated that in my post!

Well since you won't need to pay if the tyres need a second visual inspection it wouldn't be worth it. Might only need one or two new tyres so better to know.

The Big Red Button

Ghost Train wrote: »

Well since you won't need to pay if the tyres need a second visual inspection it wouldn't be worth it. Might only need one or two new tyres so better to know.

I know. I said that in my post too.

Low Energy Eng

You'll get another 10years out of it by the sounds of it!

The IS200's are gorgeous aswel

cooltown

NCT it.

Broadman

Am going to NCT it. If I don't sell afterwards it I'll be happy to keep on driving it.

WRT tyres. Its the tyre walls that are the problem, not the thread. The car doesnt do that much mileage so the weight of the car would sit for a week at a time on on particular part of the tyre itself. Even though the tyre is reinforced to prevent the tyre wall blowing out NCT determined, while safe, it would be unlikey to pass next time around.

So no shame at all on me, if the tyres were unsafe surely it the responsibility of the NCT centre to fail the car; but thank you for your comment, it does raise an interesting question . I did ask for opinions

Broadman

Broadman wrote: »

So no shame at all on me, if the tyres were unsafe surely it the responsibility of the NCT centre to fail the car; but thank you for your comment, it does raise an interesting question . I did ask for opinions

It's their responsibility to fail the car if it's unsafe when they test it, it's the owner's / driver's responsibility to ensure the car is roadworthy every time it's on the road, so if the tyres are currently not roadworthy and you've been driving it there may well be some shame on you

Esel

€400 for tyres? www.tyreland.ie .....

challengemaster

You'd be crazy to kill a perfectly good car.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

When it comes to oil, tyres, tax and nct you just got to bite the bullet. I can't understand why anybody would skimp on oil or tyres. It doesn't make sense going for scrappage because you will have to spend out on a new car. If you don't want to spend on tyres or a service I doubt you'll want to do this. I passed the NCT first time this year with a 16 year old car and got the 2 years. Get part worn tyres with 5mm thread. They cost about 40€ each fitted. A basic service should only cost 120€. With a little over 500€ you should be on the road with tax nct and new shoes. Welcome to car ownership.

Ferris

esel wrote: »

€400 for tyres? www.tyreland.ie .....

Id rather new tyres for €350. www.camskill.co.uk

Tomebagel

Broadman wrote: »

Thanks for the offer magic but I think I'll go another way

Patrick, thanks for the input. You raised a valid point with regard to private sale. Its got low milage and is in great nick so Id say I'd get top end 4 for it. Thats 3 after putting it through NCT. Get 3 for scrappage so break even without the hassle of selling it ,,,,, what to do :eek:

Why would you want to scrap the car if you think you will get over 4000 for it? You wont get anywhere near 4000 for it nevermind top end 4.