TMG motors Tallaght

smoggy11

Hi all,

Myself and the OH are thinking of buying a car from TMG motors on the Kiltipper Road in Tallaght.

Just wondering if anyone had any experience with them?

They operate out of their house, so we were wondering how valid a 3 month warranty would be.

They seemed really genuine, but then and again, how would we know any different!

Any help on this would be very much appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

jock101

They operate out of their house, Sounds a bit dodgy, unless you know your stuff about cars or the price is under a grand! Very High risk!:eek:

Midnight_EG

jock101 wrote: »

They operate out of their house, Sounds a bit dodgy, unless you know your stuff about cars or the price is under a grand! Very High risk!:eek:

High risk...?


They're hardly gonna move house in the case of a bad sale, so no risk if the car is alright tbh.

manta356

jock101 wrote: »

They operate out of their house, Sounds a bit dodgy, unless you know your stuff about cars or the price is under a grand! Very High risk!:eek:

Hardly as dodgy as a portacabin though

Drummerboy08

Midnight_EG wrote: »

High risk...?


They're hardly gonna move house in the case of a bad sale, so no risk if the car is alright tbh.

It wouldnt be the first time a car dealer changed premises to avoid replacing an engine or the like.

smoggy11

They have lots of ads around the place, they sponsor a local football team and they guy went into the house as we were leaving to leave off the keys. The neighbours also seemed to know him as they waved when they were leaving the house and loads of people passing were waving and saying hello.

Does any of that make them more reliable? I'm at a loss here!

Drummerboy08

Take the car on its individual merits, and dont worry about the dealer. get the car checked over by a good mechanic and if the car is solid and the price is right then happy days.

-Chris-

jock101 wrote: »

They operate out of their house, Sounds a bit dodgy, unless you know your stuff about cars or the price is under a grand! Very High risk!:eek:

I don't think it's dodgy at all, as with any major purchase just make sure you do your due diligence. There are really genuine sellers operating out of their homes, and there are dodgy blokes operating out of glass palaces (and vice versa).

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Take the car on its individual merits, and dont worry about the dealer. get the car checked over by a good mechanic and if the car is solid and the price is right then happy days.

I'd agree with this to an extent.

1) make sure the car is sound - bring an expert
2) make sure the price is right - compare the price to similar cars elsewhere, don't worry about discounts etc.
3) make sure the seller is legit - check their reputation (as you're doing here, hopefully someone will have some experience with them)
4) make sure they're a legitimate business. If you buy as a private sale you forfeit your consumer protections and the price should be adjusted appropriately

My €0.02

Jimmy Bottlehead

How could you check they're a legit registered business?

-Chris-

I'm no accountant, so my method may be flawed, but I'd start off by asking for their legal name (it'll have to be on your invoice/receipt) and see if I could find them on cro.ie as an active company.
It's not much, but it'd make me slighly happier anyway.

I'd also look to see if there was any way to see how long the conpany was registered - i.e. are they one of these companies who shuts down every few years and reopens with a different legal name.

langdang

-Chris- wrote: »

I'm no accountant, so my method may be flawed, but I'd start off by asking for their legal name (it'll have to be on your invoice/receipt) and see if I could find them on cro.ie as an active company.
It's not much, but it'd make me slighly happier anyway.

I'd also look to see if there was any way to see how long the conpany was registered - i.e. are they one of these companies who shuts down every few years and reopens with a different legal name.

+1
It's reassuring to see a business trading under the same name from the same address with the same directors for a decent period of time.

Jimmy Bottlehead

From googling, it throws up the same results as a very reputable dealer from down in Sligo I used to work for. The guy I worked for (owned a petrol station, has his own garage, and sold cars from his house and his petrol station) is very well regarded as a supplier of quality cars; but all that can be found on the web are links to his current stock.

TMG Motors appear to have 27 cars in stock at the moment... seems too many to be a dodgy dealer? I would assume getting a bad rep will spread around quicker than being able to get rid of 27 bad cars...?

knifey_spoonie

I have bought one car off them before, seemed 100%, car was straight. I wouldn't have anyhing bad to say.

Jimmy Bottlehead

knifey_spoonie wrote: »

I have bought one car off them before, seemed 100%, car was straight. I wouldn't have anyhing bad to say.

House on the Kiltipper Road, seems to be two youngish guys working under one of the guys father?
Are they easy to bargain with, or are their prices fairly set in stone due to being so low already?

Loopsie

3 mths warranty.............specify terms and conditions! guaranteed its engine and gearbox and after that u will be told to sling your hook!!!!!!!!!!
As someone above posted be very cautious of these 'dealers' that appear especially ones trading from houses??!!!! The naas road is notorious for shutting down one week and opening new garage under new name next week.............absolute cowboys!
There is absoluteyl no regulations in this country as to who can and cant open a 'garage' and where it can be done!

My advice........long standing main dealers everytime!

Lucifer

I have known the owner for years both as a family friend and also through the trade and can confirm that he is not a dodgy dealer like some of the naas road type of cowboys.

johnner09

Lucifer wrote: »

I have known the owner for years both as a family friend and also through the trade and can confirm that he is not a dodgy dealer like some of the naas road type of cowboys.

I bought a BMW316i off him last year and so far I've put over 1900 euro into fixing it. A list of what was done is-Front brake pads and discs, a recon alternator with control module and new battery,wheel speed sensors, 2 new cam sensors, a new crank sensor, a new DSC module with pump, a new steering angle sensor,a new instrument cluster because original one was interfered with and had soldered wires at the back of it, something to do with the DSC not working on it in the first place, a new lamp module and again with soldered wires to bypass something, a new heat resistor which caused a battery drain together with the lamp module. My mechanic also reckoned the ECU went on it at some stage and all that wiring was done to hide it!! Also forgot to mention a new breather filter and no sign of the being serviced before he sold it on. Please note these faults were well hidden and didn't start to show for a good six to seven months after I bought it. So take care and be sure to bring a mechanic with you because as you can see from this list of things.......... I didn't and look what happened.

Stheno

johnner09 wrote: »

I bought a BMW316i off him last year and so far I've put over 1900 euro into fixing it. A list of what was done is-Front brake pads and discs, a recon alternator with control module and new battery,wheel speed sensors, 2 new cam sensors, a new crank sensor, a new DSC module with pump, a new steering angle sensor,a new instrument cluster because original one was interfered with and had soldered wires at the back of it, something to do with the DSC not working on it in the first place, a new lamp module and again with soldered wires to bypass something, a new heat resistor which caused a battery drain together with the lamp module. My mechanic also reckoned the ECU went on it at some stage and all that wiring was done to hide it!! Also forgot to mention a new breather filter and no sign of the being serviced before he sold it on. Please note these faults were well hidden and didn't start to show for a good six to seven months after I bought it. So take care and be sure to bring a mechanic with you because as you can see from this list of things.......... I didn't and look what happened.

In fairness, faults that showed up six to seven months after you bought a car can hardly be directly attributed to the dealer who sold it to you?

johnner09

firstly i`m not a mechanic and as i said earlier i didn`t bring one with me. on the test drive i got a battery light coming on and i asked why that was on? i was told " a sure thats nothing , i`ll get my mechanic to sort it!!. three weeks later i was getting the handbrake light coming on and i know now what i didn`t know then that it was the start of sensors failing. i don`t care what any body thinks but he knew what was up with that car. the amber triangle light came on on the dash but the system wasn`t connected? when my mechanic looked at it he found an LED light was soldered in its place and was attached to the park light, seat belt or air bag light so it came on with ignition and turned off after start up with the rest of them. i understand that eventualy you have to replace parts aswell as maintain your car but that cars safety was comprimised as far as i`m concerned and was completely uncalled for, complete COWBOY true and true!!

Gary ITR

johnner09 wrote: »

firstly i`m not a mechanic and as i said earlier i didn`t bring one with me. on the test drive i got a battery light coming on and i asked why that was on? i was told " a sure thats nothing , i`ll get my mechanic to sort it!!. three weeks later i was getting the handbrake light coming on and i know now what i didn`t know then that it was the start of sensors failing. i don`t care what any body thinks but he knew what was up with that car. the amber triangle light came on on the dash but the system wasn`t connected? when my mechanic looked at it he found an LED light was soldered in its place and was attached to the park light, seat belt or air bag light so it came on with ignition and turned off after start up with the rest of them. i understand that eventualy you have to replace parts aswell as maintain your car but that cars safety was comprimised as far as i`m concerned and was completely uncalled for, complete COWBOY true and true!!

Just because you're not capable of checking a car and were too naive to get a mechanic to check it doesn't make somebody a cowboy which is a very serious allegation to make btw

Brake pads and discs are consumables and there's no way in hell a dealer knew sensors were going to start crapping out.

I don't know the dealer nor have I any affiliation to them, I just think you're a tad out of line considering the facts tbh

Vertakill

johnner09 wrote: »

firstly i`m not a mechanic and as i said earlier i didn`t bring one with me. on the test drive i got a battery light coming on and i asked why that was on? i was told " a sure thats nothing , i`ll get my mechanic to sort it!!. three weeks later i was getting the handbrake light coming on and i know now what i didn`t know then that it was the start of sensors failing. i don`t care what any body thinks but he knew what was up with that car. the amber triangle light came on on the dash but the system wasn`t connected? when my mechanic looked at it he found an LED light was soldered in its place and was attached to the park light, seat belt or air bag light so it came on with ignition and turned off after start up with the rest of them. i understand that eventualy you have to replace parts aswell as maintain your car but that cars safety was comprimised as far as i`m concerned and was completely uncalled for, complete COWBOY true and true!!

Absolutely ridiculous... the more you explain the situation, the more it shows how naive you are/were and I think you're being very unfair on the seller.
Despite all these alleged problems, you bought the car off the guy.
He cannot be held responsible for sensors or consumables going 6 months down the line.

Even the most experienced mechanics can have a car that suddenly causes problems and costs money. Sometimes unexpected things happen to cars that cost money... you don't automatically blame the previous owner or the seller.

You're under the assumption that the car would be absolutely perfect once it was serviced from the seller... which is a very naive way of looking at it.

W.Shakes-Beer

Thats waffle Johnner

I bought my current car (Opel Astra Bertone) off him with 85k miles about a year ago and 10,000 miles later still haven't put a penny into it bar general servicing.

I think your car was a lemon but nothing at fault of the dealer, especially months down the line.

AhInFairness

Hi all,

Apologies for bumping an old thread.

I'm currently looking around for my first car and see this dealer has a 2001 Clio for sale. I will be bringing a mechanic with me to have a look but wanted to see if anyone else had any experience with TMG. My dad is extremely cautious and I think he's a bit put off by them operating out of their house

Also, on the ad there was no mention of any warranty. Is there any comeback with this dealer?

bazz26

I would not even buy a car of that age from a dealer, most of the stuff they have in that range is rough and the warranty will be the bare minimum as there is very little money to be made from giving a warranty on an 11 year old car. There is better value in that price range from buying private and you get to meet/talk to the owner selling it.

hanron

AhInFairness wrote: »

Hi all,

Apologies for bumping an old thread.

I'm currently looking around for my first car and see this dealer has a 2001 Clio for sale. I will be bringing a mechanic with me to have a look but wanted to see if anyone else had any experience with TMG. My dad is extremely cautious and I think he's a bit put off by them operating out of their house

Also, on the ad there was no mention of any warranty. Is there any comeback with this dealer?

Did you buy from them? Any joy/problems?

AhInFairness

hanron wrote: »

Did you buy from them? Any joy/problems?

I didn't go with them in the end.

My uncle is a mechanic and he sourced a car for me.

NobodyImportant

He has been around for years. Knew him a LONG time ago and he was a decent bloke then.