Big Joe - out the gap

conno16

seems as tho he doesn't have the appetite for connaught football
will hand in his notice before the end of the week
in fairness, his hand has prob been forced here a little
it was pretty much a debacle when one takes time to reflect on the big joe project

flahavaj

conno16 wrote: »

seems as tho he doesn't have the appetite for connaught football
will hand in his notice before the end of the week
in fairness, his hand has prob been forced here a little
it was pretty much a debacle when one takes time to reflect on the big joe project

Link to any of this or just speculation?

conno16

c'mon man, all over the media since last weekend

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0804/kernanj_galway.html

even rte reckon hes moving on

the county board wont sack him but are trying to move him on using subtle persuasion
value for money being a key concern at present

Philsopher

Bit of a strange one from the start. Huge commute involved and you would have to question Kernan's knowledge of Galway football before he got involved as surely he knew that they were in team in trouble which would have to be ripped apart and rebuilt before any thoughts of a serious AI push could be entertained. Don't get me wrong - they've got some top quality footballers, just not enough of them. While the season was a disaster, he should be given time to get things right or else what was the point of the whole thing??

conno16

his bank balance is in a healthier state

very foolish decision on the part of the county board
bringing in ger loughnane was one thing, this brought it to a whole new level
i hope they have to pay him off bigtime now to sweep everything under the rug before moving on

Starie1975

A manger will always be rated on his Championship record.

One win - Only for PJ in New York City
One Draw - Only for PJ in Salthill vs Silgo
Two defeats - Silgo away and Wexford at home.

Played four – won one, drew one and lost two. That’s 25% - fail!!!!!

The amount of money (allegedly:D) he getting plus the free flights from Dublin to Galway is going to cost us (the Galway GAA clubs and supports) a lot of money. We are the one’s going to all the matches, clubs forced to buy county board lotto tickets and we didn’t get a voice our option on his appointment. IMO (a few previous post on this matter) he’s gotto go.

His first job was to pick two selectors………………………………………………… …. I'll say no more.

flahavaj

conno16 wrote: »

his bank balance is in a healthier state

very foolish decision on the part of the county board
bringing in ger loughnane was one thing, this brought it to a whole new level
i hope they have to pay him off bigtime now to sweep everything under the rug before moving on

Easy to say in hindsight though. Outside managers can and do work - look at Micko's travels to several counties, Jason Ryan in Wexford, McGeeney in Kildare, davy Fitz in Waterford, Dinny Cahill in Antrim.

How many people called it a foolish decision at the time?

Starie1975

flahavaj wrote: »

How many people called it a foolish decision at the time?

Me. I used to kick a bit of ball with a few lads from Armagh in Melbourne who informed me that it was Joe's back room team that got them the All Ireland. Joe had the speech and the half time team talk but his back room boys got the team going.

P.S. McGeeney being one of them.

Shane10

john o'mahoney to return or kevin walsh pinched from sligo...??? walsh will surely be on the replacement list.

Starie1975

Shane10 wrote: »

john o'mahoney to return or kevin walsh pinched from sligo...??? walsh will surely be on the replacement list.

John O' Mahoney - Ah no! He was super with us and fair play to him but he's got more things on his mind - like getting votes in Mayo, don't think taking the Galway job would help with that.

Walsh - He appiled for the minor job a few years back - I'd love for his to get it but the County board Chairman and Walsh don't get on - I hear.

Someone siad Micko - Maybe but I hope not, I perfer a Galway man. Mulholland is my bet - sorry for the pun. :pac:

Diabhal Beag

Can't say I'm shocked. The man did a great job with Armagh but he had a top panel (the best in the country a few years ago). This time he had a panel consisting of Joyce, an injured Meehan and an under-performing Joe Bergin. I can't blame him too much because the side has been under-performing since we were beaten by Cork in the Q-Finals years ago. It seems to have thrown a wrench in any development.

We have no midfield. The loss of Donnellan has really showed up our weaknesses in general as a team.

TBH Joe could have stayed another year but he hasn't. I think he does have the best interests of Galway at heart but he didn't have the talent to pull this side out of it's slump.

We are quickly heading in the direction of the Laois team. Once great but now they can't get past the Q-Finals of Leinster.

Summary: League seemed adequate but when it came to the championship there were hungrier and better teams.

Kevin Walsh couldn't come home any sooner.

aidan24326

Shane10 wrote: »

john o'mahoney to return or kevin walsh pinched from sligo...??? walsh will surely be on the replacement list.

Can't see O'Mahoney coming back into management in the near future. I doubt he has the time for it anymore with his political commitments and all that.

Kevin Walsh will top the list I'm sure. Whether he'll want it at the moment I don't know. Though he may feel he has done as much as he can with Sligo. But whoever comes in needs to do a cleanout and bring in some new young players for what will effectively be a rebuilding job. We've fallen a long way off the pace over the last couple of years, when you consider that we needed an ageing Joyce to keep us in the game against teams like Sligo and Wexford, teams who are not in the top bracket.

conno16

john maughan and liam mchale also being mentioned

Starie1975

conno16 wrote: »

john maughan and liam mchale also being mentioned

With Fat Larry too. :pac::pac:

toiletduck

Can't see Kevin Walsh leaving Sligo just yet.

Despite a terrible year, I would have thought Joe would have taken another year at it.

Starie1975 wrote: »

John O' Mahoney - Ah no! He was super with us and fair play to him but he's got more things on his mind - like getting votes in Mayo, don't think taking the Galway job would help with that.

theoneeyedman

conno16 wrote: »

john maughan and liam mchale also being mentioned

Oh please yes.... after the fcuk up the commandant did with the Rossies a few years ago, it would be too much to ask for Galway to make the same mistake as we did

Magi11

Kevin Walshs' name will be put forward for every job that comes in the next few years, such has been his impact on Sligo. The question could be for Walsh, managing your county would be the dream job but is he too young to take his ultimate job? Secondly, Galway seem to be meandering (to put it nicely) at the moment and there might be a lot of work for very little reward for the next few years. That said, thngs are so bad that expectations might be at more realistic levels for a few years.

conno16

conno breaks all the big gaa stories

Starie1975

conno16 wrote: »

conno breaks all the big gaa stories

................and all the golf stories.

Submara

As predicted nearly one month ago!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055965929


No loss to Galway football. His 11 month reign was a shambles and has cost the Galway Football Board a small fortune. Leaving aside the financial implications, the Galway team regressed by 3-5 years under his leadership.

There is a lot of dead wood in the Galway Panel but the players aren't as bad as what was shown this year.

Whoever gets the job has an awful lot of work to do so don't expect instant results. I don't think Kevin Walsh should get the job. He is still too inexperienced and Sligo didn't set the world on fire after they defeated Galway. Unfortunately, there are very few ideal candidates out there but the new manager should be from Galway not some journeyman manager looking for another big pay day aka 'The Sven Syndrome'.

My pick would be Alan Mulholland.

PatsytheNazi

I would liked to have seen him give it one more year. Galway have a lack of talent available to them, and to build a new team you'd have to spend a lot of time on the ground in Galway. Time Big Joe doesn't have coming in as an outside man. Once Galway had the injuries they endured this year, they just did not have the replacements.

conno16

liam mchale could be the man though
made an immediate impact with clare this year
has bigtime experience in football and basketball

Submara

conno16 wrote: »

liam mchale could be the man though
made an immediate impact with clare this year
has bigtime experience in football and basketball

You must be joking?

McHale might have been a good player with Ballina & Mayo but what competence would he have to manage or coach Galway?

My dog would be a better candidate than McHale!

WallyGUFC

Where's Mickey Moran atm? I was shocked when Mayo sacked him in 2006.

culchienator

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Where's Mickey Moran atm? I was shocked when Mayo sacked him in 2006.

He's currently managing the Leitrim team, and is set to stay on for another year with them, but his no.2 John Morrison has stepped down.
http://www.leitrimobserver.ie/sport/Morrison-steps-down-from-Leitrim.6456708.jp

O.A.P

We need to build again i'm afraid and its not going to be a quick fix. I hope that whoever gets the job understands that Galway football is simple old type stuff, backs that can defend and clear the ball, a midfield that can field and win the ball and fowards that can shoot and score from anywhere in the opponents half of the field. I think thats what Galway should stay with its the only way they have ever won anything and its great to watch.

theoneeyedman

culchienator wrote: »

He's currently managing the Leitrim team, and is set to stay on for another year with them, but his no.2 John Morrison has stepped down.
http://www.leitrimobserver.ie/sport/Morrison-steps-down-from-Leitrim.6456708.jp

this is an absolute joke from eitrims point of view.....as much as i like to see them wallow in mediocrity M&M's record there over the last 2 years is terrible.....no win in the championship, stuck in Div 4 and not competitive in most games i've seen them during this period. The feeling on the ground among clubmen in leitrim is tha they should not have been given another year, but i guess mickey has 35-40000 reasons to continue.......

yerayeah

In fairness I don't think you can be too critical of Leitrim's performance this year given the circumstances, and it's not like they're ever going to be world beaters anyway...

flahavaj

conno16 wrote: »

liam mchale could be the man though
made an immediate impact with clare this year
has bigtime experience in football and basketball

Clare did nothing this year.

rn

Surely in a county the size of Galway, with two universities and 43 football clubs, dozens of secondary schools (including a few that play top tier schools football) and Minor All-Ireland champions of 2007 there exists a few candidates that can manage the Galway senior team instead of the management merry-go-round candidates being tauted here.

No doubt about it who ever gets it has a serious job to do and will need strong political back up from the county board, because there are unpopular decisions surrounding star players that will have to be taken in the next 12-24 months, just to transition the team for the next 3-4 years.

aidan24326

conno16 wrote: »

liam mchale could be the man though
made an immediate impact with clare this year
has bigtime experience in football and basketball

You're surely having a laugh. What 'immediate impact' did he make with Clare?


Whoever gets the job this time around will have a hell of a task on their hands. We're in danger of becoming a total also-ran, of going back to the bleak days of the early 90s when we couldn't win a game. The new man needs to start with a blank slate. In a rebuilding situation that's the only thing you can do. No-one, and I mean no-one should be guaranteed anything in terms of selection, and reputations should count for nothing.

Too many of these players have failed to deliver time and time again, and as far as midfield goes we really need to start all over again there. Bergin has been a huge flop as far as I'm concerned, he just doesn't do it for Galway anymore (did he ever?) and I'd be tempted to get rid of him altogether. Leave Cullinane where he is too as he simply doesn't have the ability for county football.

Next year I'd like to see a few younger players thrown in. Even it means a couple of years of serious rebuilding to get back to a competitive level then so be it. Alan Mulholland would also be my choice. He did a good job with the minors and he'll know Galway football inside out. He'll also no doubt be keen to give a few of the younger lads a chance, and that's no harm. We need to build with a view to getting back into the top tier within 2-3 years. Right now we're well short of the top level.