Quote for repairing clutch on 2006 VW Golf 1.9Tdi - Gobsmacked?

Deedsie

Hi,

Hoping someone could just reassure me I am not gonna get robbed. There is an awful shudder in the engine/clutch for the last two days. I had it booked into the vw dealer Thursday to take a look. But in the meantime a local mechanic took a look. Quoted me €1150 for a new clutch. I'm gutted, but will it be cheaper with him than with the vw dealer?

Should I just strike while the iron is hot and get it sorted? Does it sound reasonable at all?

Ferris

Deedsie wrote: »

Hi,

Hoping someone could just reassure me I am not gonna get robbed. There is an awful shudder in the engine/clutch for the last two days. I had it booked into the vw dealer Thursday to take a look. But in the meantime a local mechanic took a look. Quoted me €1150 for a new clutch. I'm gutted, but will it be cheaper with him than with the vw dealer?

Seems expensive, my da got a Dual mass flywheel and clutch done for about 850quid a while ago on an A6 2l tdi. Sounds like the flywheel is gone in yours, its a common problem.

I would defo change the clutch and DMF at the same time.

homer90

Walsh motors in Belfast. FTW...
Assuming it can make it to Belfast .

Deedsie

homer90 wrote: »

Walsh motors in Belfast. FTW...
Assuming it can make it to Belfast .

I'd be deaf from the engine by the time I made it up to Belfast. Thanks for the tip though. I am just gonna get it done, has to be done I'll have it back tomorrow apparently. Sickened though. I'll have to put alot of money in over the next couple of months, sevice, nct, just went over 100000km I'm sure the belt will need looking at.

Andrew33

Deedsie wrote: »

I'd be deaf from the engine by the time I made it up to Belfast. Thanks for the tip though. I am just gonna get it done, has to be done I'll have it back tomorrow apparently. Sickened though. I'll have to put alot of money in over the next couple of months, sevice, nct, just went over 100000km I'm sure the belt will need looking at.

Belt shouldn't need to be done until 120,000km on the 1.9 TDi engine and an Indie garage will do it for under €300.

Deedsie

Andrew33 wrote: »

Belt shouldn't need to be done until 120,000km on the 1.9 TDi engine and an Indie garage will do it for under €300.

That's the belt you are referring to now? For 300? Good to know I'll have a bit of time. Apparently the part is the expensive thing! 850 for that alone.

It was said by the mechanic that this regularly happens to ye new clutch type in VW's. Anyone familiar with that?

Anan1

Does the engine have to come out for the clutch/flywheel job? If so, it may be easier to do the TB at the same time.

johnpawl

Cost me e1100 to replace clutch on saab 93 vector, including labour (including DMF). That was my local mechanic, not saab garage

Deedsie

johnpawl wrote: »

Cost me e1100 to replace clutch on saab 93 vector, including labour (including DMF). That was my local mechanic, not saab garage

Did you get a quote from the dealer? Do you think it would be better to go with the local guy? Should the clutch in a 4 year old car with 100k on the clock be going?

Andrew33

Anan1 wrote: »

Does the engine have to come out for the clutch/flywheel job? If so, it may be easier to do the TB at the same time.

Engine doesn't need to come out and as timing belt is at opposite end of engine to gearbox/flywheel, no advantage getting it done at same time.

Andrew33

Deedsie wrote: »

That's the belt you are referring to now? For 300? Good to know I'll have a bit of time. Apparently the part is the expensive thing! 850 for that alone.

It was said by the mechanic that this regularly happens to ye new clutch type in VW's. Anyone familiar with that?

Who quoted you €850 for a timing belt?:D:D:D the timing belt kit is under €100 and its a 2-3 hours labour. South Dublin Autos on the South Circular Rd in Dublin know this engine inside out and charged me under €300 the last time I got it done.

Deedsie

Andrew33 wrote: »

Who quoted you €850 for a timing belt?:D:D:D the timing belt kit is under €100 and its a 2-3 hours labour. South Dublin Autos on the South Circular Rd in Dublin know this engine inside out and charged me under €300 the last time I got it done.

No no, 850 for the parts involved in changing the clutch. Never got a quote for the timing belt. Just out of curiosity how did you know it was time to change the timing belt?

Andrew33

Deedsie wrote: »

No no, 850 for the parts involved in changing the clutch. Never got a quote for the timing belt. Just out of curiosity how did you know it was time to change the timing belt?

Check your service book. It'll tell you what needs to be done and when.

Deedsie

Sorry guys, I can now confirm what's actually being done. The dual mass fly wheel is being replaced and a new clutch kit is being installed and I am hoping he will reset my air bag light free of charge all for €1150. does that sound reasonable? I rang the vw dealer and requested a quote for the above works. I am waiting on a response to the issue. If I go with the local guy I'll have it back tomorrow if there is not much difference in the price I will just go with the local guy for convenience sake.

VW dealer quoted me €1240

Deedsie

Deedsie wrote: »

Should the clutch in a 4 year old car with 100k on the clock be going?

DMF went on a 2005 Mondeo I had at 5 months old with 20K km on it.

itarumaa

Don´t want to insult anyone, but this kind of figures takes a lot of interest away to actually buy a modern diesel car,

over 1k for clutch is crazy money

alias no.9

itarumaa wrote: »

Don´t want to insult anyone, but this kind of figures takes a lot of interest away to actually buy a modern diesel car,

over 1k for clutch is crazy money

More to the point, if you're buying a diesel, get an auto.

itarumaa

alias no.9 wrote: »

More to the point, if you're buying a diesel, get an auto.

That might actually be quite good advice, auto and (turbo)diesel should work fine together. Hard to say, I have never tried it.

Deedsie

itarumaa wrote: »

That might actually be quite good advice, auto and (turbo)diesel should work fine together. Hard to say, I have never tried it.

If I could go back 16 months guys, I would have researched it a bit more.

Would most independent mechanics be able to reset a airbag light on a vw golf? This came on last week also. I am hoping that will be looked at while he is at it

Andrew33

Deedsie wrote: »

Sorry guys, I can now confirm what's actually being done. The dual mass fly wheel is being replaced and a new clutch kit is being installed and I am hoping he will reset my air bag light free of charge all for €1150. does that sound reasonable? I rang the vw dealer and requested a quote for the above works. I am waiting on a response to the issue. If I go with the local guy I'll have it back tomorrow if there is not much difference in the price I will just go with the local guy for convenience sake.

VW dealer quoted me €1240

NO! if there's not much difference in the price, get it done by the main dealer! You'll have a 2 yr manufacturers warranty on the job. €1150 sounds cheap for a Dual Mass Flywheel and clutch job anyway.

Deedsie

Andrew33 wrote: »

NO! if there's not much difference in the price, get it done by the main dealer! You'll have a 2 yr manufacturers warranty on the job. €1150 sounds cheap for a Dual Mass Flywheel and clutch job anyway.

My exact reaction was that. But my father had given the independent mechanic the go ahead and he had the parts ordered. Apparently he is a sound bloke and will stand over his work.

_Kaiser_

alias no.9 wrote: »

More to the point, if you're buying a diesel, get an auto.

itarumaa wrote: »

That might actually be quite good advice, auto and (turbo)diesel should work fine together. Hard to say, I have never tried it.

Well I have one - 2006 VW Passat, 2L TDI with DSG gearbox.

It's great.. smooth, plenty of power and not too heavy on the go-juice!

BUT....I've been quoted about a grand sterling to get my DMF changed by a main VW dealer up North (it'll need doing soon apparently - 135k km on the clock - and there's a rattling sound coming from that area when the car is idling).

Plus she's started to "jerk" a bit at around 1600 RPM (expecially when she's cold) in the last few months. From reading VW forums this seems to be a fairly common thing with no clear cause identified.

I've asked a few independents about it too but they all shy away from the DSG box saying better I let the main dealer do it.

This is despite the car being serviced on-time and by main VW dealers since it was bought.

Deedsie

At least I can take some solace in the fact that it does seem like the price is in line with the industry average. To be fair he is a qualified VW mechanic, knows them well apparently. Hopefully... It better get another 100km out of this dmf.

Bing_IRL

Talk to Clarke Bros Clutches in Belfast before you order parts. VAG tend to use LUK clutches and these guys supply them. It's exactly the same parts as the dealer would supply, but without the VAG stamp. I saved about €500 last year when replacing my clutch and DMF in an Audi.

Got a local indi to install

http://www.yell.com/b/Clarke+Bros+Clutch+Specialists-Brakes+and+Clutches-Belfast-BT28JE-700570/index.html

Best of luck

alias no.9

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Well I have one - 2006 VW Passat, 2L TDI with DSG gearbox.

It's great.. smooth, plenty of power and not too heavy on the go-juice!

BUT....I've been quoted about a grand sterling to get my DMF changed by a main VW dealer up North (it'll need doing soon apparently - 135k km on the clock - and there's a rattling sound coming from that area when the car is idling).

Plus she's started to "jerk" a bit at around 1600 RPM (expecially when she's cold) in the last few months. From reading VW forums this seems to be a fairly common thing with no clear cause identified.

I've asked a few independents about it too but they all shy away from the DSG box saying better I let the main dealer do it.

This is despite the car being serviced on-time and by main VW dealers since it was bought.

A DSG is not a conventional auto, I'm talking about one with a torque converter.

benny_cakes

You would be better off getting a solid flywheel conversion kit. It will never break unlike the dual mass flywheel & will be far cheaper to buy. I think the only disadvantage is that it causes a slight shudder in the clutch.

_Kaiser_

benny_cakes wrote: »

You would be better off getting a solid flywheel conversion kit. It will never break unlike the dual mass flywheel & will be far cheaper to buy. I think the only disadvantage is that it causes a slight shudder in the clutch.

Can those be used in cars with a Dual-Mass one though (like mine)?

benny_cakes

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Can those be used in cars with a Dual-Mass one though (like mine)?

The kits are definately available for the VW 1.9 TDi engine to convert from Dual mass flywheel to solid flywheel. I would suspect that they are also available for other cars where the DMF gives trouble. They're available from www.eurocarparts.com & any half decent motor factor in ireland should be able to get them also.

Deedsie

Job done and car flying it again. The clutch feels so smooth. The Mechanic did mention to me that I will have to do the timing belt soon. He quoted me a price of €350 for the job.

Would this be in line with the average price?

EPM

If it's a proper kit then yes. You need belt and tensioners - possibly water pump. I know the petrols require it, not sure about diesels.

Andrew33

Deedsie wrote: »

Job done and car flying it again. The clutch feels so smooth. The Mechanic did mention to me that I will have to do the timing belt soon. He quoted me a price of €350 for the job.

Would this be in line with the average price?

Ring your local VW dealer with your reg number, they'll tell you at what mileage it needs to be done.
If you think the mileage in your car is genuine there's absolutely no point in getting it done 20,000km early "just in case".

homer90

EPM wrote: »

If it's a proper kit then yes. You need belt and tensioners - possibly water pump. I know the petrols require it, not sure about diesels.

Yep get the water pump done too. Thats a good price actually.

bmw535d

benny_cakes wrote: »

You would be better off getting a solid flywheel conversion kit. It will never break unlike the dual mass flywheel & will be far cheaper to buy. I think the only disadvantage is that it causes a slight shudder in the clutch.

engines designed with dmf's drive horribly with a solid flywheel conversion.
they lurch back when you change gear.

Andrew33

bmw535d wrote: »

engines designed with dmf's drive horribly with a solid flywheel conversion.
they lurch back when you change gear.

And,that extra vibration/shunt ends up somewhere else causing problems.
Manufacturers usually have a fair idea what they're at when they design a new engine or component.

Its a bit like people who used to put tubes inside tubeless tyres because they didn't trust them "new fangled yokes".

no1beemerfan

Are newer cars getting too complicated? It seems the cost of ownership has gone up with new cars as there is more to go wrong and when they do its either very expensive and complicated to repair.

I think I'll be sticking to my 13 yr old car........

eiei0

I have put 60k+ on my 2001 Avensis since I replaced the DMF with a Solid replacment Flywheel and have no problems, car is currently at 201k

Main stealers and most Indy garages will allways recommend sticking with DMF as its more money for them in the long run.