Real or fake

ebaysellerrob

Hi guys was looking on the interweb when I came across this site.Basically they have what I would consider cheap digital consoles
http://www.muamat.com/classifieds/974/posts/5_Buy_and_Sell/57_Musical_Instruments/4791404_Yamaha_Mixer_Ls9_32_Digital_Console_4000_Yamaha_01V96_V2_Digital_Mixer_Yamaha_Motif_Es7_for_sale.html
Sent them an email asking if they are second hand or what the story is.They claim to be a uk based whole saler that sell new yamaha products...reckon they are on the level?

Welease

The hotmail/gmail email accounts would worry me.. Most companies carrying that level of expensive stock would have vanity domains (not all though)..

Can they provide you a valid registered VAT number that checks out? Or offer Cash-On-Delivery service through the delivery company?

trackmixstudio

"For more inquiry please contact

******************* ******************** ************

Interested buyers should sound the following appointments:

1.Quantity
2.Model
3.Location.

Thank you for your patronage in advance."

Get real!
Hong Kong or China judging by the "far east style" English above.
If it's too good to be true it's not true.
You can find this sort of sh1t all over ebay.
As Welease said, if they are carrying that stock and are official Yamaha dealers, you can bet your ass they would have a website and proper non gmail email address.
A fool and his money are soon parted. Don't be that fool!.

EDIT
Tried searching the phone number "+447011128437" in google.
'Nuf said.

Neurojazz

English telephone number, no real web address to be able to whois, and we accept your dorrar, preese reeve your name and number after the breep.

ebaysellerrob

pretty sure its fakes from china sent an email off just to ask a question or two and from what I got back I got that its not on the level(only read half the email before I found myself on contact us part of yamahas web site forwarding them the link)funny although there are thousands of fake audio stuff from that part of the world flooding the web but it prop comes from the same few factories

ebaysellerrob

the plot thickens I can out and asked straight up and they provided the following information


We are well registered company which we give out the best and you will
never regret buying from us.

Bellow is our company data.

www.tradebestonlinellp.webnode.com
Company Details - TRADE BEST ONLINE LLP
Registered No.OC345515
Address: SUITE 351, 10 GREAT RUSSELL STREET, LONDON, WC1B 3BQ, United Kingdom
Tel: 009447045745119

You are to get back to us with your full shipping address so we can
start the packaging of your order.

You can chat with us on MSN or Google talk.

mychoicestore@hotmail.com
choicestorepromo@gmail.com

funny thing is if the information is fake(which it may be ie turns out to be a chipper in london)the the eu fraud squad have grounds to look into the matter Ill see if yamaha email me back.

Neurojazz

scam

http://www.brownbook.net/business/37660803/mail-boxes-etc

It's a postbox address... I recognized the address strangely.

And the web address is just a subsite of a 'make your own' webby that's untraceable also.

madtheory

Nicely uncovered. I hear this happens a lot, it's cheap and easy to register as a company.

ebaysellerrob

Yamaha uk got back to me with this message

I took a look at the web page you forwarded. I have no idea where they are, but it is undoubtedly a scam.
They are advertising product that was discontinued years ago so it may well be second-hand equipment and not new.

One thing to bear in mind, if you are buying from outside of the EU, any warranty will be voided.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,

Karl Christmas
Deputy General Manager
Yamaha Commercial Audio, UK.

PaulBrewer

I've just read this.

I know Karl as we represent Yamaha stuff here.

Well spotted !