What is going on?

For the last week, I've had terrible pain in the gums in all four corners of my mouth, and loads of blood when I brush. The dentist said I had mild gingivitis but I haven't had too much trouble, just a bit of pain and bleeding on and off. I've seen the dentist about five times this year and had two professional cleanings, I brush well and use Corsodyl mouthwash. What on earth is going on? It's basically my whole mouth which is all inflamed and painful, I can hardly eat. I tried to keep brushing through the pain, as I know these things can often be a build up of bacteria but it's not helping.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Google ANUG and see does it match you symptoms, any chance you are a smoker????

Kallie Plump Trombone

Kallie Plump Trombone wrote: »

Google ANUG and see does it match you symptoms, any chance you are a smoker????

I can't understand how I'd possibly have anything like that. I have excellent hygiene (thorough brush twice a day, mouthwash), I've seen a dentist every 2-3 months this year, and I'm not a smoker. I'm not even someone who would skip brushing their teeth if I came in drunk and wrecked, I ALWAYS do it. I got an electric toothbrush a few weeks ago on recommendation of the hygienist, and then all this started.

My symptoms came on in the last week and are painful, bleeding gums and major sensitivity to cold.

I've been having non-stop hassle since I had my wisdom teeth out last September, could it be related to that? I never had any problems with gingivitis or bleeding or anything. Up to a year ago, my dentist said I had basically perfect teeth. I've been using Pronamel toothpaste for the last few months for acid erosion, could that have anything to do with anything?

I also started a new contraceptive pill about 1.5 months ago.

ballsymchugh

Sunny Delightful Mason wrote: »

I can't understand how I'd possibly have anything like that. I have excellent hygiene (thorough brush twice a day, mouthwash), I've seen a dentist every 2-3 months this year, and I'm not a smoker. I'm not even someone who would skip brushing their teeth if I came in drunk and wrecked, I ALWAYS do it. I got an electric toothbrush a few weeks ago on recommendation of the hygienist, and then all this started.

My symptoms came on in the last week and are painful, bleeding gums and major sensitivity to cold.

I've been having non-stop hassle since I had my wisdom teeth out last September, could it be related to that? I never had any problems with gingivitis or bleeding or anything. Up to a year ago, my dentist said I had basically perfect teeth. I've been using Pronamel toothpaste for the last few months for acid erosion, could that have anything to do with anything?

I also started a new contraceptive pill about 1.5 months ago.

No.

i was going to suggest pregnancy until i read the last line. hormonal changes can cause an increased inflammatory response to bacteria, which would cause more bleeding. could be the pill. have you read the side effects?

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Do your symptoms match ? ANUG is to do with a certain type of bacteria combined with host factors ( smoking, stress etc...) its not a reflection on your oral hygiene. Its a spectrum, some cases are mild others ( like those on google) are severe. Its one of the few causes of painful gums in otherwise healthy mouths.

Bleeding gums + generalised Pain (most bleeding gums are not painful) + young person ( often at a stressful time like exams etc....) = ANUG. See a dentist usually a short course of a specific antibiotic along with a cleaning sorts it out. Probably nothing to do with wisdom teeth or acid erosion. Bet its worst around your lower front teeth ?

God I'm really worried now. My dentist doesn't do emergencies/walk ins. All the sites seem to suggest that ANUG and gingivitis in general usually indicates an underlying disease?

Kallie Plump Trombone

Kallie Plump Trombone wrote: »

Do your symptoms match ? ANUG is to do with a certain type of bacteria combined with host factors ( smoking, stress etc...) its not a reflection on your oral hygiene.

Bleeding gums + generalised Pain (most bleeding gums are not painful) + young person ( often at a stressful time like exams etc....) = ANUG. See a dentist usually a short course of a specific antibiotic along with a cleaning sorts it out. Probably nothing to do with wisdom teeth or acid erosion. Bet its worst around your lower front teeth ?

No, not at all. No pain there. Worst on the two lower corners/2nd molars, especially the gum which used to be the socket where my lower left wisdom tooth was. I do have a decaying lower right wisdom tooth which my dentist wanted to leave and 'wait and see' if it got any worse. Is my dentist just a complete ***ing idiot?

ballsymchugh

it's the internet. think of some tool writing about their experience while watching house. it sounds like something house talked about, so it's either lupus or some weird bacteria from the back end of beyond that was picked up on a holiday 14 years ago that's decided to go nuts.
whereas real life is a lot more mundane. the other 999,999 cases out of a million are easily diagnosed and easier to treat. don't go scaring yourself.

although could be lupus

btkm8unsl0w5r4

well if you know there is decay there get it filled or treated in some way, its not going to get better by its self or by watching it for a while. Decay causes pains and holes in teeth cause the gums to bleed it the decay is around the gum line. But are you gum bleeding generally everywhere around your mouth ( as per info in OP) or not? If its generalized then you have a gum problem like gingivitis or ANUG or periodontitis, if its localised it a local problem like decay, or local gum problem.

Dont listen to internet twattery. ANUG (if thats what it is) does not mean you have some major problem. I use to see it most often in first year collete students (usually girls)...on the pill, not eating great, not sleeping a lot, exam stress, smoking too much....its the change in oral ecosystem that allows the bacteria to overgrow, its not a reflection that you have a manky gob.

ballsymchugh

ballsymchugh wrote: »

it's the internet. think of some tool writing about their experience while watching house. it sounds like something house talked about, so it's either lupus or some weird bacteria from the back end of beyond that was picked up on a holiday 14 years ago that's decided to go nuts.
whereas real life is a lot more mundane. the other 999,999 cases out of a million are easily diagnosed and easier to treat. don't go scaring yourself.

although could be lupus

Eh...thanks for that.

I'm wondering what in God's name my dentist was thinking? He missed the decay in my check up, I went back to him 2 months later and told him it was decaying, he did the whole 'ah I'm sure it isn't, that would be very unusual for it to happen so quickly' and then told me it actually was slightly decayed. He put something on it and said 'just come back in 6 months.' I looked at it and it's now totally going black/grey/yellow, looks 100 times worse than it did before.

Before anyone calls me an idiot, I've been insanely busy with my thesis and other medical problems, and I did see the dentist in JUNE, so not even 8 weeks ago, about acid erosion and he made no comment on the wisdom tooth.

Kallie Plump Trombone

Kallie Plump Trombone wrote: »

well if you know there is decay there get it filled or treated in some way, its not going to get better by its self or by watching it for a while. Decay causes pains and holes in teeth cause the gums to bleed it the decay is around the gum line. But are you gum bleeding generally everywhere around your mouth ( as per info in OP) or not? If its generalized then you have a gum problem like gingivitis or ANUG or periodontitis, if its localised it a local problem like decay, or local gum problem.

I said it in the OP, its literally in all four corners of my mouth. The pain on the lower left side is on top of the gum where my wisdom tooth used to be (not on the bottom), the pain on the right side is where my 2nd molar used to be, and next to the manky wisdom tooth, the pain at the top two corners is right up at the very top, like an inch or so above my teeth, around where the molars are.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Clenching or grinding ?

OK I checked in the mirror, can't see much at the bottom but above the molars on the upper teeth, it looks like the gum is torn and on one side it's bleeding quite badly just above the molar. The rest of my gums look pink and fairly normal.

Kallie Plump Trombone

Kallie Plump Trombone wrote: »

Clenching or grinding ?

I apparently do both in my sleep. I was supposed to be getting a mouthguard for that soon.

So it's not ANUG and apparently I do not have gingivitis at all. I kept trying to tell the last dentist that and he wouldn't bloody listen. I always have pain as well as bleeding so that doesn't indicate gingivitis. I had to go for medical tests and stuff and they're looking into it now. Thanks for the advice, I'm glad I went into the emergency dentist.

ballsymchugh

a few other things came into mind, but you're too young for most of them. at least you're getting it sorted. let us know what it is!!