A word of warning for those with new Desires

partyatmygaff

People with Desires bought recently (August 1st onwards) should know that their phone comes with an SLCD and not an AMOLED screen. This in itself isn't what i'm warning you about. All the new SLCD phones come with HBOOT 0.83 and HBOOT 0.92 which cause issues if you try and root.

If you root a HBOOT 0.83 or HBOOT 0.92 phone your phone display will stop working in all modes. If you'd like to root your phone then you must set the following as a custom recovery in unrevoked

http://crop.floodbit.org/~defer/recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.1-bravo-slcd.img

Trying to flash the normal recovery menu using unrevoked will disable your phone's screen.

Kenno90

God you scared the hell out of me:eek:

Will keep that in mind don't think i'll be rooting it for a while anyways

osnola ibax

Should maybe be stickied

Nekro Man

is SLCD better or worse than AMOLDED?

Blackdragon

Wasnt HBOOT 0.83 included in the latest OWA 2.2 updates for desires regardless of when bought?

partyatmygaff

Blackdragon wrote: »

Wasnt HBOOT 0.83 included in the latest OWA 2.2 updates for desires regardless of when bought?

I believe it was 0.92 (But I may be wrong)

Those that did OTA updates aren't going to be rooting anyway so it doesn't really apply.

groom

Nekro Man wrote: »

is SLCD better or worse than AMOLDED?

Sounds like the slcd screen are replacing the amoled screens to allow HTC to ramp up production. Are they inferior?

kippy

groom wrote: »

Sounds like the slcd screen are replacing the amoled screens to allow HTC to ramp up production. Are they inferior?

I had heard that these new screen were better in sunlight, but I could be completly incorrect in that.

MarcusFenix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smgaw1MMvpM&feature=player_embedd

hobochris

AFAIK, the new screens are better in sunlight but the Colors aren't as good.

hobochris

MarcusFenix wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smgaw1MMvpM

MarcusFenix

Spanx, im terarded, how did you sort that??

hobochris

MarcusFenix wrote: »

Spanx, im terarded, how did you sort that??

You just snip the video code (the code after the v=) from the url and put it into youtube tags.

MarcusFenix

Ha, cheers!

partyatmygaff

hobochris wrote: »

AFAIK, the new screens are better in sunlight but the Colors aren't as good.

And there's a bit of backlight leak as well.

Just an update

Those with HBOOT 0.83 can now root safely using this method.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748618

Those with HBOOT 0.92 cannot (As of yet) root their phone.

ooPabsoo

i was going to buy a desire within the next few weeks,should i still buy it? or are the new screens crap?

partyatmygaff

ooPabsoo wrote: »

i was going to buy a desire within the next few weeks,should i still buy it? or are the new screens crap?

They're better than AMOLED for sunlight readability. Worse for colours though.

Kenno90

partyatmygaff wrote: »

They're better than AMOLED for sunlight readability. Worse for colours though.

battery is better too;)

ooPabsoo

i might just go for the samsung wave...120 euro cheaper on PAYG, some decent reviews aswel:D

partyatmygaff

ooPabsoo wrote: »

i might just go for the samsung wave...120 euro cheaper on PAYG, some decent reviews aswel:D

Except it runs bada instead of Android and the fact it feels pretty crap in the hand (As do most Samsung Phones)

Abelloid

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And there's a bit of backlight leak as well.

Just an update

Those with HBOOT 0.83 can now root safely using this method.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748618

Those with HBOOT 0.92 cannot (As of yet) root their phone.

Ah sh!te. Mine just came back from HTC with HBOOT 0.92.

Going to try downgrading it now...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256

Abelloid

....aaaaand you're back in the room.

0.92 downgraded, rooted and restored with LeeDroid 1.8 (need to update it now)



Wasn't too bad, had a problem with Unrevoked and had to uninstall HTC Sync to allow it to work.

Zascar

Guys I got my phone on Monday - how do I check which version it is? I want to root but don't want to risk problems

Abelloid

Zascar wrote: »

Guys I got my phone on Monday - how do I check which version it is? I want to root but don't want to risk problems

Power down. Hold the volume down button and power button together until it starts up again, on the bootloader screen the version number is at the top somewhere.

Kenno90

Zascar wrote: »

Guys I got my phone on Monday - how do I check which version it is? I want to root but don't want to risk problems

Did you buy it online or in a shop?

Zascar

Bought it in an 02 shop as an upgrade. I checked as per Justin's advice and its a 0.83 - lucky there is a fix but the whole thing just seems pretty daunting to me right now. I'll prob do it eventually but for now I'm just enjoying getting to know Android. It kicks the iPhones ass so hard it's not even funny. I can't believe I'm only learning about this now.

Edit: I've already got the "Low On Space" message ugh

Abelloid

I think the 02 ones are branded so there might be more work involved, enjoy it as it is until you feel you absolutely have to have root access. :pac:

Kenno90

Zascar wrote: »

Bought it in an 02 shop as an upgrade. I checked as per Justin's advice and its a 0.83 - lucky there is a fix but the whole thing just seems pretty daunting to me right now. I'll prob do it eventually but for now I'm just enjoying getting to know Android. It kicks the iPhones ass so hard it's not even funny. I can't believe I'm only learning about this now.

Edit: I've already got the "Low On Space" message ugh

Nice i'm currently waiting on meteor. O2 have terrible bill pay deals if you ask me.

How many apps did you get on it before you got the Low on Space indicator Suppose you tried moving certain apps to the SD card.

The one great advantage of rooting is IMO app2sd+:D

Zascar

partyatmygaff wrote: »

And there's a bit of backlight leak as well.

Just an update

Those with HBOOT 0.83 can now root safely using this method.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748618

Those with HBOOT 0.92 cannot (As of yet) root their phone.

I just gave this a go but it did not work. Typical. Seems straight forward and everyone else in the thread was able to do it but it did not work for me!

When at step 9 I plug it in I get a "Found new hardware wizard" looking for "ADB" - anyone know what that is or how I fix it?

Basq

Zascar wrote: »

I just gave this a go but it did not work. Typical. Seems straight forward and everyone else in the thread was able to do it but it did not work for me!

When at step 9 I plug it in I get a "Found new hardware wizard" looking for "ADB" - anyone know what that is or how I fix it?

I got the same message.

Did you install HTC Sync at the beginning? This installs that driver.

Basically, install HTC Sync and uninstall it before using Unrevoked.

You should be fine then.

Abelloid

Zascar wrote: »

I just gave this a go but it did not work. Typical. Seems straight forward and everyone else in the thread was able to do it but it did not work for me!

When at step 9 I plug it in I get a "Found new hardware wizard" looking for "ADB" - anyone know what that is or how I fix it?

When you get to the new hardware wizard you need to install this driver -

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install

Zascar

Thanks, I tried that. I installed the HTC Sync drivers and then uninstalled them but now when I plug it in the Found New Hardware Wizard looks for "My HTC"

Hmmm ???

Zascar

Wahey I did it! Man that was a pain. Thanks for your help guys much appreciated!

Ok now what lol?? I want to load a good rom - but no idea which one or how do do it!

Abelloid

I like the LeeDroid ROMs -

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703

Download the .zip, copy to your SD card.

Then install ROM manager from the market and follow the intructions 'Install ROM from SD card'.

Then later when you have everything setup as you like it do a complete backup in ROM Manager, this will backup everything so you can't get too messed up.

Zascar

Cool thanks that one looks great! Ok I'm going to give this a go now, just trying t work out exactly how to do it. I have RomManager on now and I'm trying to do a backup of my stock rom first. Do I need to partition my SD before installing? Do I need to backup what is on there now before partitioning?

This lot is fairly confusing but it is interesting and fun! Like most things its hard at the beginning but easy when you know how!

Thanks for all the help btw!

Abelloid

Don't bother backing up until you're set up with all of your apps, widgets, settings etc.

It won't backup your media files and pics etc. on the SD, it will just take a snapshot of the phone in it's current state and back that up. ROM manager can partition the SD (ext3) for moving apps that allow SD installation.

When I try a new ROM I usually just login to Google, load a few must have apps (Handcent, Swype, EStrongs etc.) setup my text input methods and widgets and then backup. I can then switch from one ROM to another in about 10 minutes, with no hassle.

funnyclub

It says on the O2 website that the desire screen is amoled?
Are they still amoled as I was thinking of changing my 3Gs for one.

Basq

funnyclub wrote: »

It says on the O2 website that the desire screen is amoled?
Are they still amoled as I was thinking of changing my 3Gs for one.

Don't think they've been AMOLED for a few months now..

.. I've say it's more likely that O2 haven't upgraded their specs.

I got one from them in the last few weeks.. and pretty sure it's SLCD.