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humanity??

  • 12-08-2010 3:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    just seen this on yahoo and felt sick reading it, makes ye wonder how bad people have become.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100811/tuk-ghouls-took-photos-of-dying-suicide-45dbed5.html
    A coroner has blasted members of the public who took mobile phone photos of a dying teenage girl after she jumped from a multi-storey car park.

    West Dorset coroner Michael Johnston said that the ghoulish bystanders made him "worried about humanity".
    Robyn Nixon, 15, had suffered "psychological bullying" and jumped from the top floor of the car park in Weymouth, Dorset, on April 11 this year.
    She had been excluded from a group of friends and had also broken up from her boyfriend of seven months in the days before her death, an inquest heard.
    The hearing was told how Robyn had been speaking to her ex-boyfriend, now 17, in the minutes before she jumped to her death.
    He had been in the town with his new girlfriend and they walked to the car park after Robyn telephoned him, concerned for her safety.
    Just moments after the pair arrived, Robyn ended the telephone call and stepped from the edge of the building.
    Her ex-boyfriend rushed to her side but she suffered massive head injuries and was declared dead in hospital shortly afterwards.
    Mr Johnston praised the actions of passers-by who tried to help Robyn, but he said some had acted "in a shabby way" by taking photographs as she lay dying.
    "You can only presume something like this has never happened to them, but it does make you worried about humanity," he said.
    He added: "This was a child's life and you were taking photos on your mobile phones.
    "I'm sorry, but I think that is horrid and the people who did that ought to be ashamed of themselves."
    The coroner said no one could know what was going through Robyn's mind in the moments before she jumped, but concluded she took her own life.
    He said at the inquest at Dorset County Hall in Dorchester: "She had two areas of problems.
    "One was being excluded, if that's the right word, from a group of friends at school, and the other was that she had only recently broken up with a boyfriend.
    "It's impossible for me to begin to guess what provoked her on this occasion to feel that she had to go up on to the multi-storey.
    "It might have been a combination of the two, or one more than the other. I simply don't know."
    He said Robyn may not have expected to see her ex-boyfriend with another girl and "that was what made up her mind", he added.
    Notes were later discovered in her bag, one reading that "there is nothing for anybody else to hear", Mr Johnston said.
    Robyn's mother Sue Nixon wore a T-shirt bearing her daughter's image and the words "forget me not" on the front and the message "bullying stops here!" on the back.
    She said she thought her daughter may have suffered from depression.
    Robyn had been playing truant from All Saints School, Weymouth, after experiencing problems there in the 18 months before her death, Mrs Nixon said.
    Her mother offered to speak to the school but Robyn said that would "make things worse", the inquest heard, and threatened to run away if she did so.
    Mrs Nixon, of Dawlish Crescent, Weymouth, told the inquest: "She wasn't going to school as she felt so isolated, because she'd had a fall-out with friends and she just felt that everybody hated her."
    She said her daughter was subject to "psychological bullying" rather than physical bullying.
    She had even been taunted on a social networking site while on a family holiday to India in March.
    One of Robyn's friends said she had confided in him two days before her death that she intended to either "cut herself" or jump from the multi-storey car park.
    Asked by the coroner if Robyn gave a reason, the 16-year-old boy said: "She just said she wasn't happy with her life at the moment.
    "I asked her why. I told her she could get through it, and that it was a certain stage of her life.
    "She said: 'Yes, but I've got to live through this stage'."
    Robyn later promised to him that she would not go through with her threats, sending him a text message to say: "I'm not going to top myself."
    A 15-year-old witness told the inquest of Robyn's final moments.
    "She got up and started walking to the edge. She just continued walking. She stepped off and I froze to the spot because I didn't want to get any closer."
    The family declined to comment outside the court.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    Not as if they could have done much to help her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Nothing suprises me anymore. I firmly believe we reached a high point of humanity and are sliding back into savagery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    I've seen this kind of behaviour. A young guy got hit by a bus off his motorbike near Dame Street. I was walking by and I'll never forget the screams coming from him him. The ambulance was there and they were trying to help him and there was a big crowd of people standing around staring and taking pictures on their phones. I even saw one woman push forward with a child to get a better look! I can't understand people sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Not really worried.. You have those sick puppies everywhere.. Inbred cúnts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    People are cnuts. Fact.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I honestly don't understand the need for it, but don't consider it a moral injustice either...

    The way I see it, we're in a techincal time now where practically everyone has a digital camera on them either in their bag or in their phone and they feel the need to photograph every single thing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I boycott the Star to this day for the picture they published on Joey Dunlop.
    10 year anniversary was very recently.

    As for the OP, people are *****. I wish it was different but it's not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    And I read a poster make the point on AH yesterday that bullying can
    be constructive when it is within bounds :rolleyes: What fuccing bounds? :mad:

    This is seriously messed up sh*t, poor girl & monstrous people
    who are so disconnected from reality that they'd rather view
    the world through the eyes of a screen
    when it's literally right in front of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    major bill wrote: »
    just seen this on yahoo and felt sick reading it, makes ye wonder how bad people have become.
    "Become?" What gives people the notion that humans' propensity towards cruelty is a recent development?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    "Become?" What gives people the notion that humans' propensity towards cruelty is a recent development?

    Nobody suspected the Spanish Inquisition...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    prinz wrote: »
    Nothing suprises me anymore. I firmly believe we reached a high point of humanity and are sliding back into savagery.

    When?

    Also people used to go to public executions to gawk, its not necessarily surprising that these poeple looked and took pics.




  • people were cheering with those poor people were jumping to their deaths from the twin towers :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭SuperInfinity


    I don't think these people acted improperly by taking photographs. Maybe the fact that they took the photographs show they are interested.

    What did they want the public to do, walk by and pretend not to notice at all? Act like it was of no consequence to them? Would that not have been worse? Maybe these photographs will inspire them in the future to think of this problem more or realise that this can be a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    2 words: rotten.com. Who hasn't had a look in? I think we have a natural curiousity for the macabre and gruesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    WindSock wrote: »
    2 words: rotten.com. Who hasn't had a look in? I think we have a natural curiousity for the macabre and gruesome.

    a look?
    .
    .


    .
    ..and a fap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    What's the difference between people taking photos themselves and the media taking photos and video? I don't see any really, I don't see why it's ok to look at these pictures in a major publication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    prinz wrote: »
    Nothing suprises me anymore. I firmly believe we reached a high point of humanity and are sliding back into savagery.

    I think we reached that a long time ago. The late 18th century, to be exact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Modern society isn't any more inhumane that previous societies, the only difference is that everything is recorded in our society, so when something happens, we all know about it. Previously it just went under unknown to most people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Miss Ogyne


    Blame youTube and rotten.com and probably, to a certain extent, shows like Jackass, at this point we are desensitized to everything, look at 9/11 as a prime example, people were burning in those buildings but it didn't stop others on the ground filming their deaths and then selling those videos to TV stations, what would you expect from a world that in general gets it's jollies from the acceptance recieved from Thanks/Thumbs up/ friend requests from total strangers and see that as a type of validation because the more they get that validation the more they will go to extreems to make sure it'll continue


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