translating Irish names

Fuinseog

whats the deal in this country when you walk into an office and give your name in Irish and the helpful person the other side of the desk writes down the English version?
some people only have Gaelic surnames.
personally I find it disrespectful.
if you insist on having a Gaelic name you are regarded as being finicky and its even worse if you want it spelt correctly.

deise go deo

Fuinseog wrote: »

whats the deal in this country when you walk into an office and give your name in Irish and the helpful person the other side of the desk writes down the English version?
some people only have Gaelic surnames.
personally I find it disrespectful.
if you insist on having a Gaelic name you are regarded as being finicky and its even worse if you want it spelt correctly.

Well in this situation you shoud shove their nose into the book and shout,
''NOOOOO. THATS A BAD RECEPTIONIST''. Its the only way theyl learn.:D

Fuinseog

this happens to me quite often, not so much since the celtic tiger, but frequently in the east. point it out to them and they will think you are being fussy or awkward. confrontation is not good if you have to have further dealings with them.

Krusader

It's better that you stand up to them and let them think whatever
your name should be on their records not their interpretation of it (fadas 'n' all)

An gal gréine

Have it written out for them beforehand, or show them your i.d.
If they start questioning this then inform them that this is the only name you are known by.

Fuinseog

An gal gréine wrote: »

Have it written out for them beforehand, or show them your i.d.
If they start questioning this then inform them that this is the only name you are known by.

in most cases they have my name right in front of them and they still get it wrong. if i spell it they will just ignore what I am saying and write in phonetically.

the advantage of this is that if my name is mispelt it has no legal bearing.

if i go abroad they always get my name right. for them its not rocket science. the name is before them and they transcribe it as written.

here you are still regarded as being finicky if you want the sine fadas put in.

An gal gréine

Fuinseog wrote: »

in most cases they have my name right in front of them and they still get it wrong. if i spell it they will just ignore what I am saying and write in phonetically.

the advantage of this is that if my name is mispelt it has no legal bearing.

if i go abroad they always get my name right. for them its not rocket science. the name is before them and they transcribe it as written.

here you are still regarded as being finicky if you want the sine fadas put in.

I take your points, Fuinseog, sometimes we are treated like aliens in our own country whereas foreigners living here are more understanding and in tune with our situation. I believe we should'nt lose the head when frustrated while also not letting them away with it.
By the way, I have noticed that the most virulent towards spoken Irish are the natives of the Breac-Ghaeltachtaí, possibly because they feel some quiet shame as they are the generation who are finally, in their own area, killing it off when it is still within their easy grasp to do the opposite.
To name one town, only, from each province:
An Clocháin Liath (Dungloe) in Co. Donegal
Daingean Uí Chúis (Dingle) in Co. Kerry
Cloch na Rón (Roundstone) in Co. Galway

All are situated in the official Gaeltacht, of course.

Elmo

I have an anglised name which no one can spell. What can I do?

conor.hogan.2

I got sent out a euro travel health card in Irish - despite filling in the form in English and not requesting it to be in Irish.

Not complaining but it was just so odd. There is no history of me requesting stuff in Irish or my name being in Irish as it is in English I dunno why I got it in Irish.

deise go deo

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

I got sent out a euro travel health card in Irish - despite filling in the form in English and not requesting it to be in Irish.

Not complaining but it was just so odd. There is no history of me requesting stuff in Irish or my name being in Irish as it is in English I dunno why I got it in Irish.

Was your name in Irish or was the Card Itself in Irish.
If the card Itself was in Irish you may have ticked a box or something by mistake, or else it was a clerical error, strange though.

dubhthach

Fuinseog wrote: »

whats the deal in this country when you walk into an office and give your name in Irish and the helpful person the other side of the desk writes down the English version?
some people only have Gaelic surnames.
personally I find it disrespectful.
if you insist on having a Gaelic name you are regarded as being finicky and its even worse if you want it spelt correctly.

Next time it happens say you want to speak to their supervisor. The problem in this country is we don't complain enough. If they give some bull**** story about not been able to enter fada's in windows then tell them to use charmap. Or just do ctrl-alt-vowel

Heck I can even do punc buailte on my keyboard

Dubhthach Duḃṫaċ

Psychedelia

I hate this ****.
I don't think people's names should be translated at all!
If someone's name is Diarmuid it does not suffice to call them Dermot.

Elmo

Psychedelia wrote: »

I hate this ****.
I don't think people's names should be translated at all!
If someone's name is Diarmuid it does not suffice to call them Dermot.

Michéal really gets people.

Psychedelia

you can tell a lot about a person from their willingness to give a fada its place in society! :P

GhostInTheRuins

dubhthach wrote: »

Heck I can even do punc buailte on my keyboard

Dubhthach Duḃṫaċ

Please tell me how to do that

dubhthach

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Please tell me how to do that

Well I downloaded "United States-Gaeilge" keymap from here: http://mearchlar.tripod.com/ My work laptop has an american keyboard layout (basically @ symbol is reveresed with ")

I use the language bar to switch keymappings and then it's just a case of typing /c -> ċ , /d -> ḋ etc.

you can also do things such as:
⁊ -- for agus
ſ -- long s
ẛ (long s with punc)
ɼ (long r)

and for Gadhlig you can do all the grave accents eg. àòùèì

-Duḃṫaċ

GhostInTheRuins

dubhthach wrote: »

Well I downloaded "United States-Gaeilge" keymap from here: http://mearchlar.tripod.com/ My work laptop has an american keyboard layout (basically @ symbol is reveresed with ")

I use the language bar to switch keymappings and then it's just a case of typing /c -> ċ , /d -> ḋ etc.

you can also do things such as:
⁊ -- for agus
ſ -- long s
ẛ (long s with punc)
ɼ (long r)

and for Gadhlig you can do all the grave accents eg. àòùèì

-Duḃṫaċ

Nice one, thanks