How do you ?

Cakes.

How do you get involved in Politics ?

Zambia

Cakesofrice wrote: »

How do you get involved in Politics ?

Join a party

meditraitor

Cakesofrice wrote: »

How do you get involved in Politics ?

Is there any specific reason you want to get involved in politics?

Notorious97

One can make alot of money.....

hallelujajordan

Cakesofrice wrote: »

How do you get involved in Politics ?

http://www.fiannafail.ie/page/s/jointheparty
:D

ciagr297

i think you need to ask yourself how you'd like to be involved in politics

questions such as
do you want to be a politician? affliated to a particular party?
do you want to be an independent political analyst/commentator?
do you want to be involved in a party but not necessarily as a politican?

answering these will probably clarify which direction you should be taking

Cakes.

ciagr297 wrote: »

i think you need to ask yourself how you'd like to be involved in politics

questions such as
do you want to be a politician? affliated to a particular party?
do you want to be an independent political analyst/commentator?
do you want to be involved in a party but not necessarily as a politican?

answering these will probably clarify which direction you should be taking

Yes i would like to be a politician...
Not really
No as a politician

Iwasfrozen

Cakesofrice wrote: »

How do you get involved in Politics ?

You have to be born into it.

Lockstep

Cakesofrice wrote: »

Yes i would like to be a politician...
Not really
No as a politician

Becoming a politician is extremely tough.

Unless you're very well known in your local area, you'd most likely need to join a political party

nuac

Here is one way to develope a political career

1. Get on a good GAA team that wins something. Also join a plethora of community organisations. Always be around when photographs are being taken of their good works and newsworthy projects.

2. About 18 months before the next local elections drop hints that you are under pressure from various ( unnamed ) people to stand for the Council.
Deny that you have any interest. Issue these denials publicly and often on suitable occasions.

3. Eventually one or other of the political organisations will contact you. Go with the party that has the oldest councillor(s) in your area.

4. When you do join the party keep denying modestly at cumann/branch meetings that you are interested in a nomination - keep saying you are there to learn from your elders and betters, to serve your time etc

5. Attend all party meetings and functions. Stay on in the bar after meetings, tell however you are talking to how much you admire their work, and pick up the gossip. Find out all the linkages, relationships, and enmities in your local organisation. Meanwhile keep (1) above going.

6. Keep mentioning to other members that you are under pressure to go forward for nomination to the Council elections.

7. By this stage if you have increased your local profile the local party elders will have decided that it is better to have you in the tent pXssing out than outside pxssing in - i.e. support for a nomination may be offered in case you go independent.

8. Assuming you do get a nomination, attach yourself like glue to the senior councillor when canvassing and learn from him/her. Be very modest about your ambitions when canvasssing, but when meeting the same voters later mention that the senior councillor is "safe, home and dried" whereas you need every vote. Get your friends and relations on the same message.

9. Keep repeating 1-8 until elected, and for Dáil elections repeat above mutatis mutandis, with the possible addition of going for the party's national executive. That enables you to tell all at home how well you know the top people in the party, and can be useful in getting put on the ticket for a Dáil election if you don't get through convention.

10. Read Jack Lynch's biography. As far as I can recall he kept denying at each stage that he was interested in going further in politics. I believe he was genuine in that, but the stronger the denials, the larger the support group become.

Good luck.

simplistic2

So basically do absolutely noting for you community except flap about and be seen hanging around with the right people. Christ even the steps to becoming a politician are all about bull****ting everyone for personal gain.

Why do you want to work as a politician?

nuac

Nuac is off tongue in cheek to watch the hurling, hoping that none of his/her political friends recognise him/her

Overheal

Cakesofrice wrote: »

How do you get involved in Politics ?

start brushing up on current events, read the news, read the forums, read the wikipedias for **** you dont know but you really ought to.

Liam Byrne

nuac wrote: »

Nuac is off tongue in cheek to watch the hurling, hoping that none of his/her political friends recognise him/her

You'll make a perfect candidate for an Irish politician if you're even sitting on the fence on the matter of your own sex!!!

Wide Road

A problem with democracy is that their isn't a party for everyone. Some like to bash the govt (for example) and do nothing else. Others have beliefs and try to follow their beliefs through the party mode. But the worst of all is the ones that claim to have no party. These people are to be avoided. Finally I wish you well on your venture into politics because you'll need it. If you get involved in a party remember (these words) if things are not going according to your plan," Its better to have lived and loved, than to have never loved at all". Other posters please take note.

PomBear

Cakesofrice wrote: »

Yes i would like to be a politician...
Not really
No as a politician

I don't know the OP but as someone involved in politics, surely your common goal shouldn't be a career in politics. My being in politics revolves around the belief I am making a difference for the good of Irish people, and someday if i'm elected as a politician, I can make more of a difference but i'm happy with the fact i'm making a difference as it is. Going into politics for a career is a very bad moral move imo when you consider the careerist politicians we have in the Dáil.

That is speculation from your posts, I could well be wrong.

Anyways, the party you can see yourself joining should have an email address on their website, email them and ask where is you're local party cumann/branch and who runs it, get in contact with that person and there you go.

Lockstep

Politics really isn't a good career movie. It's too tempermental and takes ages to get into.

You'd be best off doing something else and possibly moving into it when you're established in another career.

civildefence

hallelujajordan wrote: »

http://www.fiannafail.ie/page/s/jointheparty
:D

Someone once asked me if I knew how to become a rich, powerful gangster who, no matter what crime he commits will remain immune from state prosecution.

I posted the very same link to that man.

ciagr297

Cakesofrice wrote: »

Yes i would like to be a politician...
Not really
No as a politician

ok, so you know what you want to do.
out of interest, why do you want to be a politican? what is your motivating reason?

nuac

Re Liam Byrne's post.

Yes Liam, I was in aspiring politician mode having made that long post which distilled my observations of the political scene over the years.

The aspiring politician adopts no position which cannot be later denied, fudges everything, goes a bit of the road with everyone, appears to agree with whoever (s)he is talking to. ( vide Bertie Aherne ). E.g about the hurling match - "two great teams and the ref linesmen and umpires had a great match too."

In particular the aspiring politician will not make some remark like "Kilkenny bet Cork off the field". There are Cork people everywhere, even in deepest Mayo. Kilkenny people seem to stay in their own county.

If there is no fence the aspiring politician will build it so (s)he may sit on it. - it will be called a party wall, to avoid offending landowners on either side.

See - after a while this stuff becomes second nature!

ei.sdraob

hallelujajordan wrote: »

http://www.fiannafail.ie/page/s/jointheparty
:D

hmm maybe alot of us should join up and bring the party down from the inside?

Liam Byrne

OP, if you have a belief as to how Ireland could be better, then go independent, because the whole party mentality in Ireland seems to suck the good ones in and ruin them....look at all the people condoning corruption in FF, or even the fact that George Lee seemed to hit a wall when FG weren't prepared to change the current status quo.

There is no need for parties, just decent people.

If you are one of those, then best of luck in your career.

Wide Road wrote:

But the worst of all is the ones that claim to have no party. These people are to be avoided.

I know I'm probably going to regret ignoring my own ignore setting, reading and asking, but what is the above supposed to mean ?

What does "claim" mean in that sentence ? Does it mean that you don't believe that someone could actually not have a party affiliation ?

While I would agree that those who "claim" this and yet have (and there appear to be a good few of those on boards) should be avoided, what about the people who genuinely have no party affiliation, and would prefer to vote for - possibly independent - candidates who actually offer something; those whose hands won't be tied by bull**** party whips which force them to vote against their ethics and promises ?

Wide Road

I love it and indeed smile when posters pick out a word of a post and then reply, totally ignoring the other parts of the post. Then they look for an explaination (no less) of that one big word. In the meantime they ignore the points that they themselves have been asked to explain. Strange but true. On the title thread I would encourage anyone to get involved in politics. However one must consider several options, ie Is one single or has partner agreed for many lonely nights, age and even to see what rivals are in your constituency. Is there seats up for grabs or is it predictable. This may not seem important now but keep it in mind.

Denerick

How do you get into politics? Don't. Party politics is a contagion of slime and ambition. Virtuous men and women would be better off working in the non profit charity sector rather than muddying their feet with the crowd of semi aristocrats, arrogant gombeen men and little Irelanders that plague our parliament.

mikemac

Go for it OP

You face being heckled on the streets.
Every dark winter night, every NIMBY, local association or attention seeker will demand your presence at their meetings. You'll rarely be at home in the evenings.

People will complain if you're not seen at local meetings, events and funerals.
People will also complain if you do show up and why are you not concentrating on what you were elected to do. Back to Dublin bai

The party whip will own your ass so do as you're told!

And face rejection every few years

But if you make it to the top and can hang on a few years for a pension the rewards are mega :pac: