Renault Window Regulator...Help Needed with installation PLEASE

Markrobertmcg

Hi guys, I've read most of the threads and cant believe the problem is that popular with these cars. I need help please.

Same thing happened to my megavan recently. The window wound down n then stopped working alltogether. I took the inside panel off and wound the window back up myself by taking the motor cover off and winding the rotor by hand. I brought the car to Windsor motors, a Nissan dealer in Raheny last week to get it fixed and they quoted me 560 euro to supply and fit a new regulator.:eek: I obviously refused and paid 50 euro to get my car back.:cool: Renualt dealer in Airside quoted me the same price. I'm not a mechanic but an electrician so I thought I'd at least give it a go. I sourced a regulator from southside motor spares in Dun Laoghaire for 120. I wasn't sure at this stage weather it was just a problem with the regulator alone. On inspection the cables were off the spools on the regulator in my van but I suspect that the nissan dealer must have done this when looking at it because it worked fine when I wound the window up by hand previously. Surprise surprise, turns out the new regulator made no difference which brought me to the motor. I took it apart and noticed that the brush's were missing...how did that happen:eek: I am still considering putting a hit out on the mechanic and the sevice department rep at the Nissan dealer.:mad::rolleyes: I sourced a used motor from Joe Boland on the old airport road for 80euro (seen as you cannot get the brush's alone). I tried to price a motor from Airside Renualt but they informed me that you cannot buy the motor separate. They only sell the regulator and the motor together which costs 310euro. :mad:
Tried the motor and it would only wind down in one direction whichever way you push the switch and would only do so for a second and then stop. I then though it was the black box( it has all the characteristics of a controller ,example, bread board with electronic components) that connects onto the motor. Had to go back to Joe Boland and get that for 30 euro. Fitted it today and now the motor is turning in both directions but still for only a second each way Note that the motor is not fixed to the new regulator.

Can anyone please give me a solution to this problem. I'm physically and mentally deteriorating, I have begun to loose weight, also my hair is falling out and turning grey at the same time

Yarnhall

You've tried everything bar the switch on the door :pac:

Markrobertmcg

Hi Yarnhall,

Thanks for the reply! What you say is very true, I have considered it but I'm very sceptical about it for a few reasons. Do you know much about these Renault systems? I want to see if anyone has any other suggestions before I buy a new switch.

Thanks guys

Yarnhall

Markrobertmcg wrote: »

Hi Yarnhall,

Thanks for the reply! What you say is very true, I have considered it but I'm very sceptical about it for a few reasons. Do you know much about these Renault systems? I want to see if anyone has any other suggestions before I buy a new switch.

Thanks guys

Not got a clue lol, sorry, can you jump the cables going into the switch??

fmcattack

recently fixed a window in a renault laguna.

The cables were fraid and caught up inside teh motor.

i bought this kit off ebay and

http://cgi.ebay.ie/LAGUNA-II-2-MEGANE-ELECTRIC-WINDOW-REGULATOR-REPAIR-KIT-/150381710561?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230372cce1

Was awkward to fix but got there in the end....i fell your pain

Also you have to reset the swith if i remeb correctly....ill try find the instructions i got as this might be your problem

fmcattack

here is a pdf of the instructions i had

Note the last part of the instructions 'Resetting Window key'

Markrobertmcg

Hi fmcattack, I just read through your manual and it looks very promising Seen as it describes my installation and operation down to a tee, before resetting the window memory! I'll give it a go and let you know if it's successful Thanks

Markrobertmcg

Thanks Yarnhall for the help, but I think I'm onto a winner with fmcattack!

Markrobertmcg

Ok guys thanks for your input. Fmcattack you were spot on with the installation document you sent me thanks a mill

So the problem was that the switch needed to be reset which I never would have figured out how to do myself. All in all it cost me 280euro, 120 for the new reg, 80 for the new motor, 30 for the black box whatever it's called( maybe relay box) and 50 for the Nissan dealer to tell me I needed a whole new reg and motor.

The job should have only cost me 30 euro to replace the relay box. I didn't need a new reg until the origional one was damaged at the dealer and I didn't need a new motor for the same reason (unless I damaged the brush's when I re-inserted the rotor and windings back into the motor housing after I initially wound up the window by hand, which is quite possible).

I think Renault are laughing all the way to the bank with this design flaw and as most people who have posted about this all say the regulators only last about 5 years in most models. As stated before Renault don't sell the parts I mentioned separately, you got to pay 310 for the whole package. If I had of bought the parts off Renualt I would have saved 30 euro, but If I had of put it in for the dealer to fix it would have cost me 560. I don't know which way to look at this, I saved 280 euro from not giving it to Renault to fix but lost 200 euro buying parts that I did not need.

Moral of the story is don't buy a Renault and that you can never trust a reputable dealer to carry out repair works unless you fully now what the problem is yourself. I find it hard to believe that the Renault dealer could not have pinpointed the problem to the relay box and just replaced it, instead they would have charged me for the whole system replacement even though it was obviously not necessary.

If anybody finds that they have the same problem in their amazing Renaults I would suggest doing the job yourself. It was not all hard to do the labour but you can run into some problems. The new motor that I connected up today was turning in the wrong direction, maybe it was a passenger side motor. I had to remove the motor shaft housing and turn it around to change the polarity in the magnets that are on either side of the housing. Also be careful not to damage the brushes if you do have to play around with the motor. If you have to change the motor make sure that the spool that winds the cables off the reg together does not pop off and unwind as it is nearly impossible to fix on the model of van I have. The replacement reg was a lot safer and easier to fit because there was not as much of a danger in the spool coming free from the motor. You will need to remove the door panels and the glass also. FMCattack left a great pdf file of instructions how to repair the cable on a Laguna which helped me finish the job. All models of renault are usually the same principle.

One last thing, I have an 05 Renault Megavan for sale at 4000euro, any takers???:D