NCT

KERSPLAT!

Ok so I bought my car 2 years ago with no NCT (Garage said they would but disappeared 5 weeks later )

I never got a NCT but I want to get it done now, my question is:

When I get it NCTed, how long will it be NCTed for?

The reason I ask is I know that if the NCT due date is 08/10 and you get it done it lasts 2 years,
if its due 08/10 but you leave it a year say 08/11 it will only last 1 year... my NCT is now out over 2 years so what will happen??

Cheers in advance,

Ian

Atlantic Dawn

Once it's 4 years old it's every 2 years NCT is required so say your car is registered on 05/05/2010, it's first NCT is due 05/05/2014 and will last until 05/05/2016, if you don't get it done at this date but say leave it until 05/10/2010, the next NCT is still due 05/05/2018.

If you apply for yours now it's unlikely you will get a test until September at the earliest meaning your test will last until 08/2012.

KERSPLAT!

OK but my NCT was due over 2 years ago... so if the NCT lasts 2 years it will be still overdue technically??? even though it has just been done

So im wondering what happens? surely they cant make me do it twice

Ghost Train

IPAM wrote: »

OK but my NCT was due over 2 years ago... so if the NCT lasts 2 years it will be still overdue technically??? even though it has just been done

So im wondering what happens? surely they cant make me do it twice

You'll probably get it for 2 years. Not much you can do except go for it and see how long its nct'd for.

IPAM

IPAM wrote: »

OK but my NCT was due over 2 years ago... so if the NCT lasts 2 years it will be still overdue technically??? even though it has just been done

So im wondering what happens? surely they cant make me do it twice

What is the date of first registration in Ireland ? When is the NCT due date ?

KERSPLAT!

Was registered in 2000, I bought the car in 05/08 and the NCT was already out, not sure exactly what date, I think the due date was early 2008

IPAM

IPAM wrote: »

I think the due date was early 2008

Well the next due date would then be early 2010, so if you get it tested now the cert will be valid until early 2012

Del2005

Has the car every been NCTed?

It's done off the 1st registration of the car, not the Irish registration date, if it's an import.


If it was 1st registered before August you'll get it for 2 years, not too sure how it will work if it's registered within the next 3/6 month's when it is overdue thought.

All cars should be tested on or before the anniversary date of first registration of the car in the country of origin (see note regarding imported cars below). There is no link with motor tax or insurance expiry date.

PLEASE NOTE: NCTS can issue your certificate up to six months early for a first time NCT and three months early for subsequent NCT tests. For example, a car was first registered on the 5th June 2006. The car was due for its NCT on the 5th June 2010, the car is brought for its NCT on the 26th January 2010 and it passes. An NCT Certificate is received with an expiry date of 4th June 2012

http://www.ncts.ie/faq.html#4

Dempo1

Tricky and complicated how the NCT works, I had an 04 registered in July tested in september 2009, the car was in storage for two years,hence the delay. The ****ers passed the car it only had 34k Miles on the clock but they only gave me a cert for 11 months. Aparently the NCT test is applicable from date of registration, fours years after same,if you miss the year the car should be tested they will only give you a cert for the period prior to making up the required two yearly test, hope this is not too confusing, i'm back in this week.

While i am on, can any tell me if the engine management light showing up will cause a fail,the NCT do not state this but do state Airbag, ABS, ESC (basically saftey lights) on will cause a fail.

My problem is an annoying error code which does not exist, mechanically the car is perfect. Any advice appreciated!

KERSPLAT!

They failed mine on the engine check light, turned out to be a sensor I never got fixed hence me not having the NCT

If you know a mechanic (or drop into a garage) just before you do the test. They can plug a small device into most cars and reset all faults. For me the sensor stayed off for about 4-5 hours before coming on again

Could give it a go?

Ian

Dempo1

IPAM wrote: »

They failed mine on the engine check light, turned out to be a sensor I never got fixed hence me not having the NCT

If you know a mechanic (or drop into a garage) just before you do the test. They can plug a small device into most cars and reset all faults. For me the sensor stayed off for about 4-5 hours before coming on again

Could give it a go?

Ian

Ian, really appreciate your updateon this annoying issue. Your experience contradicts others opinions but tallys with what my Mechanic said, whilst the NCT test manual does not specifically mention the engine warning light i kinda figured it staying on is only offering an excuse to the testers. My Mechanic has offered to do as you suggested, the only problem is the length of time the damn light stays off as it flucuates, the light normally went off on a total fill of the tank and stay offi up half a tank before comming back onbut this is not as regular as it used to be.

Just curious, did you get the sensor sorted or just leaving it? mechanically this issue has no baring on the cars performance!

Thanks again, much appreciated!:)

KERSPLAT!

I didnt get it fixed but I "plan" on it. I want to try hold onto the car for another while so having this annoying light fixed is a must. If anything else goes wrong, where that light should come on, id have no way of knowing which could mean trouble

Dempo1

OK the update Guys,

Completed the test yesterday (Tullamore), arranged for my Mechanic to meet me and he turned of the damned engine management light. The Car passed no problem. I did however speak to the tester, nice guy, a seasoned mechanic i reckoned. He basically told me that the testers concerns would be more related to the light not coming on as with all the other lights, abs, airbags etc. The test shows how the car is running, emissions etc and if all the areas tested pass, the engine management light staying on is not essentially an issue, this said i did not feel it was a firm commitment. In my case i had the light turned off and to be honest for anyone having the test with the same issue, i would do the same if it meant you avoided a re test, particularly if you know (as i did) the engine management light staying on was not a major fault issue.

As an aside, i was there quite a while and noticed a lot of failures, one tester in particular failed four cars in a row and from i gathered for stupid nonsensical issues such as one light out and in one case a window wiper worn. Seems to me to be ridiculous to have to re test for silly issues such as this, surely some arrangement such as holding NCT cert until these minor issues are rectified (probably a quick visit to a motor factor),return to the Centre show these issues are resolved and head off, instead they require a retest, booking time and of course additional fees.

Load of Bollox if you ask me!

Anyway, word on the street if your in the midlands, Book Port Laois, apparently a lot more flexible although this does of course raise objectivity issues i guess.

Thanks everyone for the heads up!

Anan1

Dempo1 wrote: »

As an aside, i was there quite a while and noticed a lot of failures, one tester in particular failed four cars in a row and from i gathered for stupid nonsensical issues such as one light out and in one case a window wiper worn. Seems to me to be ridiculous to have to re test for silly issues such as this, surely some arrangement such as holding NCT cert until these minor issues are rectified (probably a quick visit to a motor factor),return to the Centre show these issues are resolved and head off, instead they require a retest, booking time and of course additional fees.

Load of Bollox if you ask me!

There is, it's a visual retest and it costs nothing. Mind you, you'd want to be one silly bunny to turn up to an NCT test with a light out.

kildare.17hmr

Anan1 wrote: »

There is, it's a visual retest and it costs nothing. Mind you, you'd want to be one silly bunny to turn up to an NCT test with a light out.

Anan Lights can go anytime, iv often brought cars over to the test centre that have had lights and levels checked before I leave the garage and by the time i get to the centre have failed on a light being out! just one of those things, altho i prob test over a hundred cars a yr so bound to get a few hickups!

Anan1

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Anan Lights can go anytime, iv often brought cars over to the test centre that have had lights and levels checked before I leave the garage and by the time i get to the centre have failed on a light being out! just one of those things, altho i prob test over a hundred cars a yr so bound to get a few hickups!

I'm sure it can happen, but that's just bad luck - hardly the NCT's fault! Plus, if the bulb couldn't last until the NCT then it was unlikely to last long after. ;-)

Dempo1

Anan1 wrote: »

There is, it's a visual retest and it costs nothing. Mind you, you'd want to be one silly bunny to turn up to an NCT test with a light out.

Maybe Tullamore are not with the program, two customers suggested they return ad they were told, they would have to re book, if i did not hear it directly would not have believed it, lights etc can go any time and a little leeway should be considered,one of the customers was an elderly lady.

It seemed tome from my humble observations there should be a visual test but clearly it is not evident in Tullamore and more to the point there is ample testers available to do the visual checks.

Another incident i saw was a guy with a **** off exhaust on his car, the car purred like a cat, seemed in immaculate condition and it appeared his car failed because of noise levels, again, i witnessed the tester bring the car for a spin and apart from heavy revving, the car was pretty quite. It just seems to me that there is no coherent approach to this NCT lark

Anan1

Dempo1 wrote: »

Maybe Tullamore are not with the program, two customers suggested they return ad they were told, they would have to re book, if i did not hear it directly would not have believed it, lights etc can go any time and a little leeway should be considered,one of the customers was an elderly lady.

It seemed tome from my humble observations there should be a visual test but clearly it is not evident in Tullamore and more to the point there is ample testers available to do the visual checks.

Another incident i saw was a guy with a **** off exhaust on his car, the car purred like a cat, seemed in immaculate condition and it appeared his car failed because of noise levels, again, i witnessed the tester bring the car for a spin and apart from heavy revving, the car was pretty quite. It just seems to me that there is no coherent approach to this NCT lark

Have a look at the NCT manual on www.ncts.ie. It clearly states that visual retests are free, and that exhaust noise as measured in the sound test area must be under 99dB. If you feel that Tullamore are not adhering to NCT regulations then contact NCTS headquarters and complain.

GreeBo

Dempo1 wrote: »

i witnessed the tester bring the car for a spin

Err what?

My engine light was on 2 weeks ago so I popped the bulb out for the test and there was no mention of it.

Dempo1

GreeBo wrote: »

Err what?

My engine light was on 2 weeks ago so I popped the bulb out for the test and there was no mention of it.

Where were u when i needed u, LOL, Popping out my light was not an option apparently as it would have effected other lights? and i was told it would be a messy job,taking off dash board etc,my solution worked in the end, €50, extra but worth avoiding the hastle.

Yes,i agree there is a visual test and its free according to the nct manual, this matter clearly has not reached the tullamore centre,as for complaining,thats up to those affected, actually i thought the little old lady was going to slap the tester with her rather large handbag, LOL, i'm done with the nct for another two years, thank god

greglo23

The engine management light staying on is not an issue in petrol engine cars. Diesels on the other hand will not be smoke tested if the light is showing a fault.
Regarding re-tests a fee is incurred only when equipment is needed to do the test, for example brakes, suspension lights or something which can only be seen using the ramp.