Clonsilla Road: Reopening to Two-Way Traffic

dmcguinn3

The road will be opening from 12 noon today Wednesday 4th August. This is great news for Blanchardstown. See the details below:

http://www.davidmcguinness.ie/clonsilla-road-reopening-to-two-way-traffic

Swampy

Horray. Its about time.

Pat Dunne

Now that we have a Fianna Fáil politian posting on the boards, I would like to ask a question.

At the July meeting of Fingal County Council, Councillors voted for to re-zone an area in Swords so that Gannon Homes can submit a future planning application for 3400 new homes?

Could I ask what is reasoning behind this re-zoning? Surely there are enough unsold homes in Fingal without adding to them. Or am I missing something?

I know this is off topic but if the Mods could let the thread develop before splitting it

mysons

Pat
Dont' waste your time,he will not answer as he's not allowed to do so by the great leader Blubber Cowen,Just be patient an election will be soon and country will vent it's anger at this corrupt party and it's partners.

Meat

I wonder how much money went into making that road one-way and reverting back to two-way.

Gaspode

Pat Dunne wrote: »

I know this is off topic but if the Mods could let the thread develop before splitting it

mysons wrote: »

Pat
Dont' waste your time,he will not answer as he's not allowed to do so by the great leader Blubber Cowen,Just be patient an election will be soon and country will vent it's anger at this corrupt party and it's partners.

Sorry guys, those replies are too far off-topic - The responses in this thread should be kept to the original topic, i.e. Clonsilla road re-opening.


I suggest you take your questions/comments up in the politics forum, or start a new thread on the re-zoning subject in the Dublin county north forum where it might be of more interest.

Diddler1977

~Used the road today - boy was it good not to have to go in to the centre traffic when going from Clonsilla to Blanchardstown. Am very happy to have it open again!

mysons

Gaspode wrote: »

Sorry guys, those replies are too far off-topic - The responses in this thread should be kept to the original topic, i.e. Clonsilla road re-opening.


I suggest you take your questions/comments up in the politics forum, or start a new thread on the re-zoning subject in the Dublin county north forum where it might be of more interest.

The fact that the FF Councilor only joined BOARDS in August 2010 the same month that the road opened seems to me that we should keep it open as he may have alot to say about D15.

Powerhouse

Pat Dunne wrote: »

Now that we have a Fianna Fáil politian posting on the boards, I would like to ask a question.

At the July meeting of Fingal County Council, Councillors voted for to re-zone an area in Swords so that Gannon Homes can submit a future planning application for 3400 new homes?

Could I ask what is reasoning behind this re-zoning? Surely there are enough unsold homes in Fingal without adding to them. Or am I missing something?

I know this is off topic but if the Mods could let the thread develop before splitting it

I don't get the "now that we have a Fianna Fáil politian posting on the boards, I would like to ask a question" bit. Are you not capabale of asking questions of others?

The major power broker on Fingal County Council overall is the Labour Party, and the Labour Party/Socialist group has 3 of the 5 seats in Swords. They ultimately have a veto on all such decisions so they are the ones to explain that to you as of course you should know.

Let responsibility for these decisions lie where they were made. Perhaps when you speak to Patrick Nulty or Michael O'Donovan you might encourage them to come on here and explain that decision?

Random

how's this working out then?

Rosser

Random wrote: »

how's this working out then?

So far so good, saving lots of time avoiding the level crossing at Coolmine

The only cloud on the horizon is when the schools reopen the traffic tends to back up on the bridge around at Fernleigh.

spooky donkey

well road opening good, fina fail bad....

Bout time it opened really. No good reason for it. It just gives D15 locals more options to avoid traffic now.

BostonB

spooky donkey wrote: »

well road opening good, fina fail bad....

Bout time it opened really. No good reason for it. It just gives D15 locals more options to avoid traffic now.

Agreed, no reason for it in the first place. So we've had years of inconvenience and the expense of putting it in, and now removing it.

BostonB

Rosser wrote: »

So far so good, saving lots of time avoiding the level crossing at Coolmine

The only cloud on the horizon is when the schools reopen the traffic tends to back up on the bridge around at Fernleigh.

I don't get why it now lets you avoid the level crossing, compared to previously.

IMO, Traffic at that roundabout seems to move a little faster now, giving you less time to pull out. Maybe its my imagination.

The only way to avoid traffic is to get out of the car, onto a train or cycle.

Diddler1977

BostonB wrote: »

The only way to avoid traffic is to get out of the car, onto a train or cycle.

So true, I get around faster and easier on my bike then in the car.

If everyone could think about leaving the car behind it might have a positive effect on traffic.

daymobrew

Diddler1977 wrote: »

So true, I get around faster and easier on my bike then in the car.

Me too - and I can take shortcuts that are closed to cars (closed road between Coolmine Road and Grove Road, then Grove Road to Blanch Centre; Whites Gate Road into Phoenix Park; laneway between Roselawn Road and Rushbrook behind Superquinn).

dtf

spooky donkey wrote: »

well road opening good, fina fail bad....

Bout time it opened really. No good reason for it. It just gives D15 locals more options to avoid traffic now.

Don't see what this has to do with Fianna Fail. These decisions are taken at a local council level, something which FF has had very little say on for quite some time.

Napper Hawkins

That's great news!

What utter ****wit thought making it one-way in the first place was a good idea?

Nevyn

The rationale was to preserve Clonsilla village.

Pat Dunne

Thaedydal wrote: »

The rationale was to preserve Clonsilla village.

Can you direct me with a link to the article that states this?

BostonB

Thaedydal wrote: »

The rationale was to preserve Clonsilla village.

Er what?

Building a few hundred thousand houses and appartments, makes that kinda tricky.

JoePie

They didn't build them in Clonsilla village. It was supposed to cut traffic on Clonsilla Road. I used to go down that way with in the car with my mam when I went to Francis Xaviers. Absolute nightmare. It worked for a little while, but then the traffic just got nuts at Coolmine. And now with the Ongar Road pulling traffic from the N3, it makes sense to open this road again so Coolmine doesn't become a carpark.

BostonB

JoePie wrote: »

They didn't build them in Clonsilla village. ....

Doesn't matter. Most of the traffiic thats going through clonsilla isn't going to stop in the village even now. its through traffic going to lucan, and Ongar, etc. Its till backs up at peak.

Why? All the over development.

Nevyn

It was done as traffic calming measures for clonsilla village and blanchardstown village it was felt the level of traffic through was having a negative impact, was put in place the end of 1999.

http://www.kierandennison.com/2009/08/history-of-clonsilla-road-one-way.html

Extract from County Council meeting 25 October 2001

It was proposed by Councillor S. Terry, seconded by Councillor G. Lynam: -
"That this Committee recommends that the Manager should report on the impact of the one way system on the portion of Clonsilla Road from the junction at Blanchardstown Road South to the "Fire Station" road"

The following report by the Manager was READ: -

"The Roads and Traffic Committee at its meeting held on 22nd November 1999 was informed that the detailed design for the Blanchardstown Quality Bus Corridor and Cycle Route had been completed by the Councils Consultants and that the contract for the works was awarded to South Midland Construction Limited. The Committee was also informed that following evaluation of the detailed design proposals and further consultations with the Dublin Transportation Office, Dublin Bus and An Garda Siochana that the Councils Consultants were asked to consider additional bus priority and traffic calming measures in a number of areas. The areas examined included the location referred to in the Motion. The provision of traffic calming measures (one-way system westwards) on Clonsilla Road from its junction at Porters Road to the roundabout at the junction of Clonsilla Road and Blanchardstown Road South was recommended.

The Roads and Traffic Committee resolved: -
That the proposals be put on public display as part of the public consultation process.

The plans and particulars of the proposals were available for inspection from Tuesday, 30th November 1999 to Tuesday 21st December 1999 at the Councils Offices at 46/49 Upper OConnell Street, Dublin 1, the Blanchardstown Public Library, Roselawn Shopping Centre and the Council Offices at Main Street, Blanchardstown. Representations were invited to be made in writing to the County Council by 7th January 2000.

A report on the representations received, including the representations received in relation to the proposed one-way system at Clonsilla Road was submitted to the Roads and Traffic Committee at its meeting held on 24th January 2000. The Councils response to representations in relation to the proposed one-way system indicated that the proposals will lead to an improved environment for residents and that the alternative routes are acceptable.

The Committee adopted and approved the report and the one-way system was brought into operation at the beginning of September of this year.

The introduction of the one-way system has achieved the objective of a reduction in traffic volumes using Blanchardstown Main Street and Clonsilla Road.

In the initial stages the new traffic layout gave rise to complaints from commuters at peak times. The level of complaint has considerably reduced over recent weeks. However it is proposed to continue to monitor the operation of the one-way system and to effect any necessary further improvements."

Following discussion, the Committee NOTED the foregoing report.

The Committee also requested that consideration be given to the following matters: -

1. Provision of right turning lane from Clonsilla Road onto Shelerin Road;
2. Operation of right turning lane from Clonsilla Road onto Coolmine Road;
3. Traffic Management at the junction of Blanchardstown Road South/Link Road to Snugborough Road Extension including operation of traffic signals at this location.

BostonB

It just pushed the traffic onto the other roads in the area. Arguably less suitable roads.

The traffic was still there, because they kept developing.

Nevyn

I know, the Ongar development is a complete disaster in terms of how it effected services
and infrastructure.

daymobrew

"That this Committee recommends that the Manager should report on the impact of the one way system on the portion of Clonsilla Road from the junction at Blanchardstown Road South to the "Fire Station" road"

I cannot believe that there still isn't an official name for "Fire Station road"