Cigarettes price hike

xi

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I have just been charged €8.97 :eek: for 20 Marlboro in Tesco, I've not read any article about an increase have you.

Mimikyu

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rubadub

Thats the same price listed online

BigBenRoeth

The price of cigarettes has been ridiculous for a very long time.
Makes me sick

absolutegroove

xi wrote: »

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I have just been charged €8.97 :eek: for 20 Marlboro in Tesco, I've not read any article about an increase have you.

Did you remember to scan your clubcard

testicle

Just been charged 8.55, up from 8.50 last week...

knetworks

major were 8.35,then all of a sudden, they went up to 8.50

borderlinemeath

BigBenRoeth wrote: »

The price of cigarettes has been ridiculous for a very long time.
Makes me sick

The price makes you sick??

More like the inhalation of tar and nicotine and the relentless damage that cigarettes are doing to your lungs/throat etc.

Mimikyu

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version1

testicle wrote: »

Just been charged 8.55, up from 8.50 last week...

the cigarette companies have just put the prices up 2 weeks ago.
The rrp for benson,malboro and silk cut is now 8.55...
Still very expensive though

BigBenRoeth

borderlinemeath wrote: »

The price makes you sick??

More like the inhalation of tar and nicotine and the relentless damage that cigarettes are doing to your lungs/throat etc.

Would you just get out

wmpdd3

They are the dearest cigs on sale on the Tesco site, was this always the case?

9.00 for a pack bloody hell....wonder if pall mall (7.75) are that bad?!


edit: today marlboro kingsize are 8.50?

http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=252174309

tommy21

Bah ignore not the forum to discuss it

Run_to_da_hills

My ex just came back from France, they were e55 a carton over there, They are creeping up. Spain is around e35 a carton. still worth bringing back a few.

obliviousgrudge

My suggestion, give the death sticks up!

Mimikyu

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knetworks

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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i'l second that:D

The Lovely Muffin

My granny smokes Silk-Cut Ultra 100's and they are now €8.55 and my mother smokes Rothmans and they are €8.60.

PaulieBoy

Was their not an EU ruling about the min price of fags over here that the cig companies won. I thought that would make the price go down, not up!
Jeez guys sorry for your trouble, that's a major rip off ( excuse the pun!) :-)

91011

Price breakdown based on 8.60

Duty 3.60 per pack
Vat 1.49 per pack
Retailer / distributer 1.30c per pack average between them.
Manufacturer = balance

Mimikyu

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Yag reuoY

How much of the HSE's resources are consumed by smoking related diseases etc?

The price should be double it is now. :mad:

Mimikyu

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g32

xi wrote: »

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I have just been charged €8.97 :eek: for 20 Marlboro in Tesco, I've not read any article about an increase have you.

You do not have to pay that. If you are going to Europe or know someone visiting Europe(?), buy the cigarettes there. All my relatives do that. I really don't know anyone who now buys cigarettes in Ireland anymore.

Yag reuoY

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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PA the state spends more than 1 bn euros on smoking related diseases.

You are a parasite!!:eek:

the groutch

the whole health cost issue is a bit of a 6 of one, because whatever would be saved by not having to treat people for smoking related diseases, will be counteracted by the fact they'll live a good 10 years longer and will have to be treated for other medical problems during that time.

(btw, I'm a non-smoker)

actuallylike

Yag reuoY wrote: »

PA the state spends more than 1 bn euros on smoking related diseases.

You are a parasite!!:eek:

This thread has nothing to do with this...whatsoever!!! Keep your opinions to another thread, nobody here cares about them.

Mimikyu

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LFCFan

Lads, keep the thread on topic or it'll be closed and no personal insults or there'll be bans to be handed out!!!

Wertz

I have to laugh at the likes of ASH and the other anti smoking clowns and some union of shopkeepers that want another price hike to help fund a crackdown on non-duty paid/imported cigarettes...can't these people see that the more you hike the price the more people you drive into buying the non-duty ones, the more the tax take falls and the bigger the demand/market grows for illegal imports?
Ultimately higher prices for legal duty-paid cigarettes is counter productive when it' s so out of kilter with our EU neighbours, never mind asian prices...as the price rises, the government's own tax take falls, the black economy has another nice little earner on it's hands and the no-one get's anywhere except the criminals...

Christ, some people in this country need a good dose of cop on.

I haven't noticed a price rise myself, but haven't bought a pack in weeks...I'm still one of the eejits that prefer the taste of a duty-paid smoke, most of that foreign muck tastes off or like marlboros.

CantGetNoSleep

The HSE's annual budget iirc is around 18bn. The annual tax take just from tobacco products is about 6bn. One in every three people visiting our hospitals would need to be going there with a smoking related illness for the price of cigarettes in this country to be justified.

If you double the price, much more people will buy black market cigarettes / go to NI etc, costing the exchequer billions.

I'm not a smoker for what it's worth, just making a point.

the groutch

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

If you double the price, much more people will buy black market cigarettes / go to NI etc, costing the exchequer billions.

and if you drop the price, the exchequer will take in less per pack, and people are less likely to quit because of the price, so will cost the HSE more

bit of a no win

Wertz

the groutch wrote: »

and if you drop the price, the exchequer will take in less per pack, and people are less likely to quit because of the price, so will cost the HSE more

bit of a no win

But you're not factoring in the black market/illegal imports into that.
The exchequer already lose out at the current prices. Dropping prices might allow them to compete with the smugglers and cut the amount of non-duty paid (and questionable quality) cigarettes on sale, thus actually boosting the exchequer take in the long run.
But the government isn't known for it's logical decisions...

amandaw

i was charged 8.92 a couple of weeks ago for 20 john player blue in tesco..got them today in the same one and was only charged 8.50...can they just change prices when they want?

dolphin city

they will probably be going up again in december - don't be surprised if they are 9 - 9.50 euro per pack. i know people will say they will give them up if they hit that price, but in reality people won't give them up , they will put it off until they hit the 10 euro mark.

ScouseMouse

amandaw wrote: »

i was charged 8.92 a couple of weeks ago for 20 john player blue in tesco..got them today in the same one and was only charged 8.50...can they just change prices when they want?

In short, YES. But they cannot sell below 7.75

rubadub

superscouse wrote: »

But they cannot sell below 7.75

Is this the actual law? Or is it just the duty limit. i.e. they can sell booze below cost and I would have presumed they could subsidise the duty on that booze and sell it below the actual duty level.

ScouseMouse

rubadub wrote: »

Is this the actual law? Or is it just the duty limit. i.e. they can sell booze below cost and I would have presumed they could subsidise the duty on that booze and sell it below the actual duty level.

Best reference I can find I am afraid.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0304/cigarettes.html

bongi69

Simple answer, switch to rollie. If you can't roll get one of those rolling machines. A pack of Amber Leaf is €8.40 which comes with skins, a pack of filters is €1, and the pack of tobacco lasts me about 3 days on a 20 a day habit.

Or you can do what I do: Buy 6 cartons of the 50g (double the size of the packet here) in Spain for €30 a carton, which lasts me a year. Factor in filters and skins, and a years smoking costs me no more that €250/300, and I get a few days in the sunshine :cool: Compared to spending €3100 buying a pack a day for a year

Sue Rocks

Expensive habit now!!

youcancallmeal

bongi69 wrote: »

Simple answer, switch to rollie. If you can't roll get one of those rolling machines. A pack of Amber Leaf is €8.40 which comes with skins, a pack of filters is €1, and the pack of tobacco lasts me about 3 days on a 20 a day habit.

Or you can do what I do: Buy 6 cartons of the 50g (double the size of the packet here) in Spain for €30 a carton, which lasts me a year. Factor in filters and skins, and a years smoking costs me no more that €250/300, and I get a few days in the sunshine :cool: Compared to spending €3100 buying a pack a day for a year

^ This

Rollies are so much cheaper its insane. 25g pouch of tobacco is €8.40 in Ireland, 50g in say Holland is around €5.50. Rolling tobacco is cheaper everywhere in Europe, even England by a small amount. If I haven't had a friend visit mainland Europe in a while then I order Tobacco from the Spanish website e-tobaccos which still works out half the price compared to what you would pay here. I honestly can't remember the last time I bought tobacco in Ireland? I would say I spend max €300 a year on tobacco/skins/filters

Wertz

Yeah but they taste like sh*t...not as bad as dodgy imports but almost...

youcancallmeal

Its funny I actually can't stand normal cigarettes now, Golden Virginia all the way!

Djdukey

That's crazy if they go up. I don't understand how they could even think of raising the prices. I mean imagine if everyone quitted smoking? The government would lose loads of money.

Also as someone posted out about the cost smokers are having on the HSE. Aren't we paying enough bloody tax for it? Should you raise drink prices because of the cost alcoholics have on the health system? Should you put a tax on drivers because if they crash they have to go to hospital?

With all the stupid rules and regulations this country has (another story) this country is becoming like a bloody communist country. These ejits up in the Dail telling me what I can and can't do. And it all resolves around how much money they can take off us to fund their own pockets. Its a joke. Rant over.

It won't bother me though. Just back from Riga with a suitcase full of DUTY PAID cigarettes which will last me until FEB, when i will go back again. Flight €60 return, cigarettes €22.50 a carton. Love my Marlboro gold

Djdukey

the groutch wrote: »

and if you drop the price, the exchequer will take in less per pack, and people are less likely to quit because of the price, so will cost the HSE more

bit of a no win

And on the other hand. The exchequer will take in less per pack, sell more packs, people less likely to quit but with the extra sales of cigarettes there will be more money to help them You could also take it a step further and say that will all the extra smokers and extra problems they have there will be a need for more doctors and more nurses so more jobs.:rolleyes:

Its swings and roundabouts.

0verblood

Here in Nairobi they're 1euro a pack